NationStates Jolt Archive


Cancer Sufferer Demands Euthanasia Bill

The Black Emperor
26-01-2004, 18:32
I'm curious as to the effects. I can't tell whether Option 2 is suggesting more money towards healthcare or is simply against Option 1. Since it says we need cures, I'm thinking it might be for better healthcare, but I can't really tell.

The Issue

Dorothy Terwilliger lies immobilized in a hospital bed, unable to move. She has end-stage cancer, and wishes to end her struggle against death. However, laws prevent her doctors from obeying her wishes.

The Debate

1. Dorothy and her family are campaigning for a "Dying with Dignity" bill, to change this situation. She implores the government to legalize euthanasia.
[Accept]
2. "I understand this is a very difficult time for these people," says freelance medical writer Roxanne Li. "But the solution is not to let our medical system slide down the slippery slope of killing people in pain. We must cure, not kill. This is not the right time for euthanasia."
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3. "I agree, but go further: there is never a right time for euthanasia," says Bishop Johan Jefferson. "The lives we lead are given to us by the grace of God, and he decides when they end. It is not for us to question God's divine purpose, no matter how odd or screwed-up it may seem."
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Emperor Matthuis
26-01-2004, 22:42
I'm curious as to the effects. I can't tell whether Option 2 is suggesting more money towards healthcare or is simply against Option 1. Since it says we need cures, I'm thinking it might be for better healthcare, but I can't really tell.

The Issue

Dorothy Terwilliger lies immobilized in a hospital bed, unable to move. She has end-stage cancer, and wishes to end her struggle against death. However, laws prevent her doctors from obeying her wishes.

The Debate

1. Dorothy and her family are campaigning for a "Dying with Dignity" bill, to change this situation. She implores the government to legalize euthanasia.
[Accept]
2. "I understand this is a very difficult time for these people," says freelance medical writer Roxanne Li. "But the solution is not to let our medical system slide down the slippery slope of killing people in pain. We must cure, not kill. This is not the right time for euthanasia."
[Accept]
3. "I agree, but go further: there is never a right time for euthanasia," says Bishop Johan Jefferson. "The lives we lead are given to us by the grace of God, and he decides when they end. It is not for us to question God's divine purpose, no matter how odd or screwed-up it may seem."
[Accept]


1 increases civil rights and the others lower them, simple :)
Emperor Matthuis
26-01-2004, 22:43
I'm curious as to the effects. I can't tell whether Option 2 is suggesting more money towards healthcare or is simply against Option 1. Since it says we need cures, I'm thinking it might be for better healthcare, but I can't really tell.

The Issue

Dorothy Terwilliger lies immobilized in a hospital bed, unable to move. She has end-stage cancer, and wishes to end her struggle against death. However, laws prevent her doctors from obeying her wishes.

The Debate

1. Dorothy and her family are campaigning for a "Dying with Dignity" bill, to change this situation. She implores the government to legalize euthanasia.
[Accept]
2. "I understand this is a very difficult time for these people," says freelance medical writer Roxanne Li. "But the solution is not to let our medical system slide down the slippery slope of killing people in pain. We must cure, not kill. This is not the right time for euthanasia."
[Accept]
3. "I agree, but go further: there is never a right time for euthanasia," says Bishop Johan Jefferson. "The lives we lead are given to us by the grace of God, and he decides when they end. It is not for us to question God's divine purpose, no matter how odd or screwed-up it may seem."
[Accept]


1 increases civil rights and the others lower them, simple :)
Maximillianus
27-01-2004, 19:16
I got the same issue presented to me today, but I'm wondering about another thing. Why do I get this issue in the first place? Consider this:
The Debate
Dorothy and her family are campaigning for a "Dying with Dignity" bill, to change this situation. She implores the government to legalize euthanasia.
So, the issue is about legalizing euthanasia. I hope we all remember the big debate about the very same subject at the UN. The proposal was accepted and every head of state got a telegram from the compliancy ministry that laws were being made to comply with this UN motion.

As I understand it, the UN motion made euthanasia legal in all member states. I'm a UN member, so I think that euthanasia is already legal in my country. Isn't this strange or am I missing the point here?
Frisbeeteria
28-01-2004, 04:55
Isn't this strange or am I missing the point here?
You're missing the point.

There are two ways to affect your nation's statistics: issues and the UN. You can dismiss issues and stay out of the UN, and pleasantly stagnate. Or you can pick one or both and experiment with changes to your nation. They are entirely separate methods.

Issues do a variety of things based on your choices. Read the stickys in this forum for details. The UN has an even more limited set of choices, as seen in this link (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_new_proposal). No matter what was written in all the flowery text, all the UN proposal did was one thing:
to improve worldwide human and civil rights.
The Euthanasia issue may do different things depending on your choices. It can certainly affect the text that describes your nation, which UN proposals cannot.

The game designers don't have any knowledge of what the UN will pass, so that's not factored into the system. All they count is the coded stats portion. The rest is role-play, and it's up to you to figure out how to make it make sense. Good luck. You'll need it.