NationStates Jolt Archive


Pro Democracy stance onthe site

22-12-2003, 13:49
Why is it that if you don't 100% support democracy within your nation site, the details automatically class your govenment as Corrut.

What about those who feel that democracy is coming toclose of mob rule. and fel that a monocracy with rules established for the best rather than want they want (10% tax for all and high education or 0% tax and education for those who can afford it ??)
The Most Glorious Hack
22-12-2003, 14:43
"Corrupt" is a descriptor given to all nations with extremely high or low degrees of political freedoms.
23-12-2003, 12:20
Yes but whyis it that if political freedom related to corruption areyou saying that countires with full democracy are not corrupt. lookat the variance from USA/UK/EU to say Columbia all have" political freedom but all have (had) governemtal corruption of varing degrees - Monaco a monacy (dictaorship of sorts) hasnotbeen rocked by corruptions.

Thus if you take the rulling out of the hands of the politariate doesnot make you Hitler, Idi Amin , pol pot or a Napolean.
23-12-2003, 14:55
monaco is a tiny enclave of formula one drivers and eurotrash
it only exsists becasue the french let it.
Democracy works period :D
as winston churchill said democracy is the worst system until its compared with all the rest. :lol:
23-12-2003, 14:55
monaco is a tiny enclave of formula one drivers and eurotrash
it only exsists becasue the french let it.
Democracy works period :D
as winston churchill said democracy is the worst system until its compared with all the rest. :lol:
24-12-2003, 13:37
I take it you never read or seen the film Harrison Bergeron.

Churchill said many things some right some not.

Democracy only works if the mob allows it, the first democracy was Athens which also is the first communist state = communist (true not marx /stalin ormodern) is one mand one vote for the benfit for all.

To turn and slag Monnacco of (twice) because its nobility is descended from French Pirates is missining why it is used as an example.
To say democracy equals just and uncorrupt and a monocracy is corrupt and unfair shows an ignorance of the poroser / support bordering of Osterich syndrome.
The Most Glorious Hack
24-12-2003, 15:48
Yes but whyis it that if political freedom related to corruption areyou saying that countires with full democracy are not corrupt. lookat the variance from USA/UK/EU to say Columbia all have" political freedom but all have (had) governemtal corruption of varing degrees - Monaco a monacy (dictaorship of sorts) hasnotbeen rocked by corruptions.

Thus if you take the rulling out of the hands of the politariate doesnot make you Hitler, Idi Amin , pol pot or a Napolean.

You aren't listening.


Political Freedoms: Corrupted (highest possible ranking)

The medium-sized, corrupt, liberal, pro-business government appears to have no policy direction whatsoever. Citizens pay a flat income tax of 3%. A substantial private sector is led by the Gambling industry, followed by Cheese Exports and Trout Farming.

The recent UN ranking of "Most Politically Free Nations" listed Drop of Honey as #1 in the world.

Likewise, Zombi-men, which ranked very poorly (in the 90,000's) on that same survey, is a Psychotic Dictatorship:


Political Freedoms: Outlawed (lowest possible ranking)

The medium-sized, corrupt, moralistic, socially-minded government appears to have no policy direction whatsoever. The average income tax rate is 23%, but much higher for the wealthy. A small private sector is led by the Information Technology industry, followed by Beef-Based Agriculture and Arms Manufacturing.

See? Nations at the polar ends of the spectrum are listed as corrupt, be they democracies or dictatorships.

Go ahead and look at those two countries for yourself. They're both mine, and I don't answer issues with them. Then only thing that will change is their populations, and maybe their region. Their stats will remain the same. After you do that, go look at random nations, and see if they're listed as corrupt or now. My main nation (PF: "Excellent") isn't listed as corrupt, and my "Iron Fist Socialists" (PF: "Few") isn't listed as corrupt either. Also notice the ranking given to the highest possible ranking for both Political Freedoms and Civil Rights: "Corrupted". To claim that only dictatorships are corrupt because of some evil mechanitions of Max Barry, or a subversive libel campaign is just silly. There's no bias here.

And even if there was, who cares? It's a game, not a reflection of the real world.