NationStates Jolt Archive


Prostitution

16-12-2003, 18:43
:D

I've read through the list of issues, but I do NOT see one regarding the oldest profession. Legalization, crackdown, heavier punishments for johns, pimps, etc.

thoughts, comments? You know you want to draw tourism. 8)
Emperor Matthuis
16-12-2003, 19:19
well there isn't one and are you going to make one?
16-12-2003, 19:37
Could use some help working out the exact consquences for each option.

Title: "Oldest profession" soon to be legal in @@NAME@@??!

Those cantankerous lawmakers who wrote the law banning prostitution in @@NAME@@ back in the year 1904 had an expiration date on the law one hundred years after it was written. Debate is rising in @@NAME@@ as the deadline looms ever closer.


[option]The president of the Neighborhood Improvement Matronly Bunch for Youth (NIMBY's) @@RANDOMNAME@@ says, "Won't someone think of the children?! What kind of example is it to have a whore on the street corner in plain view of children? Just because I let my daughter dress like a whore doesn't mean it should be legal for her to be one!"

Results - minor changes, slightly reduced civil freedoms.

[option]The mayor of New Whorelans advocate @@RANDOMNAME@@ says, "This issue is that should be addressed by local towns and cities! If one community finds "sidewalk entertainment centers" objectionable, fine! Let them outlaw them in their community, but let us in more progressive parts to have the freedom to enjoy our fun. (and book some killer bachelor parties!)

Results - health goes down significantly, crime goes up, tourism grows heavily, economy improves, improvement in political freedoms, civil rights.

[option]The Head Sister of the Convent of Our Lady of Perpetual Sorrow, says "Not only should it be illegal, all those caught soliciting a 'woman of ill reputation' should publicly have their hands slapped with rulers and be listed as sexual offenders! We must fight the demand for the dirty deeds as well as the supply!"

results: Crime goes down, political freedom down, health goes up, civil rights goes down.

[option]Huge Huffer, head of the men's magazine *Cathouse*, says "Modern women are so difficult to figure out. Why not allow men to satisfy their needs? This could be a great financial boon to the tax coffers and public health. Why not legalize "compensated companionship", police it for health codes, and tax it!"

results: Government grows, police grows, health increases slightly, economy up two levels, civil rights up, crime up slightly
16-12-2003, 19:40
:D
There is something on this game worth talking about. I for one would like to support anyone who wants to support the leaglization of pimpin and prostitution. This is damn sure a better subject than the stupid hippo issue.
16-12-2003, 20:58
for option 2, political freedoms should go up, and the remainder no effected at all.

for option 4, the police should grow slightly, and the economy improve but not by two levels.
Emperor Matthuis
16-12-2003, 23:15
Emperor Matthuis
16-12-2003, 23:18
Emperor Matthuis
16-12-2003, 23:29
good issue :D are you going to send it in i would!!! :wink:
Emperor Matthuis
16-12-2003, 23:29
good issue :D are you going to send it in i would!!! :wink:
Sino
17-12-2003, 00:44
How about adding an option for the shooting of the offenders (prostitutes and customers)?
Sino
17-12-2003, 00:47
:D
There is something on this game worth talking about. I for one would like to support anyone who wants to support the leaglization of pimpin and prostitution. This is damn sure a better subject than the stupid hippo issue.

"Only a cheap pimp from some New Orleans whorehouse would carry a pearl-handled revolver!"

- U.S. Army Gen. Patton
Kinky bunnies
17-12-2003, 06:18
Actually, I've sent in an issue regarding prostitution about 1-2 month ago, still heard nothing of it.

and I've also come to the attention that others before might have sent similar issues even before me as well, but maybe due to the amount of issues being submitted it just hasn't gone through yet.

So I suppose it never hurts to try some more, if mine is still in the backlog, maybe the one I wrote was either lost or...(not good enough) :cry:
17-12-2003, 08:53
Could use some help working out the exact consquences for each option.

Title: "Oldest profession" soon to be legal in @@NAME@@??!

Those cantankerous lawmakers who wrote the law banning prostitution in @@NAME@@ back in the year 1904 had an expiration date on the law one hundred years after it was written. Debate is rising in @@NAME@@ as the deadline looms ever closer.
Frankly, if I saw an issue with this lead-in, I'd dismiss it unread. It makes way too many assumptions. It assumes my country:
1) uses the CE dating system
2) had no bans on prostitution before 1904
3) allows and uses laws with an "expiration date"
4) anyone who'd ban prostitution would put an "expiration date" on such a law
You should, IMO, rewrite this part to remove such assumptions.
It also assumes prostitution is illegal in my country, but correcting for that would require fiddling with the "Validity" section

[option]The president of the Neighborhood Improvement Matronly Bunch for Youth (NIMBY's) @@RANDOMNAME@@ says, "Won't someone think of the children?! What kind of example is it to have a whore on the street corner in plain view of children? Just because I let my daughter dress like a whore doesn't mean it should be legal for her to be one!"
Results - minor changes, slightly reduced civil freedoms.
Should be increases in police costs, and hence in taxes, as well.

[option]The mayor of New Whorelans advocate @@RANDOMNAME@@ says, "This issue is that should be addressed by local towns and cities! If one community finds "sidewalk entertainment centers" objectionable, fine! Let them outlaw them in their community, but let us in more progressive parts to have the freedom to enjoy our fun. (and book some killer bachelor parties!)

Results - health goes down significantly, crime goes up, tourism grows heavily, economy improves, improvement in political freedoms, civil rights.
Um, the mayor's "advocate"? Who/what is that? Also, internal quotes should take only a single quotemark ('), not a double. And get rid of the "is that".

[option]The Head Sister of the Convent of Our Lady of Perpetual Sorrow, says "Not only should it be illegal, all those caught soliciting a 'woman of ill reputation' should publicly have their hands slapped with rulers and be listed as sexual offenders! We must fight the demand for the dirty deeds as well as the supply!"
results: Crime goes down, political freedom down, health goes up, civil rights goes down.

[option]Huge Huffer, head of the men's magazine *Cathouse*, says "Modern women are so difficult to figure out. Why not allow men to satisfy their needs? This could be a great financial boon to the tax coffers and public health. Why not legalize "compensated companionship", police it for health codes, and tax it!"

results: Government grows, police grows, health increases slightly, economy up two levels, civil rights up, crime up slightly

Crime will not necessarily rise if prostitution is legalized. Indeed, The Netherlands had the opposite happen. Also, with prostitutes free to use medical resources without risking being turned over to the cops for admitting their source of income, they are less likely to have and transmit diseases, so health will improve. In fact, if they are regulated and made to go to medics, health will definitely improve.

Which brings up the point that the second and fourth options need to make something clear---are both, or only the fourth, saying that prostitutes will be regulated regarding health inspections and similar?
17-12-2003, 10:42
Another option should be:

@@NAME@@, President of the Pimps Association, said, "My employees (prostitutes) get hassled all the time, many murdered and it makes prostitution a risk profession! Prostitutes have rights as workers too, so we should declare red-light districts where they can do their work legally, and also have some legal public rooms on the street for the work to be done in. That way, nothing is seen and everyone is happy!"

Effect: crime stays normal, increased civil and political freedoms, higher economy
17-12-2003, 22:34
I'm with Iso! There's definitely a high risk involved due to the morals impressed on many that reflect in their treatment of prostitutes and others in similar lines of work(strippers, etc.). But if it's legal, people can't argue about it (much). There'll always be the old-fashioned people that are 'shocked and appalled' that such activity takes place, and couldn't care less whether it's legal, that will stir up the moralists to rebel, but there's not much we can do about that. Also, if prostitution is legal, the prostitutes don't have to shy away from their work in public, or be downtrodden by society.