NationStates Jolt Archive


Changes to existing issues

Demo-Bobylon
08-12-2003, 18:09
Do we do them? If so, I think the Economic Collapse Looms! issue should be changed. I won't say how until I know that we're allowed to edit issues once they've been accepted.
The Basenji
08-12-2003, 18:12
If you make vaild points on how an issue should be edited or changed, then it probably will be.

Go for it.
Underaloz
08-12-2003, 19:09
Fact is lots of issues need some more options. Having only two (usually drastic) choices on some of them leads almost invariably to a dismissal.
Thirstov
08-12-2003, 22:07
Fact is lots of issues need some more options. Having only two (usually drastic) choices on some of them leads almost invariably to a dismissal.

I agree
Hata-alla
09-12-2003, 18:24
definetly
Demo-Bobylon
09-12-2003, 20:07
Right:

The issue currently has two options -
1. Remove tariffs to increase economy
2. Outlaw capitalism for sake of environment.

The trouble is, I think, that the author (Max Barry, I think, sorry) groups environmentalists and communists together. I fit in both groups, but if you look at the environmental damage done by the USSR, you'll see a different picture. Also, communism is supposed to be more efficient than capitalism, because it effectively cuts out the middle man. The revised issue would be:
1. Lower tariffs (economy improves, environment gets worse)
2. Outlaw capitalism (economy improves, environment gets worse, equality improves, gov size increases or something)
3. Protect environment (environment improves, economy implodes)

Thoughts? Edits?
Hydronia
09-12-2003, 20:23
I think the issue that really needs a more "mainstream" option is the 'gunman kills three' issue.
Myrth
09-12-2003, 20:23
Fact is lots of issues need some more options. Having only two (usually drastic) choices on some of them leads almost invariably to a dismissal.

This is often the point.
You have to choose between two extremes.
Demo-Bobylon
09-12-2003, 20:26
I'm saying that they're the wrong extremes.
Myrth
09-12-2003, 20:31
This tarring people with the same brush is evident throughout NationStates.
Not every communist is a fanatical environmentalist, but not every christian is a fanatical techno-phobe either.
Underaloz
10-12-2003, 15:19
This is often the point.
You have to choose between two extremes.
Yes, I got the idea behind issues. However, I doubt there are only two extreme choices for a given issue. It sounds wrong to me. Beside, one may end up with an entirely erratic policy when trying to balance a given variable. As it is now, few of my stats change since I dismiss 3/4 of the issues. I should point out that custom ones are the ones I dismiss the most since they are nearly all lacking proper argumentation. Dismissal is the ultimate balanced choice but it doesn't mean you cannot explore enough extreme solutions to content most ideologies.
22-12-2003, 03:35
I think the issue that really needs a more "mainstream" option is the 'gunman kills three' issue.
I agree. I had to dismiss the thing. It needs an option that gives the freedom to bear arms... it could increase civil freedom and maybe some crime... But that's just me.

Also, I have a comment on an issue I just got...

Electronic Plague in KaneDragon!
Options:
1)Make kids get a license to use computers.
2)Release Skynet ( :lol: ).
3)Ban computers.

What, no option that increases free speech and virus attacks? :cry:
And as a side note, what benefit do you get from releasing Skynet? Does having your government replaced by really cool robots of death improve your economy (I mean, think of the efficency! :P ) while decreasing all your other freedoms? If that's the case... Or maybe it does jack. And don't you think the title "infamous technophobe" is a little biased for the third option. :wink:

Go economy!
The Basenji
22-12-2003, 03:41
Gravedigging is not allowed. Don't do it again.

Mods- uLock

~Bas the Evil Non-Moderator
22-12-2003, 03:46
:?:
Qaaolchoura
22-12-2003, 03:47
Gravedigging is not allowed. Don't do it again.

Mods- uLock

~Bas the Evil Non-Moderator
Bas, a week and a half ain't not no gravediggin'.

I think that the mods said that the very minimum for gravedigging is two weeks.
Unfree People
22-12-2003, 03:48
He means digging through old topics and bumping them to the top of the list again by posting. And while this topic wasn't -that- old, no, it isn't allowed. Sorry...
Kinky bunnies
22-12-2003, 03:50
digging up a "dead" topic from ages past(july) is "grave-digging", it's like revisiting your grandma's worm-infested corpse 10 yrs after the old bag has been put into the ground, so to speak... :wink:

EDIT:
gah!!! beaten by another post, how embarassing... :evil:
Qaaolchoura
22-12-2003, 03:51
Do we do them? If so, I think the Economic Collapse Looms! issue should be changed. I won't say how until I know that we're allowed to edit issues once they've been accepted.
I realize that the question at hand has not really been answered, and since it as been bumped. . .

They can be and are, there is a sticky for typos in the Got Issues? forum that Salusa said suggested revisions for issues go in.

Although I'm not sure if that is still the case.
Unfree People
22-12-2003, 03:53
gah!!! beaten by another post, how embarassing... :evil: :lol: your answer was better anyway.

And as far as I know we are still reporting and fixing typos... I know I've seen at least one new issue in the system in the recent week, and I think it had a typo (not that I saved it).
22-12-2003, 04:00
:( :evil: :( :oops: :(

I didn't look at the dates... And I wasn't trying to bump up a topic, I had a legitimate comment about the issues and didn't want to create a whole new topic for my own little concern if there was already a thread on the topic. So I skimmed through the first few pages before I posted. "Gravedigging not allowed, don't do it again"? Geez, why don't you lock everything that falls off the first page?

And the issue of revising posts has not expired. =/

And could someone please answer my question about Skynet? :cry:
The Basenji
22-12-2003, 04:01
Gravedigging is not allowed. Don't do it again.

Mods- uLock

~Bas the Evil Non-Moderator
Bas, a week and a half ain't not no gravediggin'.

I think that the mods said that the very minimum for gravedigging is two weeks.

Your gonna catch me on a few days? It would be one thing if he had something *useful* to add to the thread, but look at what he posted. An idea for a new issue. What does this have to do with this thread?
The Basenji
22-12-2003, 04:04
:( :evil: :( :oops: :(

I didn't look at the dates... And I wasn't trying to bump up a topic, I had a legitimate comment about the issues and didn't want to create a whole new topic for my own little concern if there was already a thread on the topic. So I skimmed through the first few pages before I posted. "Gravedigging not allowed, don't do it again"? Geez, why don't you lock everything that falls off the first page?


And could someone please answer my question about Skynet? :cry:

It would have been better to start a new topic. I apologize for being so stiff with you.
22-12-2003, 04:09
It would be one thing if he had something *useful* to add to the thread, but look at what he posted.

It was useful to meeee... :cry:

An idea for a new issue. What does this have to do with this thread?
Well, the thread was called "Changes to Existing Issues," so I thought... Wait, did you think I was posting an idea for a new issue? I was talking about an issue I had just recieved (runs back and edits original post just in case). The name of the AI was something else, but I called it Skynet for fun.