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An issue for all you Army fans

Bretton
04-12-2003, 09:22
Oi, all. After thoroughly badgering plenty of other people for their issues, some good, others ludicrous, I figured I'd toss one of my own on the table.

I believe there are plenty of options already in the game that bolster your country's "economic agenda" of sorts (e.g. Commerce, Law and Order, etc). However, I've been noting a staunch lack of ones promoting greater military power, and from what the U.N.'s been doing lately, anyone who might want to keep their defense forces up would likely appreciate this. In any case, check it out.

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Issue #??: Walking tanks: Not just for Sci-Fi films anymore?

Description: Recent advances in high-end robotics and gyroscopic stabilization has caught the eyes of some forward commanders in @@NAME@@'s Army, who are now arguing for a high-performance "Multi-Legged Tank" to begin supplementing and replacing traditional heavy ground vehicles.

Validity: Obviously, this issue isn't valid for nations who don't have Defence as one of their top priorities.

The Debate:

[option] "One must consider that tracked armored vehicles have been in use by @@NAME@@'s Army since its founding," proposes Major @@RANDOMNAME@@, a frontline tank commander. "By bolstering our ground forces with these Multi-Legged Tanks, we can easily overcome any terrain hazards, not to mention providing a better weapons platform for even larger caliber guns. They will be costly, but we will be the envy of every other military in @@REGION@@ for certain!"
[effect] New building-sized Multi-Legged Tanks mounting enormous artillery have recently arrived in the Army's frontline forces.
[stats] Economy drops slightly, Defence is pushed up on national priorities.

[option] "This is preposterous!" Army Supreme Commander @@RANDOMNAME@@ exclaims upon hearing earlier developments. "As we advance technologically, we get even further away from the honor and chivalry of 'the good times' when I first joined @@NAME@@'s army. These new legged tanks are a disgrace on our great Army's pride and dignity! Furthermore, I want those insolent dogs on the frontlines court-martialed at once for even suggesting such ludicrousness!"
[effect] Honor and chivalry in combat is still taught in military academies nation-wide.
[stats] Defence declines slightly, Education rises a little (the other army isn't going to wait for your troops to line up and fire, but it does promote good morales and such in military-age people)

[option] "As though our Defence forces don't get their fair share of government funding, now they're asking for more funds for essentially untested combat weaponry?" A top economist in your cabinet, @@RANDOMNAME@@ states. "I think it's high time those right-wing warhawks start having to deal with budget cuts just like the rest of our government does."
[effect] Army top brass continue to protest renewed cuts in funding
[stats] Defence has a moderate decline, Economy rises a notch

I'm considering sticking one of those archetypal extreme left-wing "NO MORE BOMBS" issues at the bottom, but I find it all rather droll at this point. Besides, if your nation is getting this issue in the first place, you're supposed to be _Pro-Military_ as far as most things are concerned. Anyway, have at it.

BTW, if you all were wondering, I was thinking of using the idea behind the giant robot vehicle from Appleseed, if you've ever seen that fine anime movie.
Akhtendum
05-12-2003, 09:49
Like it, like it 8)
The Most Glorious Hack
05-12-2003, 10:07
Nicely worded and well thought out. I likes it.
Bretton
05-12-2003, 21:08
W00t. Allrighty, if no-one else has any further comments by, say, the end of the weekend, I'll dump it in the moderators' ever-growing pile of submitted issues. Maybe it'll get to the surface, eventually. YAY!
Naleth
05-12-2003, 21:40
W00t. Allrighty, if no-one else has any further comments by, say, the end of the weekend, I'll dump it in the moderators' ever-growing pile of submitted issues. Maybe it'll get to the surface, eventually. YAY!
I'd think a thumbs-up from one of the mods would be good enough to do it right now ... I like it, btw.

Maybe also put in a validation about the IT industry (it would take some pretty decent technology to make those tihngs)
Xaqon
06-12-2003, 02:01
Ohh, very nice... *has happy thoughts of giant mechs stomping around, crushing everything in their path*
Bretton
06-12-2003, 06:40
I'd think a thumbs-up from one of the mods would be good enough to do it right now ... I like it, btw.

Maybe also put in a validation about the IT industry (it would take some pretty decent technology to make those tihngs)

Yeah, come to think of it, that would make some sense... okay, I'll toss in a requirement for that as well such that you have to at least spent some marginal poking around in the technology sector (e.g. space programs and computer networks and such).

BTW, just incase you were all curious, I thought I'd put in a link to a pair of images of the tank I was thinking of when I made this issue. I'm linking to my own image server; it's clean and all.

http://malikcarr.250free.com/Tank2.JPG

http://malikcarr.250free.com/Tank.JPG

Oh, and if there's any questions in regards to my design, NO, they are not robot-controlled; we wouldn't want to give AI weapons, now would we?
Bretton
07-12-2003, 00:18
Okay, after much deliberation (but not really), I've decided to throw this onto the pile of issues.


...eh, pardon me for sounding like something of a newb, but how do I go about doing that, anyway? PM it to them? I haven't really checked all the stickied posts in many of the forums, so I'm kinda clueless.
Sirocco
07-12-2003, 00:37
I like it... go for it! :)
Xaqon
07-12-2003, 00:43
To submit issues, just go back to your nation's page, and click the link labeled "issues". That should being you to the issues page where, on the bottom, you'll find a link entitled "Want to contribute an Issue to NationStates? Do it here!" From that page you can then sumit your issue. Good luck on it getting past the mods!

*stares at the pics and drools* Mmmm, mass drstruction....
Letila
07-12-2003, 03:12
That's a crazy tank pic.

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Kanuckistan
07-12-2003, 10:28
For the love of (insert deity of choice or favorite flavor of ice cream here), NO!!!

Walkers(beyond the scale of infantry power armour) are inferrior combat platforms to tanks in almost every way, unless you're fighting a protracted war on Giant Stair World(tm). More complicated, more prove to damage and wear, more expensive to repair, more expensive to build, higher target profile, larger surface area to armour, slower, higher ground pressure.... I could go on.

You need to add a pro-military option for us tankers(or anyone with a lick of engineering sense). Or maybe something about powered armour.
Letila
07-12-2003, 20:05
5t4r5hip5 p\/\/n t4nk5!

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Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
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Bretton
07-12-2003, 22:06
Woo, thanks for the assist there. I thought it was something ridiculously simple like that..

Anyway, I've submitted it into the system. And now... the waiting.