NationStates Jolt Archive


@NAME@ is a female

29-11-2003, 00:02
"This raises an interesting issue," says Anne-Marie Washington, your brother. "And that is: why do we need elections, anyway? Seems to me it would be much simpler if you just decided what was right, and did it. Wouldn't that save everyone a lot of time?"

My suggestion: categorize the names in 2 stakes: female and male. Chose at random 1 from the whole list. Be it a female, change to ''sister'' or ''mother''. Be it a male, change to ''brother'' or ''father''.
29-11-2003, 02:22
Ha Ha, :lol:
good catch.
Myrth
29-11-2003, 02:25
This has been pointed out numerous times.
I made it clear in my codes for issues sticky that genders shouldn't be used in conjunction with the @@RANDOMNAME@@ function, but it still happens.
29-11-2003, 02:29
This gender harassments must be stopped. I say ban NS!
Steel Butterfly
29-11-2003, 02:54
This gender harassments must be stopped. I say ban NS!

Yeah...

But then...what if your brother's real name is Anne-Marie? I know a guy named Kelly. :P
29-11-2003, 03:44
And not only that:

Australia's former Opposition Leader is a man called Kim Beazley (actually, Kim Beazley jnr as his father who was also a politician had the same name).

Shane has been used as a female name on occasion - former swimming champion Shane Gould, for example.

Apparently there was a man connected with the Olympics somehow called Judy or a derivative thereof (my parents claim this one's true, but I'm not certain).

The late entertainer/musician/TV show host Shirley Strahan was a man (although Shirly might have been a nickname, it has been used as a male first name in the past).

And we can't forget "A Boy Named Sue", now can we?
29-11-2003, 06:36
I'd suggest the following system (although I'm not sure how difficult it'd be to implement):


Extend the functionality of the macros to accept arguments (for example: @@RANDOMNAME(X)@@ or @@RANDOMNAME(f)@@). Use the case of the first character to determine whether the argument is a variable (upper case) or a constant value (lower case). The argument could represent any predefined characteristic of the macro - in this case gender. So @@RANDOMNAME(m)@@ would always be replaced by a male name, @@RANDOMNAME(f)@@ would always be replaced by a female name, and @@RANDOMNAME(X)@@ could be replaced by either (actually, it'd depend on where else X was used - keep reading). It could also be possible to set this up so that some arguments represent the name itself, but that would be more complicated and I won't explain it at this point.

Add macros to represent gender-specific nouns (e.g. @@SIBLING@@, @@PARENT@@, @@RELATIVE@@). These would also accept arguments (@@PARENT(m)@@ would always be "father", for example). If several macros use the same variable, the value of this variable must be consistent between them (e.g. "says @@RANDOMNAME(X)@@, your @@SIBLING(X)@@ might be displayed as "says Anne-Marie Washington, your sister", but could not be displayed as "says Anne-Marie Washington, your brother", as that would require the value of X to differ between the macros).

This would allow the use of gender-specific nouns without the possibility of a contradictory name/noun combination, or forcing all random names to use the same gender in an instance of an issue. This system is very similar to aspects of the programming language Prolog (a rather unusual and interesting language), and would behave in a similar manner. I can attempt to explain it in more detail if anyone is interested (I doubt we'd see something like this implemented, or that it'd get a high priority, but it's still quite an interesting topic).

Edited to make the post more readable, and to correct some minor errors.
Ackbar
29-11-2003, 08:25
"This raises an interesting issue," says Anne-Marie Washington, your brother. "And that is: why do we need elections, anyway? Seems to me it would be much simpler if you just decided what was right, and did it. Wouldn't that save everyone a lot of time?"

My suggestion: categorize the names in 2 stakes: female and male. Chose at random 1 from the whole list. Be it a female, change to ''sister'' or ''mother''. Be it a male, change to ''brother'' or ''father''.

Don't make fun of my brother.











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Emperor Matthuis
29-11-2003, 15:11
I'd suggest the following system (although I'm not sure how difficult it'd be to implement):


Extend the functionality of the macros to accept arguments (for example: @@RANDOMNAME(X)@@ or @@RANDOMNAME(f)@@). Use the case of the first character to determine whether the argument is a variable (upper case) or a constant value (lower case). The argument could represent any predefined characteristic of the macro - in this case gender. So @@RANDOMNAME(m)@@ would always be replaced by a male name, @@RANDOMNAME(f)@@ would always be replaced by a female name, and @@RANDOMNAME(X)@@ could be replaced by either (actually, it'd depend on where else X was used - keep reading). It could also be possible to set this up so that some arguments represent the name itself, but that would be more complicated and I won't explain it at this point.

Add macros to represent gender-specific nouns (e.g. @@SIBLING@@, @@PARENT@@, @@RELATIVE@@). These would also accept arguments (@@PARENT(m)@@ would always be "father", for example). If several macros use the same variable, the value of this variable must be consistent between them (e.g. "says @@RANDOMNAME(X)@@, your @@SIBLING(X)@@ might be displayed as "says Anne-Marie Washington, your sister", but could not be displayed as "says Anne-Marie Washington, your brother", as that would require the value of X to differ between the macros).

This would allow the use of gender-specific nouns without the possibility of a contradictory name/noun combination, or forcing all random names to use the same gender in an instance of an issue. This system is very similar to aspects of the programming language Prolog (a rather unusual and interesting language), and would behave in a similar manner. I can attempt to explain it in more detail if anyone is interested (I doubt we'd see something like this implemented, or that it'd get a high priority, but it's still quite an interesting topic).

Edited to make the post more readable, and to correct some minor errors.
i like the idea of the @@RANDOMNAME@@(f) idea that would stop it but it makes things a LOT more complicated then they already are
United Hiigarans
29-11-2003, 15:52
"..In other news,the ruler of Trailers reportedly murdered his brother,one 'Anne-Marie',for being a transvestite and having an exceptionally odd name..The ruler insists that he/she/it drove him to murder he/she/it.He also blames he/she/it for this odd little thread and embarassing post.Now watchers of the Traileric empre,be enteretained by painfully slow replays of the bullets from the small BR-Mag6 entering Anne-MAries cranium,we hope you enjoy this gory little movie."

Fromt he back some guy says:"Markus,you're fired!"
SalusaSecondus
29-11-2003, 19:24
Yeah, we know about this, but it is very low on the to do list.
Spoffin
29-11-2003, 19:42
Yeah, we know about this, but it is very low on the to do list.
Aw, please don't do it. Its funnier this way.
29-11-2003, 19:50
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01-12-2003, 18:34
I totally agree also. My cousins name is Jack and she is a girl, and i heard many names also, I totally agree with what you say. :D