NationStates Jolt Archive


Further Discussion of Rampaging Kittens (and how to get it)

Rotting Cheese
17-11-2003, 21:59
So for the lever one, what are the effects of it?

I chose to make a profit off it, so I got:

there is now a private sector based on doomsday devices (Rotting Cheese has found easter eggs),

but what have other people gotten? Is there any other effect of this one? It is kinda scary compared to most. :shock:
Eeptopia
18-11-2003, 05:36
How exactly do you get this issue?
Qaaolchoura
18-11-2003, 05:44
How exactly do you get this issue?
Ve dont knov zet, vut ve are getting vere. :twisted: (ve hope)
Eeptopia
19-11-2003, 01:03
How exactly do you get this issue?
Ve dont knov zet, vut ve are getting vere. :twisted: (ve hope)

Awesome. I like the German accent.
Goobergunchia
19-11-2003, 01:24
How exactly do you get this issue?
Ve dont knov zet, vut ve are getting vere. :twisted: (ve hope)

Awesome. I like the German accent.

<---- vunders vether Qaa stole it from [violet]
Unfree People
19-11-2003, 04:25
Ve dont knov zet, vut ve are getting vere. :twisted: (ve hope)
And the first one is in the system . . . an no, creating puppets won't help unless you are really patient.
I have some pretty large puppets, so it must be UN membership that is a factor (My largest one, Nokhcheav is one day and like 4 million less than Qaaolchoura itself)

My guess is one of the settings is your custom title (hence the patient part). Everyone who posted stating they got the issue - except Eagleland - has the word "holy" in their pre-title. (It might be worth it to investigate whether Eagleland really did get this issue, or a puppet of his. Alternatively, did he recently change his pre-title?)

Of course, this can't be the only requirement... there are thousands upon thousands of nations with "holy" in their titles...

<-- certainly doesn't wish to put "holy" in her pre-title

A bit more poking around in the world UN rankings list later... I found 14 total nations (only looked at both extremes of the list, so they all have large populations) whose spotlight says they found "easter eggs" ... every single one has "holy" in the pre-title. However, I'm not sure what custom titles have to do with it, as only 3 of these nations have a custom one ("holy empire" being available by default). Only 7 are UN members.
I need a life...
Rondebosch
19-11-2003, 06:17
I need a life...

Well, maybe, but you make those of us compiling lists of stats and variables and stuff feel a bit better.

I said "a bit".
Ballotonia
19-11-2003, 12:56
Perhaps the requirement for the easter egg is a combination of 'level of spirituatilty' stats and nation size.

Ballotonia
Frigben
19-11-2003, 13:22
I changed my nation's name to Holy Land For A Day or Two of Frigben, and I got the easter egg at the next update. :D
Unfree People
19-11-2003, 17:40
I changed my nation's name to Holy Land For A Day or Two of Frigben, and I got the easter egg at the next update. :D Sweeeet... OK, I'm going to give in and be the "Holy Councilate of Unfree People" (which is stupid, but I want issue!!)

I said "a bit". Heh... don't you love it how people will quote the small parts of other people's posts to expose it? heehee :twisted:

The fact still remains that there's many, many nations with "holy" in their title who haven't gotten it. Perhaps you have to be above a certain population number? Every one who was in my list I complied yesterday was over a billion. So are you, Frigben. But so I am :D
Ballotonia, you may have something there. I am unsure how to view the exact stats for spirituality, but the nation's descriptions all have words like "omnipresent," "devout," and/or "moralistic" in them. If this is the case, I'll never get it! I don't think I've ever once chosen an issue geared towards raising spirituality.
Rondebosch
19-11-2003, 19:32
Unfree People: I like your sense of humour. I declare you a new friend!
Feel free to protest

Meanwhile, The Pacifist Tao of Rondebosch is currently The Briefly Holy Land of Rondebosch, in the interest of receiving this issue. However, as I probably have a spiritual rating of 0 (not on purpose), I may never get it, as Ballotonia is probably right (since Ballotonia is always right, hey? :wink: )

At least I have the over 1 billion population thing going for me.

Comment to no one in particular: this Easter Egg idea is brilliant. Well done to whoever thought of it!

[Edit - I couldn't remember what I called myself. ROTFL!]
SalusaSecondus
19-11-2003, 19:55
Comment to no one in particular: this Easter Egg idea is brilliant. Well done to whoever thought of it!

Thank you. This particular issue was not written by me (just edited), but the idea of Easter Eggs in the game is my own. There should be more coming, just slowly as they are about the lowest priority.
Rondebosch
19-11-2003, 20:06
That is very cool! I can't wait. (I may never get one, but anyway...)

Are they open for gamer submissions? I think I may be better at writing surreal issues than I am at "normal" ones.
SalusaSecondus
19-11-2003, 20:12
Feel free to submit some (standard issue submission, just add "Easter Egg" to the title), but I am not sure if they will be added. There will probably be very few eggs and some of deep technical complexity. But, it is worth a try.
Rondebosch
19-11-2003, 20:22
Thanks. I will give it a shot. It will probably take me six months to think of something, now that I've put myself to the test, but expect it one day. Definitely!
Goobergunchia
19-11-2003, 21:31
In the interests of experimentation: I am now the Liberal Unitary Holy Land of Goobergunchia.
Naleth
19-11-2003, 21:55
I think that you also have to have a firghtening economy for this to come (or at least every one who I have seen say they got it had one). (it makes sense, just think about the third choice ;))> The puppet I set to a "Holy Kingdom" has a frightening economy, but only ~750M pop. Didn't get it last night, but maybe they aren't guarenteed when you meet the reqs (hopefully).
20-11-2003, 01:12
Unfree People: I like your sense of humour. I declare you a new friend!Aww, I have my first forum friend! Yay! Feel free to protest :lol: However, as I probably have a spiritual rating of 0 (not on purpose), I may never get it, as Ballotonia is probably right (since Ballotonia is always right, hey? :wink: ) OK, can you tell a non-n00b-yet-forum-n00b how to view these ratings and stats?



I think that you also have to have a firghtening economy for this to come. Bagutastan (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/nation=bagutastan), as you can tell in the Spotlight, has an "Imploded" economy, yet "has found Easter Eggs."

I honestly can't find anything else these nations have in common besides "holy" and pop size.
Qaaolchoura
20-11-2003, 01:22
<---- vunders vether Qaa stole it from [violet]
Ve saw eet on zee forumz, vut, ve had vorgotten vhere unteel now.

:twisted:
Qaaolchoura
20-11-2003, 01:37
My guess is one of the settings is your custom title (hence the patient part). Everyone who posted stating they got the issue - except Eagleland - has the word "holy" in their pre-title. (It might be worth it to investigate whether Eagleland really did get this issue, or a puppet of his. Alternatively, did he recently change his pre-title?)

Of course, this can't be the only requirement... there are thousands upon thousands of nations with "holy" in their titles...

<-- certainly doesn't wish to put "holy" in her pre-title

A bit more poking around in the world UN rankings list later... I found 14 total nations (only looked at both extremes of the list, so they all have large populations) whose spotlight says they found "easter eggs" ... every single one has "holy" in the pre-title. However, I'm not sure what custom titles have to do with it, as only 3 of these nations have a custom one ("holy empire" being available by default). Only 7 are UN members.
I need a life...
Luckily I have one very large nation whic I have absolutely no use for, and one which I will not need until around Thanksgiving, so I added "Holy" into their custom titles. Now to answer their issues in order to amke room for new ones.

Not to mention that I have several "puppet farms", that is to say, regions full of puppets meant to simulate real places on earth (execept that most of these places would not be left-wing utopias, scandanavian liberal paradises, liberal democratic socialist, and anarchies (The reason that I have anarchies is a long story)), that will beggining around late December begin giving me an endless supply (assuming that I keep creating these puppet farms) of customizable setting combinations (although I need some more of the other government types {although I think that I have at least one of every one except benevolant dictatorship}) .

Ve zhall zee. :P
Naleth
20-11-2003, 04:04
I have a benevolent dictatorship ;) I'm in the process of working on a Free-market Paradise and Tyranny by Majoriy (I like the rare UN categoried) ... The TBM went from Auth. Democracy to Conservative Democracy today (which are the two NEXT TO TBM :P .. gained Political and Bussiness freedoms with the "vote buying" issue) Thinking about starting a nation to get anarchy.
20-11-2003, 05:37
Crud! I posted under this puppet.

Sorry everyone! This is Unfree People, playing around with puppets :roll:
Unfree People
20-11-2003, 06:00
Sweet, guys. I am now the "Holy" Councilate of Unfree People, and lookie at my latest issue:

Easter Egg! - Should we pull the Lever? [unaddressed]


So, it looks like you have to be a billion + and have "holy" in the pretitle. Because I am athiest in real life, I can honestly say that in the eight months I've been here, I have never once chosen an issue that would raise my spirituality.

~Unfree People, who is no longer playing around with puppets
Naleth
20-11-2003, 06:06
Damn .. so, looks like I'm going to have to wait a while to get this issue as my largest nation will probably hit 750M tommorrow :cry:
Unfree People
20-11-2003, 06:24
*shrugs* I may be wrong. My findings are based on the nations who posted here, and the ones in the UN rankings with the indicator in their description. At first I assumed you had to have a custom title (500 mill +), but "Holy Empire" is available by default and the issue has come to several with that pre title.

If you get it, let me know. I honestly don't know where the pop line is. (Salusa did tell us all we needed a LOT of patience though ;))
Naleth
20-11-2003, 06:34
*hoping for 750M*
Rondebosch
20-11-2003, 11:48
Aww, I have my first forum friend! Yay!
Hello!

OK, can you tell a non-n00b-yet-forum-n00b how to view these ratings and stats?
I was making up an example. I have no idea how it works, sadly (I'm very curious to find out). For all I know, my spirituality rating is Epsilon. Or Uhura. Or Ivanova...

...I could run this joke forever, but I'm sure I'll ruin the friendship.

Anyway, I have had two issue updates since "Holyfying" myself (twice - I switched from Briefly Holy Land to Holy Empire), and no issue. Could just be bad luck...could be something else?

I have the population (possibly), my economy is imploded (sadly). Maybe I need an empty issue bank? (I have it on two a day, and usually answer one at a time (stats testing), so I tend to have four unanswered issues sitting in my queue at any one time.)

Anybody have any thoughts?
Frigben
20-11-2003, 12:06
I keep an empty issue bank, so that could be it.
Goobergunchia
20-11-2003, 16:03
Aww, I have my first forum friend! Yay!
Hello!

OK, can you tell a non-n00b-yet-forum-n00b how to view these ratings and stats?
I was making up an example. I have no idea how it works, sadly (I'm very curious to find out). For all I know, my spirituality rating is Epsilon. Or Uhura. Or Ivanova...

...I could run this joke forever, but I'm sure I'll ruin the friendship.

Anyway, I have had two issue updates since "Holyfying" myself (twice - I switched from Briefly Holy Land to Holy Empire), and no issue. Could just be bad luck...could be something else?

I have the population (possibly), my economy is imploded (sadly). Maybe I need an empty issue bank? (I have it on two a day, and usually answer one at a time (stats testing), so I tend to have four unanswered issues sitting in my queue at any one time.)

Anybody have any thoughts?

Ditto, except I usually keep an empty issue bank.
Rondebosch
20-11-2003, 16:12
I have emptied (on next update) my issue bank, so we'll see if it makes a difference.

Aaaahhhh, the mysteries of NationStates. It would be great if we could win a prize for figuring out the entire necessary configuration of the Easter Egg(s).

My vote's for this (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=95191).
Unfree People
20-11-2003, 19:19
I was making up an example. I have no idea how it works, sadly (I'm very curious to find out). For all I know, my spirituality rating is Epsilon. Or Uhura. Or Ivanova... OK, I hear people talking about stats all the time, and I thought they were viewing the stats that determine the UN rankings. ...I could run this joke forever, but I'm sure I'll ruin the friendship. lol, never ;) I have the population (possibly), my economy is imploded (sadly). Maybe I need an empty issue bank? You do have a smaller population than anyone else in my list, but I doubt the cut off would be something really random like 1.2 billion. There are several countries with "Imploded" economies, though.I keep an empty issue bank, so that could be it. I, too, keep an empty issue bank. Although I never would have thought of it, it's definitely possible.

I guess we'll see. And, there shouldn't be a difference between "Briefly Holy Land" and "Holy Empire" ...
I usually just keep region founders or UN delegates in my dossier, but the having notes thing would be really nice...
Qaaolchoura
21-11-2003, 03:58
I have a benevolent dictatorship ;) I'm in the process of working on a Free-market Paradise and Tyranny by Majoriy (I like the rare UN categoried) ... The TBM went from Auth. Democracy to Conservative Democracy today (which are the two NEXT TO TBM :P .. gained Political and Bussiness freedoms with the "vote buying" issue) Thinking about starting a nation to get anarchy.
I have a couple of Free Market Paradises and Tyrannny by Majorities, although I only have one Conservative Democracy (I can make more easily but never bother too, and can not seem to get the hang of making Iron Fist Socialists. (This is my only nation to ever have been Iron-Fist Socialist, and Igot out of there as quickly as I could, low PF, due to my barring of the death penalty and vote buying one too many times) .

I hope that having a billion pop is not a factor, since that will take forever to get my Qaaolchoura and my oldest puppets up there, let alone my puppet farms.
Goobergunchia
21-11-2003, 04:00
You ought to be 1B by January.

Furthermore, I've got 1B and I didn't get it as "The Liberal Unitary Holy Land of Goobergunchia."
Qaaolchoura
21-11-2003, 04:21
You ought to be 1B by January.

Furthermore, I've got 1B and I didn't get it as "The Liberal Unitary Holy Land of Goobergunchia."

Yes, but I won't be able to play with a billion pop nation over winter vacation. :( :P

How long were you on "Liberal Unitary Holy Land"?

I now have three largish puppets with holy in their titles: The Holy Bear republic of Alta Californian Coast (This is the only puppet that I created outside of my home {across the country in Nice, CA in fact}), THe Holy Region Hoppin Dragonfly of NationStates Dragonfly, and The Holy Slavic Federation of Moravian nationalism. So ve zhall zee. (vee 'ope)
Goobergunchia
21-11-2003, 04:36
You ought to be 1B by January.

Furthermore, I've got 1B and I didn't get it as "The Liberal Unitary Holy Land of Goobergunchia."

Yes, but I won't be able to play with a billion pop nation over winter vacation. :( :P

How long were you on "Liberal Unitary Holy Land"?

A day (two issues worth). Now why will you be off NS during winter break?
21-11-2003, 05:11
So wait, where does it show up that a nation has gotten the Easter Egg?
21-11-2003, 05:17
Never mind about that. I have made settings to include Holy and eventually get an empty issues box. I hope it doesn't have anything to do with economy...
Goobergunchia
21-11-2003, 05:21
:idea: The Holy Goobergunchian Puppet of -The Prophet- (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/nation=-the_prophet-)

My Authoritarian Democracy puppet (701 mil, Reasonable economy, once-a-day issues). Boo-yah!
Naleth
21-11-2003, 05:56
My benevolent dictatorship fell into libratarian police state yesterday :x

3 of my nations are one-off from what they SHOULD be :cry:

I also hae had "Holy" + empty issue bank for 2 days now and still no issue.
The Most Glorious Hack
21-11-2003, 06:58
This thread is fun :P
Rondebosch
21-11-2003, 08:34
This thread is fun :P

I'm sure you would think so :?


Meanwhile, still no issue for me. If you guys are manually handing out the issue, please stop torturing me! Please!
Naleth
21-11-2003, 09:59
This thread is fun :P
*Curses secret mod knowledge*
(not for the firt time, and certainly not for the last)
Rondebosch
21-11-2003, 10:19
...I could run this joke forever, but I'm sure I'll ruin the friendship. lol, never ;)
Good to know. :D


You do have a smaller population than anyone else in my list, but I doubt the cut off would be something really random like 1.2 billion. There are several countries with "Imploded" economies, though.
I think the cut-off point is probably something arb like 1.26 billion. I've had a couple of issue updates since adding the Holy bit, and still no Easter Egg issue. I'm currently at 1.177 billion, so I'll just have to wait, and hope that's it.

Otherwise I'd be tempted to give up, except I won't! Ha!

I wonder if it had nothing to do with the size of the issue bank, and now I've given them the idea for the next one. Curses!
Reploid Productions
21-11-2003, 10:25
*giggles evilly* I've got an issue I'm working on that could possibly be the next Easter Egg :twisted:
Rondebosch
21-11-2003, 10:33
So do I (expect it in a few days, and don't laugh at it)...not that I have any say in these matters.

You guys are having waaay too much fun.
Goobergunchia
21-11-2003, 14:30
:idea: The Holy Goobergunchian Puppet of -The Prophet- (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/nation=-the_prophet-)

My Authoritarian Democracy puppet (701 mil, Reasonable economy, once-a-day issues). Boo-yah!

Nope.
Demo-Bobylon
21-11-2003, 18:16
Stop writing in diddy print, please!
The Captain
21-11-2003, 19:16
Just to add my two cents:

Added "Holy" to my title yesterday, 1.697 billion pop, got the issue.

Corporate Police State, CR: Rare, E: Frightening, PF: Outlawed
Qaaolchoura
22-11-2003, 05:05
You ought to be 1B by January.

Furthermore, I've got 1B and I didn't get it as "The Liberal Unitary Holy Land of Goobergunchia."

Yes, but I won't be able to play with a billion pop nation over winter vacation. :( :P

How long were you on "Liberal Unitary Holy Land"?

A day (two issues worth). Now why will you be off NS during winter break?
Well I'll be in ME, part of the time, but winter vacation ends on January 2nd (for me at least)

Not a sign of that issue.

Bet it's 1.5 billion pop.

*glares at Hack, and at Rep in the other thread*

The GMs are evil sadistic politicians. :evil: :P :twisted:
( :wink: )
Unfree People
22-11-2003, 05:53
Otherwise I'd be tempted to give up, except I won't! Ha! Never give up! There is always hope :p



Not a sign of that issue.

Bet it's 1.5 billion pop. Nope, I've got 1.3 bill, and I got it. I am, however, the smallest of all the nations I've seen get the issue. They wouldn't make the cut off something stupid like 1.3 ... would they? :o

*whines at mods* just tell us *sniff*

Lol, just kidding, this is -somewhat- fun, trying to figure all of this out.
imported_Skepticism
22-11-2003, 12:37
Upon adding "holy" to the title, the USSS received this issue as the very next one :)
Falastur
22-11-2003, 18:41
Yeah, could someone please point out to me where it says on the spotlight how many easter eggs you've got? I've looked at a few, and cant see anywhere anything about them....thanks....
NuMetal
22-11-2003, 19:12
easter eggs are only fun when you know how to use them. :evil:
SalusaSecondus
22-11-2003, 19:29
It will report the number of easter eggs you have found (actually one fewer right now) whenever you have found an easter egg. In your nation's desciption will be (@@NAME@@ has found # Easter Eggs).
Falastur
22-11-2003, 19:40
OK, cos I was looking at some of the countries who had recieved these easter eggs, and I couldn't find that anywhere. Maybe I wasn't looking hard enough....

Thanks anyway, Salusa :)
Falastur
22-11-2003, 19:42
Oooooo, I see it now :D

Thanks....Just wait 'til I get one maybe....any chance you could say what the smallest size your populations gotta be to get one, Salusa??
SalusaSecondus
22-11-2003, 19:48
Oooooo, I see it now :D

Thanks....Just wait 'til I get one maybe....any chance you could say what the smallest size your populations gotta be to get one, Salusa??

Depends on the egg. Some may have a minimum, some may have a maximum, some may have both, and some may ignore population altogether.
Incorporated Aartrijke
22-11-2003, 20:09
Okay, so for this Easter egg, I guess it's:
-Holy in the name
-1.3+ billion people
-Economy Frightening (unconfirmed)
-Not being a religious country. This is a guess of mine. But it would make perfect sense for an easter egg: something that almost never appears ==> nations with "Holy" in the name that are totally not Holy.

My nation fits the entire description, and I got the issue.
Sehvekah
23-11-2003, 02:55
Unholy "Holy" nations getting it? That'd explain why I got it after temporaly changing my name to The Well-Armed Holy Asylum of Sehvekah. I stomp on religion every chace I get(my only other constant is to inceasantly support my millitary), have a frigentening economy and nearly 2 billion people in my nation.

I've done the tourisim option(I know, boring, but it'll support my economy, I hope).
Unfree People
23-11-2003, 03:18
-Economy Frightening (unconfirmed) Definitely not. Economy seems to have nothing to do with it. I've found at least one nation with an "Imploded" economy.
-Not being a religious country. This is a guess of mine. But it would make perfect sense for an easter egg: something that almost never appears ==> nations with "Holy" in the name that are totally not Holy. This (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/nation=leverandon) nation had easter eggs (it doesn't say so now, but that's because it's been several days and the indicator has dropped off the list), and the government's priority is "Religion & Spirituality". I stomp on religion too, though. I just finished appointing a spiritual advisor who will immediately resign :D

I'm still wondering about the population. Salusa's answer was (probably purposefully) vague and enigmatic. :P
The Most Glorious Hack
23-11-2003, 07:17
OK, cos I was looking at some of the countries who had recieved these easter eggs, and I couldn't find that anywhere. Maybe I wasn't looking hard enough....

Thanks anyway, Salusa :)

Much like any issue, the effects can get bumped off the spot light.
Falastur
23-11-2003, 09:52
OK, cos I was looking at some of the countries who had recieved these easter eggs, and I couldn't find that anywhere. Maybe I wasn't looking hard enough....

Thanks anyway, Salusa :)

Much like any issue, the effects can get bumped off the spot light.

Maybe the easter eggs thing could be seperate from the rest of the spotlight info? I was just thinking....put it below the main description of the but above the "Most recent activity", or around there? A bit like the UN Endorsements received....you could even list all the Easter Eggs you've got, maybe? I'm just pondering here - it would allow every country to see how many E Eggs someone's got, without being limited to seeing it the day after they find one. I'm just wondering.....
23-11-2003, 11:20
*changes 974 million non-religious nation to a holy something*
The Most Glorious Hack
23-11-2003, 11:47
Personally, I just took a puppet who qualified, and who no longer answered issues. That way it will never leave :P
Myrth
23-11-2003, 14:13
I've had the 'Should we pull the lever' one. Very strange. I pulled the bugger.
Aartrijke
23-11-2003, 15:11
I've had the 'Should we pull the lever' one. Very strange. I pulled the bugger.
Did you have 'holy' in your name at the time? Because now, you apparently don't :?
Unfree People
23-11-2003, 18:42
Personally, I just took a puppet who qualified, and who no longer answered issues. That way it will never leave :P Unfortunately, my next biggest puppet is 300 mill. It won't be getting the issue anytime soon :p. And I can't just not answer issues on this nation, I want to get to the top of UN Rankings.

Did you have 'holy' in your name at the time? Because now, you apparently don't :? Maybe she means one of her puppets. Because "holy" is pretty muchly confirmed.
Incorporated Aartrijke
23-11-2003, 19:07
He ;) Myrth is not a woman :lol:
Celestia
23-11-2003, 21:50
i have like 4 1bil + countries, 3 of which are nearing the 2 billion point line...

anyways...

im trying the holy thing on them all.

*note: each one of them are like atheist states..

if you wanna check them out

EmeriKa
I Love Jessica
and Prismatica(havn't changed yet.. might not...)
Celestia
24-11-2003, 02:13
Emerika @ 1.8+ bil recieved the easter eggs upon changing it to "the holy imperial state of" or something like that...
Rondebosch
24-11-2003, 08:58
My population is on 1.189 billion. Still no issue (not that I was expecting it, yet). In time I should be able to figure out almost the exact population amount, assuming I qualify for all the other requirements (we may still have missed something - who knows?...well, besides the all-seeing mods...)
The Most Glorious Hack
24-11-2003, 10:26
(we may still have missed something - who knows?...well, besides the all-seeing mods...)

:mrgreen:
Rondebosch
24-11-2003, 10:35
Stop the torture! C'mon!
24-11-2003, 13:40
Celestia here....

i forgot i had another nation in the billions... so ill try it on this one now.

going from "The Dominion of..." to "The Holy Imperial Colony of..." Kyzyl-Orda

pop: 1.72 billion

will post results upon update of issues.
The Cold Spring
25-11-2003, 04:21
The Holy Alsatian Fiefdom of The Cold Spring.

Anarchy

Pop. 1.25

Economy: Frightening

Have not received this issue yet. Further testing to be conducted.
----------------------------------------------

Also, is there a way to view the actual numbers that determine your rights/economy/freedom rankings? I thought the XML feed used to have this info, but I must have been mistaken.
25-11-2003, 06:37
Public announcement:
"The Temporarily Holy Kingdom of Wyrmberg (pop'n 1.48 bn) would like to announce that it has just recieved the "Should we pull the Lever?" easter-egg issue!

The government had no official comment to make, but a source close to the King (thought to be the Minister of n00b relations) had this to say:
"w00t on a frickin' stick, man! p|-|34R t3h /\/\4|> 34573R-3gg-f1|\||>1|\|' sk1llz!

Purely by coincidence, the aforementioned minister was asked to submit his resignation later that day.

In other news - lookit the cute wittle puppy-wuppie! Isn't it just the cutest? Don't you just want to hug it 'till it goes squish?
Who's a widdle cutie-wootie then? Who's a cutie? Huh? You! Yes you are! Oh, you's just the fwuffiest wittle fwuffikins I ever did see!

Now back to John in the studio...
(This heart-warming story bought to you by GoMutt(tm) petfood).
Unfree People
25-11-2003, 06:53
He ;) Myrth is not a woman :lol: Ah, my apologies. I guess I am in the habit of assuming everyone is the same sex as me ;)

(we may still have missed something - who knows?...well, besides the all-seeing mods...)

:mrgreen: Dammit, put us out of our misery already! :lol:
The Most Glorious Hack
25-11-2003, 07:44
(we may still have missed something - who knows?...well, besides the all-seeing mods...)

:mrgreen: Dammit, put us out of our misery already! :lol:

Okay.

http://www.jed.simonides.org/artillery/golf/g5_series/towed-version/g5_07.jpg

BOOM!
Rondebosch
25-11-2003, 08:14
You know, that's actually not funny (some people in the world are actually at war right now), but it still made me laugh. Briefly.
Qaaolchoura
25-11-2003, 09:30
Could it be that "holy" must be second?

The Temporarily Holy Bear Coast of Alta Californian Coast
The Temporarily Holy Dragonfly of NationStates Dragonfly
Slavic Holy Federation of Moravian nationalism

Could a nation with two above a billion and a quarter pop nations do the same?
Rondebosch
25-11-2003, 09:38
Didn't some "Holy Empire"s initially get the issue?
25-11-2003, 13:42
Yes, some holy empires did get it...

and who am i on? well.. this is Celestia...


anyways, Kyzyl-Orda recieved this issue as well.

"The Holy Imperial Colony of Kyzyl-Orda"
"The Holy Imperium of Celestia"
"The Holy Imperial State of EmeriKa"

have recieved the issue...
all owned by me

all above 1.7+ billion, with celestia and EmeriKa being around 1.9 billion(celestia soon to hit 2 billion =)

the below state:

"The Holy Republic of I Love Jessica"
of
hard-working population of 1.087 billion enjoy

has not however recieved the easter egg issue.

i hope my nations can help anyone who's trying to figure this out.
The Cold Spring
25-11-2003, 13:44
The Holy Alsatian Fiefdom of The Cold Spring.

Anarchy

Pop. 1.25

Economy: Frightening

Have not received this issue yet. Further testing to be conducted.
----------------------------------------------

Also, is there a way to view the actual numbers that determine your rights/economy/freedom rankings? I thought the XML feed used to have this info, but I must have been mistaken.

Update. Got it this morning. The only thing that changed was that I had an empty issue bank this time. Convinced me that it's a requirement.
25-11-2003, 18:06
no.. i do not believe an empty issue bank is required.. as i got it when i already had 1 for this nation...
Thestalker
25-11-2003, 22:44
This may have already been answered but for those of you who have discovered easter eggs -- how often do you receive issues? I've put a "Holy" in this nation's title and in another nation that I have that is about 1.4 billion and neither has discovered eggs, yet. I set my issues on "One every weekday." Both of my nations are Frightening in Economy.
Naleth
25-11-2003, 22:48
It could be that you passed the population requirment yesterday, cold spring. That'd make it 1.25Billion, yes?
The Cold Spring
26-11-2003, 00:03
It could be that you passed the population requirment yesterday, cold spring. That'd make it 1.25Billion, yes?

Could be, but doubtfull. If that's the case, it should have come last evening when I got my issue (I get two a day). Since I already had 1.25 when my evening issue came, and it wasn't the egg, I would tend to doubt it was my population.

This morning when I turned 1.257 I got the issue. (I don't remember what I was yesterday, 1.25[X])

Maybe it only comes with the morning issue delvery...?


I don't know. I give up.
Unfree People
26-11-2003, 18:52
This may have already been answered but for those of you who have discovered easter eggs -- how often do you receive issues? I get two per day. I don't -always- have an empty issue bank, but I did have an empty one when I got the issue.

Maybe it only comes with the morning issue delvery...? Nope, I got mine with the afternoon update. I changed my pre-title a few hours before the update.

I don't know. I give up. Never give up ;)

Perhaps, it's just random. Completely and totally random. :evil:
Rondebosch
27-11-2003, 08:45
Perhaps, it's just random. Completely and totally random. :evil:

Do not say that! You're dashing my last thinly clinging hopelette.

(PS: Pop currently on 1.206 billion - am hoping I was right about 1.26 billion, because that would be cool. Heh. I will let everyone know when I know...if I ever know...

PPS: I got my prize already! (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=95191))
HC Eredivisie
27-11-2003, 16:26
Heinekenbier, my puppet, received the issue.

pop. = 1.268 billion
UN cat. = Iron Fist Consumerists
Civil Rights = Unheard off
Economy = All consuming
Pol. Freedoms = Outlawed
isseus = 2/day
Name = The Drunken but Holy Dictator of Heinekenbier
imported_Blab
29-11-2003, 00:19
By George, I think I got it.

Here's the deal:

Holy in the title: The Briefly Holy Borderlands of Blab
Population in excess of 1.25 billion: 1.44 billion
Issue setting: two per day: I'd met the previous two requirements previously and failed to get the issue. When I changed the frequency of receiving issues--bingo--there it was. My issue box was not empty.

I got the end of the world lever. I pulled it.
Roania
29-11-2003, 02:55
I haven't gotten it yet.
Unfree People
29-11-2003, 05:16
I'd met the previous two requirements previously and failed to get the issue. When I changed the frequency of receiving issues--bingo--there it was. My issue box was not empty. Ha! I have mine on two per day as well. Brilliant, Blab. :D

Roania, you're not even 1 bill, much less 1.25 ... we've definitely established you've got to be over at least 1.2 billion.

In the interests of seeing whether you can get the same egg twice, I've changed my pre-title again to "Holy" Councilate. I changed it this morning and I didn't get it as my issue for the next update... so I think it's a one time thing only.
imported_Blab
29-11-2003, 07:16
I think population has to be over 1.25 billion because of the following posts by The Cold Spring.
The Holy Alsatian Fiefdom of The Cold Spring.

Anarchy

Pop. 1.25

Economy: Frightening

Have not received this issue yet. Further testing to be conducted.
and
It could be that you passed the population requirment yesterday, cold spring. That'd make it 1.25Billion, yes?

Could be, but doubtfull. If that's the case, it should have come last evening when I got my issue (I get two a day). Since I already had 1.25 when my evening issue came, and it wasn't the egg, I would tend to doubt it was my population.

This morning when I turned 1.257 I got the issue. (I don't remember what I was yesterday, 1.25[X])
Aartrijke
29-11-2003, 19:50
I have get 2 issues per day too and got the issue.
Ballotonia
30-11-2003, 01:28
I have 1.8 billion citizens, two issues per day, always have an 'empty' issue bank (meaning: one issue pending), and didn't get the issue before. I put 'holy' in my pretitle and voila: I received the issue immediately.

Different question... has anyone ever received the issue more than once?

Also: can I have the names of some nations who have had the issue AND where the effect is still visible in the nation text?

For now, I've opted to leave the easter egg issue undecided (waiting for the fixing of typos).

Ballotonia
Unfree People
30-11-2003, 03:24
In the interests of seeing whether you can get the same egg twice, I've changed my pre-title again to "Holy" Councilate. I changed it this morning and I didn't get it as my issue for the next update... so I think it's a one time thing only. Nope, I don't think so ;)


Well none of the ones I put in my dossier earlier still have it listed in the spotlight. You might try looking at nations who just recently posted here saying they got it.
30-11-2003, 15:37
New Auburn has it on the page right now, but it's the next one to get booted. We pulled the lever.
01-12-2003, 05:47
Brackla has it, it's still in the discription, but I'm only set to recieve one issue a day.
imported_Blab
01-12-2003, 20:41
I'm only set to recieve one issue a day.There goes my two-issue-a-day theory. Brackla, do you know what changed in your nation to trigger getting the issue?

Ballatonia, if you want to look, I still have it in my description.
Rose Lokia
02-12-2003, 04:28
I have it in my nation's description. (I'm on one issue a day, and had other issues in my inbox when I got the Easter egg.)
Kaskalherria
03-12-2003, 14:20
(I'm on one issue a day, and had other issues in my inbox when I got the Easter egg.)
What did you change just before you got the issue? Your population already met the criteria. Was it your title?
Rose Lokia
04-12-2003, 02:25
Rose Lokia
04-12-2003, 03:02
Yes, just the title. I became holy to attract killer kittens to my domain. :)
The NationStatesTurtle
06-12-2003, 04:34
So is it:
Population in excess of 1.25 million
Issue frequency of at least one/day
Holy in the title of the nation
:?:
Rondebosch
08-12-2003, 11:51
I think we have run out of eggs, because I am not getting this issue (and I finally make the population requirement). I am distraught, I say! Distraught!
SalusaSecondus
08-12-2003, 18:16
There is only one egg in the system right now, others will be added once I'm back on top of RL.

P.S. The requirements will all be different anyway.
Rondebosch
09-12-2003, 08:40
I was joking (in frustration). I meant run out of eggs, as in: all the eggs for that particular easter egg have been handed out to nations that qualified before me.
West - Europa
09-12-2003, 16:49
Okay, I didn't pull the lever but chose to let people see the mysterious lever.
I got the doomsday devices result. Now what are the other results?
Unfree People
09-12-2003, 18:35
Evidently people are still getting the issue... was this recently, West - Europa?


edit: whoo hoo! 100th post :D
Rondebosch
09-12-2003, 18:38
Ok, well then let's solve the mystery of why I'm not getting it (because I don't like this mystery much. It hurts.) Put on your deductive reasoning hat, Unfree People, my self-proclaimed forum friend!

[Edit - one too many full stops. It happens.)

[Second Edit - I think that possibly should be deducible reasoning hat, but that sounds awful. I'm tired, ok?]
West - Europa
09-12-2003, 19:48
Evidently people are still getting the issue... was this recently, West - Europa?
Last week I changed my nations' names to include the world "holy". I only got the issue in one. Both have a population of over 1 billion.

Edit: another nation in my region got it, I don't know what they chose, but the result was
and thousands of cute furry kittens are trampling everything in their path (The Mad Capper has found easter eggs).
The Most Glorious Hack
10-12-2003, 08:08
I don't know what they chose, but the result was
and thousands of cute furry kittens are trampling everything in their path (The Mad Capper has found easter eggs).

They pulled the lever.
Kanuckistan
10-12-2003, 08:58
Added 'holy' to the pre-title, and it was the next issue I got; not sure which option to pick, tho.
Rondebosch
10-12-2003, 11:57
Finally! Finally! I finally got it!

<sigh of relief>

(For those interested in such things, my population is 1.291 billion.)

The Pacifist Tao of Rondebosch (about to be no longer Briefly Holy!)
imported_Blab
12-12-2003, 15:19
Rondebosch, were you ever at a population of more than 1.25 billion, holy in the title and one issue/day and with no easter egg? You say your population was 1.291 billion when you got it . . . I think Cold Spring got it at 1.27 billion. How often do you get issues?
Alamein
12-12-2003, 17:45
What do the kittens do to you if you pull the lever? What stat effects?
Unfree People
13-12-2003, 01:32
This makes NO sense. 1.291 billion?? What a cut off number. That can't be right.

Hey, someone who knows something *cough Salusa cough* put us out of our misery and give us a definite answer already! please? lol
SalusaSecondus
13-12-2003, 01:38
Perhaps a polite reminder that issues are given randomly is in order. I had a nation that was eligible, and had to wait close to a week for it to come up.
Unfree People
13-12-2003, 01:55
Oooh.... right. That makes more than perfect sense. Thanks ;)
Alamein
13-12-2003, 23:22
I got the issue 2 days after changing my nation to the Temporarily Holy Nation of Alamein. My population is 1.562 billion.
I'm keeping this issue until I find out what happens with each option.
Ballotonia
13-12-2003, 23:45
Perhaps a polite reminder that issues are given randomly is in order. I had a nation that was eligible, and had to wait close to a week for it to come up.

Well, yeah, but not quite random as in an equal distribution of odds ;)

Whenever there's a new issue, my puppets always get swamped with it!

Ballotonia
Rondebosch
15-12-2003, 10:17
Rondebosch, were you ever at a population of more than 1.25 billion, holy in the title and one issue/day and with no easter egg? You say your population was 1.291 billion when you got it . . . I think Cold Spring got it at 1.27 billion. How often do you get issues?

I get two issues a day. I started keeping an empty issue bank when I learnt about this easter egg (although I don't know if it made a difference - we were all trying different tests and things to figure out what may contribute to getting the issue).


Whenever there's a new issue, my puppets always get swamped with it!


Yeah, me too. Well, "me" as in "Rondebosch", not my puppets. I guess I didn't meet the eligibility requirements initially so, by the time I did, the easter egg had a higher randomness factor for me, which resulted in me having to wait about a week. (How excrutiating that was, I tell ya!)
imported_YourWorstEnemy
15-12-2003, 14:27
I should be coming up soon. 1.241 billion Holy nation. What are the options on the issue, which of them have known effects, and what are those effects??
Thestalker
16-12-2003, 03:12
I should be coming up soon. 1.241 billion Holy nation. What are the options on the issue, which of them have known effects, and what are those effects??
Look here (ttp://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=53919) for the issue and its options. All have effects but I don't know about not pulling the lever or viewing it since I always pull the lever. This causes rampaging kittens in my nation. Other nations have mentioned doomsday devices but I don't know what option they selected.

I get two issues a day. I started keeping an empty issue bank when I learnt about this easter egg (although I don't know if it made a difference . . .
No, I don't think it does. I got the issue in one of my nations with an issue bank that had other issues and I got the issue in this one with one issue per day and as soon as my population exceeded 1.25 million.
imported_YourWorstEnemy
16-12-2003, 16:59
OK, I see the three options and pulling it gives kittens, viewing it gives a private sector based on doomsday devices, does anyone know what option 2 (not pulling it) does?

I'm excited, I should be eligible in a couple more days!
Barbarosea
17-12-2003, 00:31
Thestalker
18-12-2003, 01:22
. . . does anyone know what option 2 (not pulling it) does?
TG Eagleland. It's the only nation the posted on the forums that selected 2.
Ereldor
19-12-2003, 20:12
I got the issue today. Population 1.9 billion or so (and I recently removed a "Holy" from my nation title).

Frightening economy and empty issue banks are not requirements, as I had neither.
Ereldor
20-12-2003, 14:01
Also, I didn't pull the lever:

...a doomsday device lays untouched in a public park (Ereldor has found easter eggs)...
imported_Blab
23-12-2003, 08:43
I got the issue . . . (and I recently removed a "Holy" from my nation title).
Are you saying you didn't have Holy in your title when you got the easter egg? Did you notice any affects on your CR, E or PF after you chose an option?
Ereldor
23-12-2003, 20:52
I got the issue . . . (and I recently removed a "Holy" from my nation title).
Are you saying you didn't have Holy in your title when you got the easter egg? Did you notice any affects on your CR, E or PF after you chose an option?

I had "Holy" in my title when I got the issue, but removed it right afterward.

And no, I didn't notice any change to my nation's statistics.
Tqociotfic
24-12-2003, 01:39
This issue will be mine soon enough. Can't go wrong with a holy aryan realm.
Letila
24-12-2003, 01:43
:roll: Neonazis. Think they're so holy.

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.
The state only exists to serve itself.
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic
of attractive women.
HPSauce
25-12-2003, 16:41
One of my puppets got this issue but never had "holy" in the title.
Dark Arcadia
25-12-2003, 19:40
I set Dark Arcadia (a/k/a Umbrae) to "The Holy Empire of Dark Arcadia" late yesterday after discovering this thread to see if it would work. It did.

It has 1.401 billion inhabitants, and the following stats if anyone's still looking for further "requirements" for the easter egg:

UN Category: Left-Leaning College State
Civil Rights: Superb
Economy: All-Consuming
Political Freedoms: Excellent

I took care of all issues yesterday, get two issues a day, and only got one today (so far, maybe?), which is the Easter Egg itself.

Has anyone yet theorized that the amount of tax might have importance? Just a random thought. Anyway, mine's @ 18%... maybe this all helps. :)
Letila
25-12-2003, 19:54
I'll never get that issue.

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.
The state only exists to serve itself.
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic
of attractive women.
Spoffin
25-12-2003, 20:46
What is this issue?
Unfree People
25-12-2003, 20:54
One of my puppets got this issue but never had "holy" in the title. Please, someone tell me this is just simply not possible before I go completely crazy.

Has anyone yet theorized that the amount of tax might have importance? Just a random thought. Anyway, mine's @ 18%... maybe this all helps. :)Mine's at 0%, and has been since I first made this nation. So I rather doubt it.

I'll never get that issue. Then why did you feel the need to post here? :roll:

What is this issue? Read the rest of the thread... it's a special easter egg that is kind of silly and you can get it only if you've got a huge nation and "holy" is in your pre-title (at least I think so... *glares at HPSauce for making her doubt*)
Spoffin
25-12-2003, 20:59
What is this issue? Read the rest of the thread... it's a special easter egg that is kind of silly and you can get it only if you've got a huge nation and "holy" is in your pre-title (at least I think so... *glares at HPSauce for making her doubt*)I read the whole thread before I posted that. However, none the less, I have now found the thread with the issue copied on it, and so here is the link

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=93372&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Unfree People
25-12-2003, 21:01
I read the whole thread before I posted that. However, none the less, I have now found the thread with the issue copied on it, and so here is the link

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=93372&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 Right, thanks... I've been posting regularly in both threads, so I didn't realize that this one didn't quote the whole issue. Thanks for the link though.
Letila
25-12-2003, 21:08
If only I had a huge puppet with a great economy and "holy" in it's name.

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.
The state only exists to serve itself.
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic
of attractive women.
Unfree People
25-12-2003, 21:25
If only I had a huge puppet with a great economy and "holy" in it's name. *sighs* We've established that economy has nothing to do with it. Again, why do you feel the need to post here when you can't add anything to the discussion?

Now if someone could tell me that "holy" definitely needs to be in the pre title and HPSauce was just fooling with us... heehee.
Goobergunchia
25-12-2003, 21:32
The Not Holy Liberal Republic of Goobergunchia - 1.242 billion

I put Holy in there a few days ago, and I haven't gotten it yet. I want it soon, so I can change the pretitle back to the Liberal Unitary Republic....
Unfree People
25-12-2003, 21:37
1.242 billion *shrugs* there was some discussion of the population cut off being one and a quarter billion, but that was never confirmed.

Salusa also reminded us that the issue comes randomly, like all your other issues. When I changed my name to "Holy Councilate," I got the issue at the next update, but obviously that's not set in stone.
Letila
25-12-2003, 23:47
Are there any of these issues for nations like me?

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.
The state only exists to serve itself.
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic
of attractive women.
Unfree People
26-12-2003, 03:17
Short answer: no.

Long answer: Sal posted at the very beginning of this "easter egg" business that creating puppets won't help you get easter eggs unless you are very patient. Ergo, you need a large population (I assumed). This issue, and one described and discussed slightly in this (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2351963#2351963) thread, are all that we know about.
Hattia
27-12-2003, 00:29
When I put Holy in my title, I also got it at the next update.
Refereeland
27-12-2003, 17:04
I'm not getting this anytime soon, cause I'm quite new... But is there any chance of making the Easter Eggs discovered never leave the description? That would be great.
Bedistan
28-12-2003, 17:46
Grr, only 1.171 billion for me...just two more weeks, though... :twisted:
Spoffin
29-12-2003, 18:43
Put holy in title, got the issue.
Rondebosch
08-01-2004, 13:58
Happy New Year everyone!

The Not Holy Liberal Republic of Goobergunchia - 1.242 billion

I put Holy in there a few days ago, and I haven't gotten it yet. I want it soon, so I can change the pretitle back to the Liberal Unitary Republic....

It took about a week for me to get the issue from the time I hit what we assume to be the population requirement. Have you received it yet?
imported_Blab
10-01-2004, 07:14
... But is there any chance of making the Easter Eggs discovered never leave the description?

The only way you can prevent it from scrolling off is by stopping receipt of further issues, e.g., setting number of issues received to "none," putting your nation in vacation mode, or dismissing all subsequent issues received.