NationStates Jolt Archive


12-11-2003, 18:13
I just got this issue and have one problem, I'm pretty sure I never took any position which could have been twisted to have created a ban on cars. I may be wrong in my recall, but I am pretty sure I ddin't. Could someone clarify what issues and responses could trigger a ban on automobiles?
12-11-2003, 20:12
The validation might be that you have a low rating in the Automotive industry. If you do, but you haven't banned cars. then the issue might come up anyway.
12-11-2003, 20:38
You have banned cars at some point in your nations history.
Tech Modling
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13-11-2003, 07:28
There is another problem with this issue. It only really tries to represent one side of the argument. My guess is it was created for those nations who had banned cars and wanted them back, but as a result it only has acceptable options for this side. There is no "we are happy without cars because cars are dirty, unnecessary and inefficient" option, only "without cars your people are easier to control". so it seems another one gets dismissed.

For those who have not seen it:

Ever since the government banned automobiles, furious soccer moms and commuters have been petitioning the government to revoke the ban, citing any number of troubles people have had without their cars.

The Debate
"The government was being utterly stupid in banning cars, especially at the whim of a bunch of nutjob, tree-hugging bicyclists!" cries Roxanne Silk, CEO of Coo' Stuff, Inc. "My workers are constantly late, they don't work as much because they have to leave early to walk or bike home... leaving this ban in place will only murder the economy!"

"Well, it's extremely difficult to drive my son to and from school and his after-school sports." comments soccer mom Konrad Mistletoe. "But I don't want my boy inhaling all those icky fumes. I say bring back cars, but put some effort into finding cleaner fuels and the like! Who cares if it costs a small fortune?"

"What do they know?" whispers a strange woman clad all in green. "You ought to clamp down on these protesters. Without cars, the people are much easier for you to control, are they not?"
13-11-2003, 07:32
Just dismiss it then.
Henry Kissenger
13-11-2003, 07:36
you have tried to ban cars in your nation before.
13-11-2003, 08:33
Back when I was more of a n00b I got given an issue that resulted in a car ban. They way it was worded I thought I was just banning them from city centres - nope! Banned everywhere.

That issue hasn't yet repeated itself so I guess my guys are still all cycling like mad!
Santa Barbara
13-11-2003, 20:20
Isnt there some way to make it apply only to nations that, at last (most recent) auto-banning-issue, banned autos? And not to any nation that has banned autos ever in its history?

Since the way its worded, it implies that banning auto's was a recent, (and of course very drastic) choice. Not like, "oh, 300 years ago the government banned automobiles, and we're protesting fashionably late!"

Its just kinda confusing. Especially with my major automobile manufacturing sector.
14-11-2003, 06:25
It would probably have been easier that way, but a ban on automobiles doesn't just wear off. After being told I must have banned autos some time in the past I kinda like being able to undo the effects of whatever temporary insanity caused me to ban them in the first place.