NationStates Jolt Archive


Suicide Solution?

Eridanus
25-10-2003, 17:35
Regarding the suicide issue, it needs about two to three more options so that we could make some better more personalized decisions.
HC Eredivisie
25-10-2003, 18:28
there's a suicide issue? :shock:
25-10-2003, 18:42
I think he means the euthanasia issue :?
Ackbar101
25-10-2003, 19:05
What other options would you want?
Konania
25-10-2003, 20:36
There is a suicide issue, #62.

[Spoilers below, highlight text to read]


Oh, the Angst!

The Issue
In response to rising rates of depression related suicides, mental health groups have called for government funding to help support treatment programs, citing various surveys that indicate psychological disorders are often an overlooked problem.

The Debate
"Although it is often dismissed as an irrelevant complaint, depression is a real disease, it isn't just 'all in your head'" says Melbourne Chicago, depression sufferer. "Depression has significant effects on groups and individuals, especially amongst teenagers. Every day, more and more people commit suicide because of this disease, but this could all be stopped if this country had a decent level of funding for support and public awareness programs."
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"Screw them," Jack Christmas, talkback radio host, stated yesterday. "Depression isn't a disease, it's just another example of today's youth finding something to complain about. Life's never been better. In fact, just yesterday, I bought my fourth BMW. And even if it is as serious as the bleeding hearts claim, then I say we leave it and cut some of the funding being wasted on these head cases. If a few whingers jump off a bridge, it'll be good for the genepool. Natural selection, my friends. It's a great thing."
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"Actually, a lot of depression cases in teens are related to school and all the stress and pressure young people are under to succeed. A greater effort to correct the problem of depression should start there, with more funding so that schools can provide better counseling programs." Comments Dr. Hack Clinton, author of the book "Tomato Soup for the Soul". "That way teens who are depressed can get help even if their parents can't or won't take them to see a psychologist."
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HC Eredivisie
25-10-2003, 20:50
ow that one :P
25-10-2003, 21:46
oh, that's sad... :cry:
Kinky bunnies
27-10-2003, 03:42
I don't see how any more options would help.

Those options there are pretty much the dominant views in society right now in RL regarding depresssion and youth suicide.

I could almost name a few radio talkback hosts in RL who holds similar views there.
The Nest
27-10-2003, 13:55
sorry posted twice them couldn't delete one (where did the delete button go?)
The Nest
27-10-2003, 13:55
Can't we build suicide booths so people can kill themselves if they want to?

That would make good sense in my region. Although, maybe i'd have too many civil rights if i did that. Hmm.
28-10-2003, 08:14
Wow, "Melbourne Chicago". Quite the name.
28-10-2003, 17:53
LOL No talk radio host I have ever heard would EVER say something like that! lol What Radio stations do you guys listen to, KSATAN?!! :P
29-10-2003, 16:42
:twisted: im in favor of scuicide. just think of all the starving people. one less moron equals more food for us all.
29-10-2003, 16:44
konovkian had some good ideas. if your sitting in a chair and your a vegitable would you want to die? i would. i can say from experience too. i get dibilitating migraing headaches where one sied of my body goes numb for like 8 hours. if i was like that all the time id throw myself off a bridge
Katganistan
30-10-2003, 03:44
konovkian had some good ideas. if your sitting in a chair and your a vegitable would you want to die? i would. i can say from experience too. i get dibilitating migraing headaches where one sied of my body goes numb for like 8 hours. if i was like that all the time id throw myself off a bridge

I think you might mean Kevorkian.
The Global Market
30-10-2003, 03:58
I think that committing suicide is your fundamental human right that goes hand-in-hand with teh right to life... Therefore I choose teh second option on that bill.

DEATH PENALTY FOR ATTEMPTED SUICIDE!!
Riannen
30-10-2003, 04:52
Yeah, the suicide issue could use some other options. I used the one about government education on suicide and stuff like that (at least I thinkthat was it...)
30-10-2003, 16:20
Hi Konania, how did you manage to paste that and keep it blank unless highlighted? I'm impressed.
HC Eredivisie
30-10-2003, 16:26
Hi Konania, how did you manage to paste that and keep it blank unless highlighted? I'm impressed.

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02-11-2003, 12:08
can't see anywhere to change the text colour!
Goobergunchia
02-11-2003, 18:17
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02-11-2003, 18:19
can't see anywhere to change the text colour!

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The Global Market
02-11-2003, 18:28
Suicide is a fundamental right.
02-11-2003, 20:48
Suicide is a fundamental right.
I don't care if a person commits suicide, but what about euthanasia? This, I believe, is state sponsored murder.
The Global Market
02-11-2003, 20:52
Suicide is a fundamental right.
I don't care if a person commits suicide, but what about euthanasia? This, I believe, is state sponsored murder.

If a person EXPLICITY SAYS that he wants to die, then it's okay for the doctor to kill him.

If the person is unconcious, it should be assumed that the person wants to remain alive.
02-11-2003, 21:00
04-11-2003, 03:09
Suicide is personal choice. You can't stop anyone from doing it, if they want to they will. I believe there should be phonenumbers and counseling services to go to for help. But once you no longer feel worth living and you decide to kill yourself, how could they possibly punish you for it? I see no problem with euthanasia either. It's not murder. They want help to die. What if you were suffering everyday? pain so unbareable that it'd be better to die? What's the problem with getting a little help to speed the process of dying. I think suicide is awful, and hard to deal with. But how can the government even try to stop it? it would have to be on an extremely personal level, and that it pretty much impossible.
05-11-2003, 07:40
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Henry Kissenger
13-11-2003, 07:42
there are many suicide issues and i think we need to solve it as soon as possible.