NationStates Jolt Archive

And and disllow them too.

Now, I'm crap at making issues, anyone who agrees wants to do one?

1. There is one to ban it, as there is one to reintroduce it.

2. By consequently choosing pro (or anti) business issue options, you can get the same effects, although slowly.

3. It took me only a few seconds to decode your post.

There's one to reintroduce it?

Which one?

#4: Economic Collapse Looms!

The Issue
Big business, fed up with over-regulation in @@NAME@@, are heading offshore in ever-increasing numbers.

The Debate
"Good riddance!" says noted environmentalist @@RANDOMNAME@@. "Sniff that air! It's never been so clean! At last, our society is freeing itself from the consumer death-trap! I say it's time to take the final step and outlaw capitalism once and for all!"

"This is a catastrophe waiting to happen," says the Chamber of Commerce. "Think of the consequences! Without big business, where do the jobs come from? Where do we get our medicine? Our cars? Our latest fashions? There are dozens of useless regulations the government could abolish today to make life easier for commerce, and it's high time they did."

#4: Economic Collapse Looms!

The Issue
Big business, fed up with over-regulation in @@NAME@@, are heading offshore in ever-increasing numbers.

The Debate
"Good riddance!" says noted environmentalist @@RANDOMNAME@@. "Sniff that air! It's never been so clean! At last, our society is freeing itself from the consumer death-trap! I say it's time to take the final step and outlaw capitalism once and for all!"

"This is a catastrophe waiting to happen," says the Chamber of Commerce. "Think of the consequences! Without big business, where do the jobs come from? Where do we get our medicine? Our cars? Our latest fashions? There are dozens of useless regulations the government could abolish today to make life easier for commerce, and it's high time they did."



I never gotten that, unless that is a new one. I think it's for imploded/Basket case economies, those with frightening and outlawed PE's don't get it, I think.

;PErhaos you should attemot writing a good issues suggestion.

Yes, its a bit odd that I've been pro-business for.... oh, 9 months.... and apparently, in my ultra-corporatized Conglomerate, private enterprise is STILL illegal.

;PErhaos you should attemot writing a good issues suggestion.

I just took care of it.


Private Enterprise or Bust!

[option]"This is getting ridiculous!" screams @@RANDOMNAME@@ into a blow horn to the protestors, "For years I have never been able to fulfill my dreams of owning a small New Age Shop because of the archaic ban on private enterprise, get this retarded law off of the books so we can shop and spend money rather than get everything from the government!"
[effect]Small mom and pop stores of all varieties are flourishing all across the nation
[stats]economy goes way up, public happiness goes up, government grows some, corporate influence grows some, political freedoms go up

[option]"I don't see what is wrong with the ban," says Socialist Writer @@RANDOMNAME@@, "I mean we all know that private enterprise is the root of all evil and I think that all forms of capitalism should be banned in @@NAME@@ forever!"
[effect]The nation's military is currently fighting with the Corporate Powers
[stats]economy implodes, public unhappiness grows significantly, social welfare grows, government turns into a dictatorship, defense funding grows

I think that Issue you just wrote up is ridiculously biased towards pro-business. The effects should be even. Look at my country for instance, all business is Government owned yet i have a Frightening economy and superb Civil Rights.

Issues must always provide negatives and positives, since this game isnt a pro-business propaganda platform.

Don't worry, if we see an issue with potential we will work on it until it is balanced.

Don't worry, if we see an issue with potential we will work on it until it is balanced.

Does this have potential because I did submit it.

Regarding the 'Economic Collapse Looms' issue:

I have a Frightening economy, but I got this issue. As economic collapse clearly WASN'T looming I thought it would be okay to regulate business a little more. Apparently that was a mistake, as the government seized all private businesses. My economy didn't falter, but my tax rates jumped about 40%. And my timing was bad, because now with all the new issues, I'm not getting the old ones, which means I can't fix this. AAAGGHHH!

Sorry, just venting. All I meant to do was correct the assumption that only imploded or basketcase nations got this issue.

Private Enterprise or Bust!

[option]"This is getting ridiculous!" screams @@RANDOMNAME@@ into a blow horn to the protestors, "For years I have never been able to fulfill my dreams of owning a small New Age Shop because of the archaic ban on private enterprise, get this retarded law off of the books so we can shop and spend money rather than get everything from the government!"
[effect]Small mom and pop stores of all varieties are flourishing all across the nation
[stats]economy goes way up, public happiness goes up, government grows some, corporate influence grows some, political freedoms go up

[option]"I don't see what is wrong with the ban," says Socialist Writer @@RANDOMNAME@@, "I mean we all know that private enterprise is the root of all evil and I think that all forms of capitalism should be banned in @@NAME@@ forever!"
[effect]The nation's military is currently fighting with the Corporate Powers
[stats]economy implodes, public unhappiness grows significantly, social welfare grows, government turns into a dictatorship, defense funding grows

Marry me.

;PErhaos you should attemot writing a good issues suggestion.

I just took care of it.


Private Enterprise or Bust!

[option]"This is getting ridiculous!" screams @@RANDOMNAME@@ into a blow horn to the protestors, "For years I have never been able to fulfill my dreams of owning a small New Age Shop because of the archaic ban on private enterprise, get this retarded law off of the books so we can shop and spend money rather than get everything from the government!"
[effect]Small mom and pop stores of all varieties are flourishing all across the nation
[stats]economy goes way up, public happiness goes up, government grows some, corporate influence grows some, political freedoms go up

[option]"I don't see what is wrong with the ban," says Socialist Writer @@RANDOMNAME@@, "I mean we all know that private enterprise is the root of all evil and I think that all forms of capitalism should be banned in @@NAME@@ forever!"
[effect]The nation's military is currently fighting with the Corporate Powers
[stats]economy implodes, public unhappiness grows significantly, social welfare grows, government turns into a dictatorship, defense funding grows

Just a little biased, I think.

I quote:

Don't worry, if we see an issue with potential we will work on it until it is balanced.

Just a little biased, I think.

Also, wouldn't government size DEcrease if you privatized everything, not increase? There are a couple things in the stats for 'keep the ban' that I think are missing, too (several kinds of funding should be increased, not just welfare). There should probably also be a few more disadvantages assocciated with the first option, like how does it help political freedoms? Anyway, if you say so Salusa. I intend to be in a state where I can get that issue in the not-to-distant future. :D

I had also the idea for this. Can someone pls turn it into a acceptable form, since my english is sometimes below standart?


Title: Freedom or/f enterprise
Description: After some errors in the last five-year-plan, which led to shortages in the supply with shoe polish, the idea rises, that private enterprise should be legal.
Validity: Not for capitalist nations

Options:
[option]"Today it is just shoe polish, tomorrow it will be food!" says famous economist @@Randomname@@, "We need to privatize all major companies or the next crisis will destroy us."
[effect]chaos followed rapid privatization of major industries
[stats]economy goes down (it does this always, when business is in state of change), political rights go down, rich-poor-difference rises

[option] "Economy is controlled by the state and, by this, by the people." responds red party leader @@RANDOMNAME@@, "if we allow private enterprise, the people will lose control and a bunch of greedy pigs will effectivly rule the country"
[effect]CEOs are nominated by the government
[stats]economy stays stable, political rights go up, rich-poor-difference goes down

[option]"All this needless discussions!" says an annoyed passer-by. "Why can't there be a compromise like allowing private enterprise and regulating it so strict, that it will not overtake the country"
[effect]private enterprise juist became legal
[stats]economy rises, political rights go a bit down, public happyness rises a bit (perhaps)


What do you think?

Title: Freedom of Enterprise
Description: After some problems with the last five-year-plan, which led to shortages in the supply with shoe polish, the idea has been suggested that private enterprise should be legal.
Validity: Only if private enterprise is illegal

Options:
[option]"Today it is just shoe polish, tomorrow it will be food!" says famous economist @@RANDOMNAME@@, "We need to privatize all major industries or the next crisis will destroy us."
[effect]chaos followed rapid privatization of major industries
[stats]economy goes down (it does this always, when business is in state of change), political rights go down, rich-poor-difference rises

[option] "The economy is controlled by the state and, by this, by the people." responds red party leader @@RANDOMNAME@@. "If we allow private enterprises, the people will lose control and a bunch of greedy pigs will effectivly rule the country."
[effect]CEOs are nominated by the government
[stats]economy stays stable, political rights go up, rich-poor-difference goes down

[option]"All this needless discussions!" says an annoyed passer-by. "Why can't there be a compromise, like allowing private enterprise and regulating them so strictly, that they will not overtake the country."
[effect]private enterprise just became legal
[stats]economy rises, political rights go a bit down, public happyness rises a bit (perhaps)
Edited for basic spelling/some grammer. Not perfect yet, but someone else give it a run through now. Also, I changed the condition, but not the stats.

I like that issue, actually. Not saying that it would make the final cut and appear in the game, but it's a nicely-written issue nonetheless.

I liked my issue better.

I liked my issue better.

Yours is a little extreme. One of the things we're looking for is a bit of a balance in the options - as in "yes, your economy goes down the toilet if you choose this option, but look at the civil rights you guys have now!". What your issue has is the following choice:

1. economy goes way up, public happiness goes up, government grows some, corporate influence grows some, political freedoms go up

Unless you're aiming for a dictatorship in which everything's been run into the ground (which some people are after, true), then there's only really benefits here. The "size of government" and "corporate influence" bits aren't necessarily going to pose problems for nations who don't really care about either.

2. economy implodes, public unhappiness grows significantly, social welfare grows, government turns into a dictatorship, defense funding grows

This is the absolute opposite side of the coin. Again, there are circumstances where this choice would be quite good to make, but overall it seems like the "you don't really want to make this choice" option. The "unhappiness grows" and "government turns into a dictatorship" bits are rather harsh - again, unless you are aiming for that to happen.

We're not after a black-and-white (or right-and-wrong) choice, and that seems to be what you're giving us here. I won't go as far as to say that it's a good example of one-eyed pro-capitalist thought, but it raises that sort of question.

I just based it on historical observation, no communist and/or socialist society has ever managed to function for a long period of time before the entire system fell apart and the government reverted to a dictatorship, capitalism has been the only system that has been able to function and remain stable in the entire history of humanity.

Here are things possible, which are impossible IRL. Just think of the liberal democratic socialists.

I just based it on historical observation, no communist and/or socialist society has ever managed to function for a long period of time before the entire system fell apart and the government reverted to a dictatorship, capitalism has been the only system that has been able to function and remain stable in the entire history of humanity.
There are lots of socialist governments that are doing quite fine and have done so for many years.
Also, communism still exists (Cuba).

Cuba is a dictatorship in Communist Uniform, at least Saddam was honsest about being a bastard.

I just based it on historical observation, no communist and/or socialist society has ever managed to function for a long period of time before the entire system fell apart and the government reverted to a dictatorship, capitalism has been the only system that has been able to function and remain stable in the entire history of humanity.

Can you find me a communist government that wasn't a form of dictatorship in the first place? Because if you can I'll find you one thats functional.