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Flamebaiting

Neo Art
06-04-2009, 06:18
Moderators only.

A while ago, a poster (Wilgrove) decided to grant me a little...nickname, in an altercation already recorded elsewhere on the forum. Specifically, "puddles".

After so doing, I informed him, and the rest of the forum, that such a nickname was unacceptable, and that any further attempts to address me as such, would be reported for flamebaiting.

In a new thread, in response to a post I made, parkus responded with this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14671248&postcount=7)

Following that, I made this post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14671261&postcount=14), once again reiterating that I do not find such references acceptable, and, based on moderator precedent, continued use of such a name, after I had already voiced my objection to being referred to as such, either by text, or images, was against forum rules.

Following that, he posted this. Which, I interpret, that despite my repeated requests to stop, and my clear, unambiguous statement that I find it unacceptable, he will persist in doing so.

Thus I report the first instance in the thread as contrary to forum rules, for perpetuating it, despite my earlier statement not to continue. I would also request that a moderator make it quite clear that such continued action is against the forum rules.
The Parkus Empire
06-04-2009, 06:26
I cite this in my defense: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=588792

I also point out that in no way did Neo Art make it previously clear to me that he found the picture highly offensive. I also point out that I did not address him by that name in the thread. After posting the picture he said: "Parkus, knock it the fuck off."; I asked if he found it offensive. I did not say anything like: "Did I hurt your feelings, Puddles?" I just asked why it bothered him so much; I did not continue to harass him with the name, and I cannot see how this could be considered flame baiting.

My intent was not malicious. I find it very strange that Neo Art, on this forum, has referred to all Libertarians as "crackpots", then defended his statement against objections, but later finds a picture alluding to relatively inoffensive and merely teasing term to require action on the part of the moderators.
Neo Art
06-04-2009, 06:39
If we are going to start citing moderation threads, then for sure:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=531692

The relevant fact is, that in this pos (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14642356&postcount=30)t of this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=588178), which you, Parkus, were a contributor in, I made it clear that refering to me by such a nickname, or making references therein, was unacceptable. You chose to continue. Whether you agree or disagree with my statements on this forum is irrelevant. If you think I'm breaking a rule, report it.

However continuing behavior I have already informed you is unacceptable is breaking forum rules. And thus, I've reported you for it.
The Parkus Empire
06-04-2009, 06:55
If we are going to start citing moderation threads, then for sure:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=531692

"Nark", like "crackpot", is a far more derogatory term than "Puddles"; besides that, I was not continually referring to you by that name, I merely posted a picture.

The relevant fact is, that in this pos (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14642356&postcount=30)t of this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=588178), which you, Parkus, were a contributor in, I made it clear that refering to me by such a nickname, or making references therein, was unacceptable. You chose to continue. Whether you agree or disagree with my statements on this forum is irrelevant. If you think I'm breaking a rule, report it.

I saw Wilgrove was irking you by repeatedly calling you that to annoy you. But I do not do that--I posted a picture to tease you once, and I did not refer to you by that name in conversation.

You are not breaking any rule that I am aware of.

However continuing behavior I have already informed you is unacceptable is breaking forum rules.

Not necessarily; see "USian". Though I repeat: I merely posted a picture.

And thus, I've reported you for it.

Let justice be done.
Ardchoille
06-04-2009, 09:12
... Though I repeat: I merely posted a picture.


Not quite; you implied you would continue to post using the disputed term when you felt Wilgrove needed defending.

I only post it in response to nick-names, or when you harass Wilgrove, which you just did.

Wilgrove is entirely capable of defending himself, so there is no reason for you to continue. I see that you have already removed the pictures. Neo Art has told you he dislikes the nickname, so I'm sure that you, as a reasonable person, will not continue to annoy him by using it, referring to it or illustrating it.

Equally, I am sure that Neo Art, as a reasonable person, will realise that an authoritarian order is less likely to succeed than a polite request, and will amend his posting style appropriately.

I am sure of all this because I, too, am a reasonable person, and know that two intelligent adults are more than capable of resolving a minor disagreement and playing nicely together.

I am also sure of it because if you don't I'll bloody well thump yer with the reasonable-person mod tools provided.

Thank you; it is always a pleasure to take part in a polite exchange of views.