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02-04-2009, 23:06
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Gift-of-god has repeatedly been flame-baiting, even when asked to stop. Gift-of-god clearly knows he is flame-baiting, because when I ask him to stop, he doesn't. . . That is until I say this is the last time I will warn you, he conviently stops, knowing what he is doing is provoking/flame-baiting me, until he resumes again in a further post.
Another poster, Ledgersia, also kindly asks Gift-of-god to stop using the word, though Gift-of-god disregards his request. There is no argument to be made out of using the word, and indeed gift-of-god isn't even trying to argue the term, he is just using it to flame-bait while debating an entirely unrelated subject, so there is clearly no added debate bonus for him to be using the term USian, except, like I said, to flame-bait.
It's not like this is a thread on whether or not USian is an acceptable subsitute for American, this is just him trying to use it to flame-bait. There as it would be a debate about the legitimacy of the term, usage of such shouldn't be flame-baiting because it, like any subject, should be used for debate. Like if someone started a thread on if a correct term for Black people was negro (hypothetical), I'm sure the thread would be allowed. That does not mean, however, that you can just call people "negro" when you know many find it incorrect, offensive and it's not commonly accepted as a current term to use as an adjective for people, simply because you know it will provoke people. . .
/my opinion
What do you call members of the USian congress that aren't men?
Do you still call them congressmen?
Dude, please use the term estadounidense instead. "USian" just sounds so stupid.
That's a Spanish word. I'm currently writing in English.
I know, but USian just sounds completely stupid. I don't find it offensive so much as I find it retarded-sounding.
Or you can just call us Yankees, Yanks, or whatever. :p
Actually, I had asked you a specific question.
What do you call members of the USian congress that aren't men?
Do you still call them congressmen?
After calling his flame-bait, I continue debating.
That is flame-baiting.
There is no such thing as a USian congress. I'm not going to get mad and flame you, even though you are flame-baiting, but it just sounds stupid and makes you look juvenile and like you can't use english.
However, if you were asking when we call members of the U.S. Congress, it's usually, as examples, like this:
Senator Clinton
Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Still switching goal posts though from that she was using the incorrect adjective to describe someone from the United States of America. She used the term "USAmerican member of congress" which is not only incorrect, but only confuses the situation. She is clearly speaking about the United States Congress, so it is obvious that it is an American member of Congress. It would not be a Peruvian member of Congress, logically. Thus, no clarification is necessary.
But he just continues.
EDIT: By the way, there is a USian congress. I believe it has two chambers: the Senate and the House of Representatives.
So I clearly and kindly ask him to stop.
Continuing to flame bait . . . ? I already asked you to stop flame-baiting me. Would you mind stopping?
Yet he continues. . .
No, we can say that that is a correct term, and there are others that are also correct, unlike USAmerican, which is not a correct term we use in english to describe our congressmen's/senators'/representatives'/ nationalities.
The issue here is between correct and incorrect terms.
Switching goal posts is fine, I don't mine debating this, but that doesn't stop you from being wrong on the the other issue. :wink:
So, you call a male member of the USian congress 'congressman' but a female member of the USian congress is called by her specific title?
Why is that?
Now I move from asking to stop to warning. . .
So, you call a male member of the USian congress 'congressman' but a female member of the USian congress is called by her specific title?
Why is that?
This is the last time I will ask you to stop flame-baiting. . .
Which clearly shows he knows what he is doing is flame-baiting because once I warn him he stops and does not try to provoke me with 'USian' in his reply:
So, you're not going to answer my question?
I just thought that after you were so careful to point out the proper English for discussing 'congressmen' that you would be a bit more careful when speaking of their female colleagues, yet you aren't.
Perhaps you should refrain from commenting on the English of others if you can not defend your own usage.
Congressman is not an incorrect term:
Encyclopedia.com, sourced from The Oxford Pocket Dictionary of Current English. 2009
con·gress·man / ˈkänggrəsmən; ˈkän-/
• n. (pl. -men) a member of the U.S. Congress (also used as a form of address), usually specifically a member of the U.S. House of Representatives.
That doesn't mean there are not other correct words to use as well, which I have already stated but you have ignored, such as Senator and Representative.
Until his next reply, in which he continues flame baiting again. It is here that I have decided to report him, after asking him repeatedly (and so did another poster) not to use the word and even warning him to stop:
Are you saying that it is correct to address female members of the USian congress as congressmen? Isn't that a bit sexist?
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=588596&page=6
Gift-of-god has repeatedly been flame-baiting, even when asked to stop. Gift-of-god clearly knows he is flame-baiting, because when I ask him to stop, he doesn't. . . That is until I say this is the last time I will warn you, he conviently stops, knowing what he is doing is provoking/flame-baiting me, until he resumes again in a further post.
Another poster, Ledgersia, also kindly asks Gift-of-god to stop using the word, though Gift-of-god disregards his request. There is no argument to be made out of using the word, and indeed gift-of-god isn't even trying to argue the term, he is just using it to flame-bait while debating an entirely unrelated subject, so there is clearly no added debate bonus for him to be using the term USian, except, like I said, to flame-bait.
It's not like this is a thread on whether or not USian is an acceptable subsitute for American, this is just him trying to use it to flame-bait. There as it would be a debate about the legitimacy of the term, usage of such shouldn't be flame-baiting because it, like any subject, should be used for debate. Like if someone started a thread on if a correct term for Black people was negro (hypothetical), I'm sure the thread would be allowed. That does not mean, however, that you can just call people "negro" when you know many find it incorrect, offensive and it's not commonly accepted as a current term to use as an adjective for people, simply because you know it will provoke people. . .
/my opinion
What do you call members of the USian congress that aren't men?
Do you still call them congressmen?
Dude, please use the term estadounidense instead. "USian" just sounds so stupid.
That's a Spanish word. I'm currently writing in English.
I know, but USian just sounds completely stupid. I don't find it offensive so much as I find it retarded-sounding.
Or you can just call us Yankees, Yanks, or whatever. :p
Actually, I had asked you a specific question.
What do you call members of the USian congress that aren't men?
Do you still call them congressmen?
After calling his flame-bait, I continue debating.
That is flame-baiting.
There is no such thing as a USian congress. I'm not going to get mad and flame you, even though you are flame-baiting, but it just sounds stupid and makes you look juvenile and like you can't use english.
However, if you were asking when we call members of the U.S. Congress, it's usually, as examples, like this:
Senator Clinton
Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Still switching goal posts though from that she was using the incorrect adjective to describe someone from the United States of America. She used the term "USAmerican member of congress" which is not only incorrect, but only confuses the situation. She is clearly speaking about the United States Congress, so it is obvious that it is an American member of Congress. It would not be a Peruvian member of Congress, logically. Thus, no clarification is necessary.
But he just continues.
EDIT: By the way, there is a USian congress. I believe it has two chambers: the Senate and the House of Representatives.
So I clearly and kindly ask him to stop.
Continuing to flame bait . . . ? I already asked you to stop flame-baiting me. Would you mind stopping?
Yet he continues. . .
No, we can say that that is a correct term, and there are others that are also correct, unlike USAmerican, which is not a correct term we use in english to describe our congressmen's/senators'/representatives'/ nationalities.
The issue here is between correct and incorrect terms.
Switching goal posts is fine, I don't mine debating this, but that doesn't stop you from being wrong on the the other issue. :wink:
So, you call a male member of the USian congress 'congressman' but a female member of the USian congress is called by her specific title?
Why is that?
Now I move from asking to stop to warning. . .
So, you call a male member of the USian congress 'congressman' but a female member of the USian congress is called by her specific title?
Why is that?
This is the last time I will ask you to stop flame-baiting. . .
Which clearly shows he knows what he is doing is flame-baiting because once I warn him he stops and does not try to provoke me with 'USian' in his reply:
So, you're not going to answer my question?
I just thought that after you were so careful to point out the proper English for discussing 'congressmen' that you would be a bit more careful when speaking of their female colleagues, yet you aren't.
Perhaps you should refrain from commenting on the English of others if you can not defend your own usage.
Congressman is not an incorrect term:
Encyclopedia.com, sourced from The Oxford Pocket Dictionary of Current English. 2009
con·gress·man / ˈkänggrəsmən; ˈkän-/
• n. (pl. -men) a member of the U.S. Congress (also used as a form of address), usually specifically a member of the U.S. House of Representatives.
That doesn't mean there are not other correct words to use as well, which I have already stated but you have ignored, such as Senator and Representative.
Until his next reply, in which he continues flame baiting again. It is here that I have decided to report him, after asking him repeatedly (and so did another poster) not to use the word and even warning him to stop:
Are you saying that it is correct to address female members of the USian congress as congressmen? Isn't that a bit sexist?
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=588596&page=6