NationStates Jolt Archive

First, there's this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14638092&postcount=94):

No, see here's the reality of the situation. Obama is the President and is currently conducting military operations in various countries throughout the world which is far more relevant than whether or not you were happy or sad sitting in your jungle in 2003 when you heard of the invasion of Iraq.

"Your jungle" sounds awfully condescending, as if to imply that the target of the post was primitive, backward, uncivilized, etc.

Then there's this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14638128&postcount=105).

Saying that Brazil "needed" a regime that tortured, murdered, "disappeared," exiled, etc. hundreds if not thousands of Brazilians, surely constitutes flamebait, does it not? Wouldn't it be like saying that Spain "needed" the 2004 train bombings that killed hundreds and maimed many more?

I don't know if either of those posts are actionable, but I would like it if the mods at least looked them over and gave me their opinion. Thanks for your time.

First, there's this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14638092&postcount=94):



"Your jungle" sounds awfully condescending, as if to imply that the target of the post was primitive, backward, uncivilized, etc.

Then there's this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14638128&postcount=105).

Saying that Brazil "needed" a regime that tortured, murdered, "disappeared," exiled, etc. hundreds if not thousands of Brazilians, surely constitutes flamebait, does it not? Wouldn't it be like saying that Spain "needed" the 2004 train bombings that killed hundreds and maimed many more?

I don't know if either of those posts are actionable, but I would like it if the mods at least looked them over and gave me their opinion. Thanks for your time.

The second post makes me wonder if TAI would have posted it if I weren't there. I didn't report it for a few reasons, among them the fact that - used as a mere opinion - it's not considered flamebaiting. But I do think the intention was to rile me up.

No to the "Brazil needed it"; as Heikoku said, it's opinion. He countered with another, equally tendentious. Standard NSG exchange.

As to the "jungle" bit, I can see the implications, Ledgersia, but given the environment of Brazil I can't justifiably conclude that the intention was to insult.

Fair enough. Thanks for looking it over.

As to the "jungle" bit, I can see the implications, Ledgersia, but given the environment of Brazil I can't justifiably conclude that the intention was to insult.

The Amazonian Jungle is only present in our North. We have a desertic area in our northeast, tropical plains in our midwest, tropical hills and fields in our southeast (where I live) and subtropical plains and fields in our south. Our seaside is something else, its vast majority tropical. :p

And I did tell him (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14602867&postcount=284) - and others - that my city, Belo Horizonte, about the fifth largest in Brazil, is larger than Houston, by population, at 2.5 Million people. By metro area, it's larger than Seattle's metro area, at 4 million. Our biggest metro area, São Paulo Metropolitan Area, is larger than New York's - 19 million to 18.

It's a bit like claiming you or Ferrous Oxide live in the Outback after you repeatedly said you live in Sydney, though I find it more "sad" on him than "insulting" (which has no effect, I assume, on it being or not against the rules). Just pointing that out, Brazil has less jungle proportionally than Australia has deserts. ;)

(As for the "Brazil needed it", I cannot help but keep wondering if it'd be seen as trolling or flamebaiting to make an ACTUAL claim (not like mine) that NY "needed" 9/11.)

According to wikpedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_areas_by_population), the NY area is fourth in the world (19.75 million) while Sao Paulo is seventh (18.85 million), but I digress. Brazil is still mostly nonjungle, and the vast majority of the population is in the nonjungle areas.

According to wikpedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_areas_by_population), the NY area is fourth in the world (19.75 million) while Sao Paulo is seventh (18.85 million), but I digress. Brazil is still mostly nonjungle, and the vast majority of the population is in the nonjungle areas.

It's weird - the articles about the cities say otherwise, if you click on them. o_O

Regardless, the point stands - Brazil is mostly nonjungle, and the vast majority lives in nonjungle areas, a fact of which I informed TAI at least once and other people sometimes as well.

How about the Mods make Heikoku and TAI put each ohter on ignore for the sake of all of our sanity?

How about the Mods make Heikoku and TAI put each ohter on ignore for the sake of all of our sanity?

I didn't report TAI. *Shrugs*

I didn't report TAI. *Shrugs*

No, but you get into this childish spats with him that end up hijacking a thread and dominating discussion for pages and pages, and those of us who dont give a crap have to sift through dozens of posts between the two of you trolling and flamebating each other to find posts from NSGers who are actually talking about something that isnt mind-numbinly childish and inflamitory.

He pisses you off. You know he pisses you off. Either stop responding to his obvious trolling of you or put him on ignore.

He pisses you off. You know he pisses you off. Either stop responding to his obvious trolling of you or put him on ignore.

If you read my responses you're more liable to detect amusement.

If you read my responses you're more liable to detect amusement.

Regardless, the rest of my point stands. Im pretty sure I speak for everyone on NSG when I say it too.

Not a mod, I agree with KoL.

Regardless, the rest of my point stands. Im pretty sure I speak for everyone on NSG when I say it too.

not a mod, but it really should be between H2 and TAI.

and in my Non-Moddy opinion, I think this threadjack should not be continued. any issue between TAI and H2 should be between them and not us. Since neither one of them reported this in, we really shouldn't be trying to referee them.

not a mod, but it really should be between H2 and TAI.

and in my Non-Moddy opinion, I think this threadjack should not be continued. any issue between TAI and H2 should be between them and not us. Since neither one of them reported this in, we really shouldn't be trying to referee them.

I made a new thread.