Answer to Ardchoille
Hairless Kitten
22-02-2009, 19:11
In that case, I leave the club.
If you may produce racist noise, if you may justify torture, if you can do some major trolling about Palestinian people but can't make a mild joke about some Americans their fatness then I don't belong here.
I never had a problem with NS mods or just anyone before, it's rather rare that I get bans or kicks in other forums too.
But I understand that some category of very dumb people do not understand absurdisme. I understand as well that some people are taking themselves too serious.
See you, but not soon.
Hydesland
22-02-2009, 19:50
a) Being racist, isn't against the rules in itself
b) The examples you provided of racism were satirical racism IIRC, with no actual intent to insult other races
c) Many people have that opinion towards Palestine, there is no reason to assume it is trolling.
d) Your mild joke was either an insulting generalisation towards all Americans, or an insulting generalisation towards all Americans who believe in a creative deity (so a majority anyway). That is clearly against the rules.
Sarzonia
22-02-2009, 20:26
Creating a thread to discuss a moderator ruling after said moderator has locked the thread with that ruling = not a good idea.
Katganistan
22-02-2009, 20:44
In that case, I leave the club.
If you may produce racist noise, if you may justify torture, if you can do some major trolling about Palestinian people but can't make a mild joke about some Americans their fatness then I don't belong here.
I never had a problem with NS mods or just anyone before, it's rather rare that I get bans or kicks in other forums too.
But I understand that some category of very dumb people do not understand absurdisme. I understand as well that some people are taking themselves too serious.
See you, but not soon.
Creating a thread to discuss a moderator ruling after said moderator has locked the thread with that ruling = not a good idea.
Nor is stating that they are dumb for not understanding your insults are just a joke, and that to be annoyed by them is to be taking oneself too seriously.
You know where the door is if you're so offended by being called out for being uncivl.
You also know where it is when you want to come back and be civil.
Ardchoille
23-02-2009, 01:30
If you may produce racist noise, if you may justify torture, if you can do some major trolling about Palestinian people but can't make a mild joke about some Americans their fatness then I don't belong here.
If you refuse to acknowledge that what earned your ban was your repeated flaming, rather than your original joke; if you won't recognise that site rules apply to you, too; then you're right.
Hydesland, it doesn't matter whether the racist threads were serious or satiric. The OPs proposed a position and argued it. Others rebutted it and (on balance, I think) refuted it, rather than simply denying it. That's what debate sites are about.
Also, national generalisations, even mildly insulting ones, are not always actionable. Context matters.