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A bit of baiting or trolling in there, in my opinion, but that isn't what concerns me. It's that he posted in my thread, where in the title it clearly states [Self-RP] and later in the actual post I have written its closed, in the first sentence.

I've put the word "CLOSED" in your title, too. "Self-RP" might be ambiguous, but CLOSED should get the point across to even the newest newbie.

Speaking of which, you might want to edit that post to explain the lines about "will be and are Secret-In-Character" a bit more.

I'm assuming you mean that they're known only to you and are therefore NOT to be considered known IC-ly by anyone RPing with you, but I don't think that would be immediately obvious to anyone new to the game.

Alrighty, thank you. :)

Buddha C, you're closing a thread in which you perform actions that directly influence the outcome of the war; OOC comments should be allowed, no?

Ahhh. I was reading that as a putting-the-best-spin-on-it bit of national history, not as a contribution to an active RP.

Buddha C, you can't arbitrarily change events in one RP by rewriting it in a separate RP. You can present those events in a different light, however -- like the PR spin that turns a massive defeat into a glorious and heroic resistance against overwhelming odds.

I'm not clear which of the two you're doing and I'm not going to spend time editing any RPs for content. I'll put a temporary lock on it, you can get onto IRC or MSN or whatever, and when you get it sorted out, get back to me and I'll unlock it again. That way you won't lose that impressive formatting.

Hey,

Buddha C asked me to post here about something. Me and him were talking over MSN about how to reorganize his fleets and command structure. I was basically assisting him, and I had full knowledge of it. To my best knowledge, I didn't think it was attempting to influence the war. All he was doing was creating a thread and story to tell how he went about shifting his command structure and fleets around to better role play his nation.

I'm sorry for bugging, but he asked me to pine in. Like I said, I was fully aware of it, and I know it doesn't mean anything. Me and him are kinda confused about this though, so am I. I can't get stoky to respond over AIM, and I don't know whether you want to wait for him to speak to Buddha or me be the moderator where over AIM I can speak for Stoky to Buddha and vice versa...

Gah, confused, sorry. Anyway, sorry for bugging, and I'm just saying this on behalf of Buddha C who asked me to.

You're confused? Join the queue!

Stoklomolvi: What, specifically, has BuddhaC done? Can your objection be overcome by an edit? If so, what? (Link or quote where possible.)

Buddha C: To clarify, if necessary, would you be willing to RP on a restricted basis, eg, "Closed, strictly attn XXXXXXX and YYYYYY only", to sort out the objections (whatever they are)?

Note that nobody's in trouble for anything at this stage.

This the basis of the RP (solely):
To re-organize the fleet and equip the already-created aircraft and crew to the ships, and put the older vessels in storage. The line about the victory at RBS was because my government (ICLY) recorded and sees it as a victory, for the reason that so few vessels were lost and so many had been sunken or damaged. [And OOCly I take it as a victory also :-p]

And no, for the sole reason that it effects NO ONE ELSE.

I did not know about any agreements or such outside of the war. The fact is, Buddha, you're still at war with me, and by engaging in a reorganisation of your fleet which you may or may not use against me in the near future, you're altering the outcome of the war. Locking it away under a closed tag cannot mask anything; you're preventing me from attempting any possible pre-emptive strike against your fleet if I so choose [not like I will; I have nothing to strike with]. Anything you do right now can affect the war [save for closed character RPs in which no one should interfere anyway].

The main thing about the thread is that you directly relate to the Great War in which you are still participating. Look at this quote:...Royal British States colony of North-Western Drakovia...And you will notice that this quote directly references a battle that Buddha C fought within said war. Reorganising your fleets and navies while we are at war in a closed thread is something I find mightily undesirable and objectionable; like I said, you can use those fleets, and there is nothing I can do to stop you from doing anything if you close the thread. Of course, if you decide to not use the fleets ever and consider them gone for the duration of the war, then no one can stop you.

My two cents.

Or, you could make a new thread that is open, and attack me while I'm re-organizing my fleet? I'm only doing this so I have something to show you guys when I come back with a differently organized fleet so you don't start bitching at me that I just switched them up. And so what if I directly relate to the Ideal War, is really that big of a deal that my nation / and less importantly, myself, find it a victory and we choose to cite it so in the annals of our history and our minds? [Last part was of course, ICly.]

*sigh* Well, if that's all the problem is, then why not try changing "proving himself in the victory" to "proving himself in the engagement", or "proving himself at the Royal British States colony of North-Western Drakovia" or "in battle at ...". A bit of compromise is surely worth it to get back to the story.

You could always do some dialogue later -- might give you an excuse to RP a good pub brawl if one of your guys overhears an enemy talking of "the defeat" when he's ICly convinced it was a victory.

I'll unlock it, you get on with it, and if Stoklomovi doesn't like the way you're working it out he can come back here and point out why.

Mods don't generally interfere in RP content; it's better you handle it than have an ooc flame war break out and see the thread closed altogether and your work lost.

Thank you.

The thing is not about the victory or whatever, but his involvement in the current war as a whole. If he reorganises his navy now, and I'm seeking to strike him when he's reorganising, then I could not. But clearly, that is not the case, as apparently a new thread can be made and the fleet struck anyway. What's the point of keeping it closed to everyone then?

So that I don't get annoying OOC comments and I can keep my thread looking pretty. :), honestly, that is exactly what it balls down to.

Stoklomolvi, I think the intent of the closed thread is to detail the reorganisation. I think BuddhaC is using that thread as an online filing cabinet in which he's listing the details so he can refer to them conveniently at any time.

It's closed because nobody else has the key to the cabinet/password to the command system/whatever. Or nobody's broken the code.

I'm guessing that, by offering an open thread, he's indicating that he knows such an undertaking wouldn't go entirely unnoticed by other countries' espionage agencies.

So you would have to work out some OOC agreement about how much you know, or he would have to agree to put clues in his posts and leave it to you to pick them up, then strike ... or all this could go in the current war thread (as I don't know which one this is, I'm not aware of whether it would fit) ... but, c'mon, you've been doing this for long enough to know how to go about it.

I can't really see how this needs further mod input.

Um, since when do mods regulate RP?

Stoklomolvi, I think the intent of the closed thread is to detail the reorganisation. I think BuddhaC is using that thread as an online filing cabinet in which he's listing the details so he can refer to them conveniently at any time.

It's closed because nobody else has the key to the cabinet/password to the command system/whatever. Or nobody's broken the code.

I'm guessing that, by offering an open thread, he's indicating that he knows such an undertaking wouldn't go entirely unnoticed by other countries' espionage agencies.

So you would have to work out some OOC agreement about how much you know, or he would have to agree to put clues in his posts and leave it to you to pick them up, then strike ... or all this could go in the current war thread (as I don't know which one this is, I'm not aware of whether it would fit) ... but, c'mon, you've been doing this for long enough to know how to go about it.

I can't really see how this needs further mod input.

I personally think this shouldn't have, I just don't want my thread locked. Anyways, thank you and have a nice day, btw you're right.

Um, since when do mods regulate RP?


I can't really see how this needs further mod input.

In short, shoo!