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Gauthier
04-12-2008, 19:43
It's starting to simmer and get personal on the Polar Bear Thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14274291&postcount=318

Lick my ass.

Sorry, didn't want you to feel left out.


False. I'm saying that I'm willing to side with IQ for reasons I already gave. I also stated that cooperation between the two systems would be preferable, because ultimately both sides need to be convinced. My main gist has been that no one here has the expertise or experience to say SHIT about IQ, and I've given many examples of how it would be impossible to present IQ to you within the scope of this discussion because of the lack of intellectual infrastructure (unlike Western paradigms, which we have been exposed to since infancy).

All I've been trying to do is point out the massive flaws in declaring IQ to be wrong, full stop, without any understanding of what IQ is. My position isn't predicated on polar bears, it's couched in a wider ideological framework that applies to all clashes between aboriginal and non-aboriginal paradigms. You can stand there on the outside, taking no position other than 'you're not playing nice'...you're welcome to it. But frankly, this thread would have just been a 'giggle, look at how dumb those eskimos are' if some of us hadn't decided to challenge the basic assumption that traditional knowledge is primitive and wrong.

And seriously, fuck off with the whole 'you're so mean Sinuhue'. It's tiring. Yes. I am. We all know it. Move on.
Ardchoille
05-12-2008, 02:34
There is no bar to pursuing an argument vigorously, which Neesika has been doing throughout the thread.

So we're presumably talking about the first and last lines, because they're the only personal remarks.

Neesika, as you would know, mods can read deleted posts. Having done so, I concede the point you made there about illustrating an argument.

However, the "shinshi-shinshi" one earlier wasn't, and the reaction from Sdaeriji (who isn't blameless) doesn't suggest that it's simply a matter of friendly abuse between regulars.

So: yellow card, as a reminder to stop doing it in the streets and frightening the horses -- and the newcomers.

EDIT 1: After reading back, I removed "within the rules" from the first sentence.

EDIT 2: Afterthought: the way The Atlantian Islands framed the original post undoubtedly raised the temperature of the discussion from the outset. Don't troll in OPs.
Neesika
05-12-2008, 02:59
I deleted the post so others wouldn't feel like giving their 2 cents, knowing that you could still acess it if you wished. Also, after writing that I didn't think Sdaeriji was taking it personally, he posted something that indicated he was taking it personally, so I had to concede my error on that point.

Anyway, judgment passed, moving on.