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Received: 4 hours ago Mod deleted nations are NEVER restored. No.

I Thought they could get Restored if you asked The mods for it being Restored.

I want to know which Mod said this and why.

I hope it is not Fris.

If a mod deleted a nation, then s/he did so for a reason. So yeah, there would be no point in restoring a nation for rules violation/other modly reason now, would there?

I'm not a mod, but my understanding is that you can auto restore nations that were deleted for inactivity, but if a nation was deleted for cause, you can't restore it.

I'm not sure what the source of confusion is.

The reason for confusion is not liking the answer, which I, by the way, gave. Sorry if that ruins your idea that you're being somehow persecuted by a particular moderator -- you are being held to the same rules and limits as everyone else, and the answer would have been the same no matter which moderator picked up the task.

Nations deleted by moderators as a punishment are not restored, ever.

Well, while I have this here..........

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=568856

Lock and Delete please.

Well, while I have this here..........

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=568856

Lock and Delete please.

Locked, but not deleted. No need to do both.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14258723&posted=1#post14258723

Hataria/The Ryou Black Islands/The Steppe Empire has posted this under a new nation.

He apparently is claiming Hatarian lands.

Yet according to this post:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13118014&postcount=13

Hataria has never existed by mod ruling.

So, yeah... we need clarification.

How come when Greston came back as New Greston, no one griped about him, while I started a New Version of Hataria, You guys jump and say "illegal! Illegal! Delete Him! 1010101!" ?

Mods, even you Fris, I will ask that you allow Me to continue to be Hataria, This is nothing but.......Nothing

Greston was deleted by technical error, I believe. You were deleted. There's a difference.

Unless, of course, I'm wrong.

Nations deleted for inactivity can be restored. Nations deleted for rules violation cannot.

Greston was deleted by technical error, I believe. You were deleted. There's a difference.

Unless, of course, I'm wrong.

Greston claimed that Fris deleted his nation of Old Greston (don't know what for.) and that he had to restart his nation as NEW Greston

besides. The Recton was made after a few nations started some Puppets that were WAY out of line (aka: Southern Hataria.) As for the Deleting of Hataria. I still think it was Bias and unjust.

I can tell you right now that piling on isn't going to help at all. Just let the mods do their work and it'll get sorted- accusations of bias aren't going to help at all.

What is unclear?

It is GONE. It does not exist. You were told you'd be deleted for bringing it up again, and yet the past 24 hours have seen GHP requests and two threads.

Drop it. Hataria does not exist in any form on this site, ever.

Now I want to know who hacked into my Nation of Yokai-Hataria, Changed The Password and removed the E-mail for it?

Now I want to know who hacked into my Nation of Yokai-Hataria, Changed The Password and removed the E-mail for it?

What is unclear?

It is GONE. It does not exist. You were told you'd be deleted for bringing it up again, and yet the past 24 hours have seen GHP requests and two threads.

Drop it. Hataria does not exist in any form on this site, ever.
There are no Hatarian lands. There are no Hatarian armies. There is no Hatarian population.

Do not bring it up again.

Greston claimed that Fris deleted his nation of Old Greston (don't know what for.) and that he had to restart his nation as NEW Greston

besides. The Recton was made after a few nations started some Puppets that were WAY out of line (aka: Southern Hataria.) As for the Deleting of Hataria. I still think it was Bias and unjust.


I created Southern Hataria for my own nefarious purposes, considering that I was the one that eradicated that non-existant piece of land that mythologically was referred to as "Hataria" (Only saying it the way Katganistan explained, as in Hataria being a mythological place which never TRULY existed ;)) and that non-entity was dominated, in myth, by Prussian (my) Armies. What I do with my lands, be they real or in the mind of my obviously mentally unstable rulers (as any ruler who would organize a piece of land which does not exist is frankly insane) is my own business.

Seriously though, just let it go. Its over, done with, and that nation, had it existed, was, according to legend and folklore, destroyed by a combined Wanderjarian-TPFian genocidal war. Of course, that is all hypothetical because such an event never occured. Right?

I created Southern Hataria for my own nefarious purposes, considering that I was the one that eradicated that non-existant piece of land that mythologically was referred to as "Hataria" (Only saying it the way Katganistan explained, as in Hataria being a mythological place which never TRULY existed ;)) and that non-entity was dominated, in myth, by Prussian (my) Armies. What I do with my lands, be they real or in the mind of my obviously mentally unstable rulers (as any ruler who would organize a piece of land which does not exist is frankly insane) is my own business.

Seriously though, just let it go. Its over, done with, and that nation, had it existed, was, according to legend and folklore, destroyed by a combined Wanderjarian-TPFian genocidal war. Of course, that is all hypothetical because such an event never occured. Right?

I second everything in this post. Can we all just drop it? I think Fris's ruling was complete bullshit, but complaining and bitching about it won't change anything.

And 'sides, sometimes starting from scratch can be fun.

This thread should probably be closed. There's nothing more useful to be done here.

Sounds like what's happened to Hataria is what I did to Roach-Busters after a war RP went south.

After I ignored the war, I announced what I called a death penalty ignore, which means Roach-Busters never existed in my NS history. Everything that happened in past RPs was wiped out of my country's history books.

Based on what I recall from my previous tenure as a RPer, I think the mods are justified. There really was no RPing with Hataria, regardless of whose fault it was.

The reason for confusion is not liking the answer, which I, by the way, gave. Sorry if that ruins your idea that you're being somehow persecuted by a particular moderator -- you are being held to the same rules and limits as everyone else, and the answer would have been the same no matter which moderator picked up the task.

Nations deleted by moderators as a punishment are not restored, ever.

Clarification for separate hypothetical cases please:

Even if said deletion were to be appealed and found to have been in error (a misunderstanding, or slip of the modly finger for example)?

Clarification for separate hypothetical cases please:

Even if said deletion were to be appealed and found to have been in error (a misunderstanding, or slip of the modly finger for example)?
Oh come on, Redwulf, really, you don't need clarification on this, do you?

As a punishment, by accident, and overturned by appeal are three separate entities. This particular case was no accident and has not been overturned on appeal.

By accident has rarely happened and has been taken care of immediately, with apologies.
I can't remember when a deletion was overturned by appeal, but it would pertain to procedural errors and an internal review, NEVER petitions and appeals from other players.

See the One Stop Rules Shop for more information, as always.