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Trolling and hijacking

Sdaeriji
17-11-2008, 01:35
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=572954&page=3

Heikoku doesn't like Hillary Clinton. We all understand this now. He's made it transparently clear across multiple threads for months, with blatant trolling and flaming of Clinton supporters, and generally anyone who wasn't as vehemently opposed to Clinton. Now we're here, two weeks after the election, and he's continuing with his vendetta against her.
Heikoku 2
17-11-2008, 01:37
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=572954&page=3

Heikoku doesn't like Hillary Clinton. We all understand this now. He's made it transparently clear across multiple threads for months, with blatant trolling and flaming of Clinton supporters, and generally anyone who wasn't as vehemently opposed to Clinton. Now we're here, two weeks after the election, and he's continuing with his vendetta against her.

TCT called me sexist first. And a case has yet to be made that I AM trolling for his answer or even flaming him any more than he is flaming me, as opposed to responding. Not only that, we ARE discussing HRC, which IS part of the thread subject.
Sdaeriji
17-11-2008, 01:48
I got called sexist in this forum, by utter morons incited by the bitch, WAY before I finally got fed up and called her a bitch for doing bitchy things (were she a male, I'd call "him" a dick, see?).

The thread is about her potential nomination for Secretary of State, not about calling Clinton supporters utter morons because of what they did during the primary campaign.
Heikoku 2
17-11-2008, 01:53
The thread is about her potential nomination for Secretary of State, not about calling Clinton supporters utter morons because of what they did during the primary campaign.

I actually didn't call all her supporters morons. I claimed I was called sexist by morons incited by her. Not the same, as you may realize, as it doesn't mean that all her supporters are morons, not even that all who called me sexist are morons.
Ardchoille
17-11-2008, 08:34
It's not off-topic to discuss Hillary Clinton in a thread about Hillary Clinton's suitability for an office.

It's not hijacking to declare personal feelings about her suitability for that office.

That said, Heikoku, this line --

I got called sexist in this forum, by utter morons incited by the bitch

-- is clearly referring to (some) fellow posters, is therefore trolling, and thus earns you yet another yellow card.

Now go away and try to play nicer, all of you.
Heikoku 2
17-11-2008, 12:41
It's not off-topic to discuss Hillary Clinton in a thread about Hillary Clinton's suitability for an office.

It's not hijacking to declare personal feelings about her suitability for that office.

That said, Heikoku, this line --



-- is clearly referring to (some) fellow posters, is therefore trolling, and thus earns you yet another yellow card.

Now go away and try to play nicer, all of you.

Okay...

What about calling me mysoginist for free then? That's the post that REALLY started the discussion.

BTW your continued borderline misogyny doesn't go unnoticed.

Which is quite ironic, considering Clinton's behavior inciting this kind of thing during the campaign is what led me to outright loathe her in the first place.

Edit: It may or not be a mistake on my part, ut I let my opponents set the level of debate.
Ardchoille
17-11-2008, 13:58
TCT called me sexist first. And a case has yet to be made that I AM trolling for his answer or even flaming him any more than he is flaming me, as opposed to responding. Not only that, we ARE discussing HRC, which IS part of the thread subject.

You don't appear to be clear yourself on whether TCT is flaming you or simply responding to you.

As his remark is addressed directly to you, the person, it could technically be a flame. But in the context of his discussion of your arguments, it's moot. I'm not taking any action on it because it is, at worst, borderline, and TCT does not have your post history of infringements for inappropriate language and flaming.

I do not propose to continue ruling on a series of tit-for-tat denunciations. Everyone, stick to the topic and discuss it without the dramatics, please.
Heikoku 2
17-11-2008, 17:40
Okay: Last unrelated point: One of the yellow cards, by Fris, was on a PALINdrome pun I made; Here are the contents of the messages regarding it, which you can check with Fris:

Dear Heikoku 2,

You have received a warning at Jolt Forums.

Reason:
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Inappropriate Language

Yer damn straight that you deserve a ban for that pun. Fortunately for, I'm stopping at a warning for inappropriate language, since that fits better than anything else.
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Original Post:
14125442
BTW... At the risk of earning (and deserving!) the first ban ever for a horrible, horrible pun...

The amount she stole, 21,012, is a PALINdrome...

Warnings serve as a reminder to you of the forum's rules, which you are expected to understand and follow.

All the best,
Jolt Forums

"Uhm, I'm assuming that wasn't an ACTUAL warning, was it? The "Palindrome" one? o_O" - Nah. Couldn't resist though.

Just to point out that at least one of the yellow cards isn't.
Frisbeeteria
17-11-2008, 19:15
Just to point out that at least one of the yellow cards isn't.

While true that I did send ONE as a joke, it's not something I intend to repeat.

A Yellow Card is intended to prod you gently back into line. A Red Card is more like a baton smashed against your knuckles. We use those only because we can't reach through your ISP and give you the smackdown you all so richly deserve.

* Awaits RSP / IP with longing and glee *

Remote Strangling Protocol over the Internet
Heikoku 2
17-11-2008, 19:23
While true that I did send ONE as a joke, it's not something I intend to repeat.

A Yellow Card is intended to prod you gently back into line. A Red Card is more like a baton smashed against your knuckles. We use those only because we can't reach through your ISP and give you the smackdown you all so richly deserve.

* Awaits RSP / IP with longing and glee *

Remote Strangling Protocol over the Internet

I know, Fris, I'm just pointing that out to show Ard that my record is one yellow card lighter than shown. :p
Dimesa
17-11-2008, 19:33
I liked Hillary.
Heikoku 2
17-11-2008, 19:36
I liked Hillary.

And yet you never called me sexist for disliking her. Good for you!

On a side note, that kind of post usually goes on General, rather than Moderation. In here we only discuss problems and questions about the forum and the game...
Ardchoille
17-11-2008, 23:59
Okay: Last unrelated point: One of the yellow cards, by Fris, was on a PALINdrome pun I made; Here are the contents of the messages regarding it, which you can check with Fris:<snip>
Just to point out that at least one of the yellow cards isn't.

I fall back on my grandmother's standard comment when she'd smacked the wrong grandchild: That's for all the times you didn't get one when you deserved it.

My apologies for that. I can only plead a senior moment there -- I had known about, and appreciated, that exchange.

I stand by the non-mathematical comments I made in the infraction message, though.
Heikoku 2
18-11-2008, 00:45
I fall back on my grandmother's standard comment when she'd smacked the wrong grandchild: That's for all the times you didn't get one when you deserved it.

My apologies for that. I can only plead a senior moment there -- I had known about, and appreciated, that exchange.

I stand by the non-mathematical comments I made in the infraction message, though.

Right. If it doesn't go on the record, it's fine. Otherwise, do tell, okay? o_O