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http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=568944

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=568943

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=568942

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=568941

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=568939


Fairly self-explanatory. I realize I'm much newer than him, but to my understanding, creating separate threads for this would constitute spam. Apologies if I'm mistaken.

Working on it.

Each fight is it's own RP and having them in the same Thread would only cause confusion.

I did this two years ago and nobody complained so it should be OK as long as others do not post in the closed Threads, as they already have. If it is closed to you then you can ignore it.

I have seen this in other Threads before to a degree so if I am not allowed to hold an event like this then people cannot make side Threads to hold discussions that could have been done in the main Thread cluttering and confusing things a seperate Thread could keep in order. A prime example are the many OOC Threads made in conjunction with IC Threads. The Flagship Contest is using a single OOC Thread by the way.

I will of course listen to the MOd decision but I believe I might be correct.

Regardless, there's no harm in bringing it up.

I would agree with you if the thread for each person you're making the "attention" to was a separate thread for those specific people; however, they aren't, and International Incidents becomes full of spam. Keep it all in one thread (which I've already merged together, and your participants can keep track of that one thread).

Just because something was 'okay' two years ago certainly doesn't mean that it's okay now. First and foremost, the moderators cannot see everything that has happened in that amount of time.

Edit: Keep it to one OOC and one IC thread please. That is the precedent on majority of the roleplays that I've seen. (personal experience, not in any way official).

Wow, that was a quick resolution...thanks Euroslavia.

They are a seperate Thread for thos two to compete on. Others can read them but ony those two people can post.

That is exactly what I have done. Each is only for two players to post upon, as you indicated.

Am I getting your decision wrong? It sounds like you described each Thread I made exactly as I have intended when I made them.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

They are a seperate Thread for thos two to compete on. Others can read them but ony those two people can post.

That is exactly what I have done. Each is only for two players to post upon, as you indicated.

Am I getting your decision wrong? It sounds like you described each Thread I made exactly as I have intended when I made them.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

I'm saying that you're welcome to keep the IC action all within one thread. I don't believe it really warrants a separate thread for each one-on-one action. It really should not be difficult, between the two players, to respond to each other. Making a separate thread for each battle, which most likely won't end up running past a few pages, at best, seems excessive.

*sigh*

Ok, can you please deleat the Threads and I will redo the action Thread for the fights to keep them seperate from the spectators in the origional Thread. Will that be OK?

I would like to keep each round in it's own Thread if possible.

If you are going to pull all of them, here are the ones not combined yet:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=568940
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=568938
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=568937

That should be all of them. Thanks for your help.

Thanks Trinity Prime.

I want to get everything worked out for when I hold the 2009 contest it will all be done right.

*sigh*

Ok, can you please deleat the Threads and I will redo the action Thread for the fights to keep them seperate from the spectators in the origional Thread. Will that be OK?

I would like to keep each round in it's own Thread if possible.

Sure.

Each round to it's own thread should be perfectly fine. That's where I can see it becoming extremely confusing.

If you are going to pull all of them, here are the ones not combined yet:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=568940
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=568938
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=568937

That should be all of them. Thanks for your help.

Thank you. All of them should be merged into one thread.


On a second note, would you (Balrogga) prefer if I just deleted the thread full of the notices to each two opponents so that you can create one new thread for the first round? This: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=568937

I'd make the thread by my own, and have it enough details to justify it being separate. Honestly, this ruling is the sort of thing that makes me wonder whether a separate forum would be better or not, and is based only on assumptions rather than facts. Normativeness should not make RPing inconvenient at such level, and if it's necessary that every thread starts with a 15-line introduction for it, so be it. What is undue is the seeming straightjacket that "RULES ARE RULES PERIOD" sometimes puts, in cases like this being counterproductive to RPing and ease of reading and connections, as I'll exemplify.

Lets imagine this.

a vs. b, c vs. d, e vs. f and g vs. j

e makes post #2 about their battle vs. f, then j and c make their respective posts about theirs. Then e replies to f , f replies again but neither of the ones rping with j and b replied yet, it's then that a makes his first post in the thread, then d replies c with his moves, when g gives his reply to f again and then a finally makes a first post.

Confusing? Well, that's very much what this normative decision shall lead to, and in this example there were only 4 matches. This ruling just made the very idea impractical or at least overbearing.

This place should be to put barriers on trolling, not on NS RPing.

I will obey. Right now I have to make a Thread for round 1 where I will have sixteen people posting their individual battles at once. That will be confusing.

I'd make the thread by my own, and have it enough details to justify it being separate. Honestly, this ruling is the sort of thing that makes me wonder whether a separate forum would be better or not, and is based only on assumptions rather than facts. Normativeness should not make RPing inconvenient at such level, and if it's necessary that every thread starts with a 15-line introduction for it, so be it. What is undue is the seeming straightjacket that "RULES ARE RULES PERIOD" sometimes puts, in cases like this being counterproductive to RPing and ease of reading and connections, as I'll exemplify.

Lets imagine this.

a vs. b, c vs. d, e vs. f and g vs. j

e makes post #2 about their battle vs. f, then j and c make their respective posts about theirs. Then e replies to f , f replies again but neither of the ones rping with j and b replied yet, it's then that a makes his first post in the thread, then d replies c with his moves, when g gives his reply to f again and then a finally makes a first post.

Confusing? Well, that's very much what this normative decision shall lead to, and in this example there were only 4 matches. This ruling just made the very idea impractical or at least overbearing.

This place should be to put barriers on trolling, not on NS RPing.

I can understand your concern; however, the potential that these threads could flood multiple other threads off of the first page, leaving this event to spam half of the front page of the forum is a main concern. I could safely related this to the copycat threads in General chat, when they become a new 'fad' and overwhelm the first page with a good majority of them. I understand the general basis behind a roleplay and a fad are largely different; however, the concept is the same. It's simply based on politeness.

Nowhere have I put a barrier on NS RP'ing. This decision has not changed how you roleplay or how this event will happen. The only difference is the location of where it is roleplayed.

I am retooling an offsite forum I have to accomidate this event. This should take care of all the issues being brought to light by this.

I apoligize for the trouble. It was never my intention for any of this to happen.



Can you please deleate the last remaining Thread?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=568937

I am retooling an offsite forum I have to accomidate this event. This should take care of all the issues being brought to light by this.

I apoligize for the trouble. It was never my intention for any of this to happen.



Can you please deleate the last remaining Thread?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=568937

Done.