NationStates Jolt Archive


My nations were deleted for no reason

Global Liberators
31-08-2008, 17:18
Greetings.

The nations
The Empire of The Reichsleiter
The Empire of The SS-Leutnant
The Greater German Reich of The IKPK Officer
The Empire of The Evil German Reich
The Empire of The Oberaufseherin
The Empire of The Reichskommissar
The Empire of The SS-Hauptmann
The Empire of Marinehelferinnen
The Empire of The Evil Gestapo
The Empire of A Nazi Eutopia
The Empire of The IKPK Agent
The Empire of Ze SS-Helferinnenkorps
The Empire of Marinehelferinnen

because The Empire of The SS-Leutnant was reported for having posted recruitment advertisements for The Greater German Reich on game-created Regional Civil Headquarters twice within 24 hours. This is however incorrect.
The Empire of The Evil German Reich posted recruitment advertisements for Ze Evil Greater Nazi Reich on game-created Regional Civil Headquarters less than 24 hours before.

The rules say nothing about the same player not being allowed to post recruitment advertisements for different regions within 24 hours.

Let me quote from http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416023

AdSpam: Spamming other people's regional messageboards (RMB) with adverts for your region. The only places where you are allowed to put advertisements are:

* the Gameplay Forum (they will be deleted if posted elsewhere, as being polite hasn't worked),
* The regional messageboards of the game-created regions
o Feeder regions, defined as The Pacific, The North Pacific, The East Pacific, The South Pacific, and The West Pacific. Note that it is not legal to advertise in copycat regions like "West Pacific",
o The Rejected Realms and Lazarus,
o Official Warzones.
And even then, don't over-do it. One ad per advertised region (NOT per posting nation) in any 24-hour period is the rule. Don't post if an ad for your region is still visible, even if it's been more than 24 hours.(Emphasis mine)

I apologize for bringing this issue onto the forum, however, I tried sending a request to moderators using my nation The Free Land of Fruited Land of Action, which was subsequently deleted too.

I implore you to restore my nations.
Leistung
31-08-2008, 17:29
Probably because you wrote heil hitler in giant letters. And you're apparently a neo-nazi. That could have something to do with it.
Global Liberators
31-08-2008, 17:45
Probably because you wrote heil hitler in giant letters. And you're apparently a neo-nazi. That could have something to do with it.It is not against the rules though and was tolerated by NationStates Moderators until then.
Snafturi
31-08-2008, 18:28
From the OSRS:
Acceptable or Not? A Rough Guide
A swastika: not acceptable (Yes, it was used by Buddhists in the third Century, etc, etc, but that's not what it represents now. To the vast majority of people, the swastika represents the Holocaust. A nation with a swastika appears to be endorsing that event; that's malicious and has the primary effect of offending.)
A swastika with little flowers and happy faces, on a nation called "The Friendly Nazis": fine
A swastika with little flowers and happy faces, on a nation called "The Friendly Nazis" that has the slogan: "We kill Jews with kindness": not fine
A flag of Hitler looking all stern: no (Only one interpretation available there.)
A flag of Hitler wearing an apron with fake boobs that says "Kiss the Cook": fine
Actual boobs: no (I know, I know, who gets offended by breasts? But it's only fun to post them because it's naughty, and that's why it's banned)
The iron cross: my feeling is it's usually okay, because I don't think most people even recognize it. But if the nation also had a name, slogan, etc, that seemed to be glorifying Bad Things, then no
That SS lightning slash thing: no
Something that looks a lot like a swastika if you squint just right: mods would need to judge the intent. If it's just a blatant attempt to get around the swastika ban, then no. If it seems coincidental -- e.g. nothing else about the nation seems to endorse violence against real people -- then it's fine.
A swastika and it's on a clearly pro-Nazi nation but honest it's just roleplaying: no. Sorry, you might be RPing but if that's not obvious to other people, then the primary effect of your flag will be to offend and upset, even though you don't intend it.
The hammer and sickle: fine (Yes, I'm aware of the hundreds of millions of deaths. But when people look at the hammer and sickle, they think communism, not mass graves. If you can point me at a survey that shows otherwise, then we'll deem this one malicious, too. But until then, it's just a Soviet flag.)
The Japanese flag, or the American one, or the British one, or... : fine (Most people don't primarily associate any of these with death or violence.)
The Japanese flag on a nation with the slogan, "We bombed your grandparents": no
To make that point again: we don't ban particular patterns of colored pixels, we ban any content that is malicious in nature. The mods' job is to judge which is which, according to guidelines like this.

And because I know this is going to come up again: I realize that you can point out a bunch of different groups that committed terrible acts, and yet we're not banning their flags. That's because we're not banning the symbols of every group that scored a particular body count; we're prohibiting content that is malicious in nature and to most people will have the primary effect of offending. Not a few people, not just you, but most people. That's the criteria.
That might explain the deletions?
Global Liberators
31-08-2008, 18:38
From the OSRS:

That might explain the deletions?Thanks for pasting that passage, but no. There were no swastikas, no pictures of Hitler, no naked breasts and no "SS lightning slash".
Katganistan
31-08-2008, 18:49
No, it's because you're a returned DOS player.
Global Liberators
31-08-2008, 19:03
No, it's because you're a returned DOS player.What is a DOS player?
Pan-Arab Barronia
31-08-2008, 21:44
What is a DOS player?

Delete on Sight. Evidently you've angered the Moderators in an almighty fashion - they don't, apparently, want you on NationStates and your nations will be Delete(d) on Sight.
Global Liberators
31-08-2008, 22:26
Delete on Sight. Evidently you've angered the Moderators in an almighty fashion - they don't, apparently, want you on NationStates and your nations will be Delete(d) on Sight.Thank you for this clarification. This begs the question however, why NationStates Moderators tolerated my nations for several months, even after multiple bilateral contacts.
Leistung
31-08-2008, 22:33
Because there are like 75,000 nations. They aren't gods.

...at least, I don't think they are...
Global Liberators
31-08-2008, 22:46
Because there are like 75,000 nations. They aren't gods.

...at least, I don't think they are...Perhaps not. Does anyone have any idea whether such a delete on sight order will carry on to NationStates 2?
Katganistan
31-08-2008, 23:22
Yes, they do.