NationStates Jolt Archive

First off, this is not meant to be a debate thread on the topic I'm about to present, so please, MODS ONLY! I'm also not necessarily reporting Fass, because I truly do not know site policy on the subject. Here's the post in question:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13766726&postcount=16

As you can see, in his sig, Fass calls himself a "fag" in a joking, playful manner. Now granted no one can know for sure, but from the opinions presented one can assume that Fass is either homosexual himself or very pro-homosexual rights. (I really don't troll NSGers personal lives, sorry if my info is a bit off, Fass.)

Is it acceptable for him to use a slur such as that in jest, especially in his sig since sigs have been held to a higher standard than posts? To what extent are we allowed to use terms such as that, and the "dreaded" n-word and whatnot, in comedic or joking forms? It causes somewhat of a problem, since it is hate speach being used in a very obviously not hateful way.

Frankly, is this legit or not? The situation just made me think, and I couldn't for the life of me think what NationStates' official policy would be on the topic.

I am speechless at this. I truly am. Steel Butterfly... get over yourself.

Seriously, if I have to tell someone to get over themselves... I have no words. This is a mind-numbingly inane complaint created for no other reason than for complaining itself. There should be a rule against frivolous modabeeing, there really ought to be since it seems to have become a form of trolling/griefing by mod-proxy, and you should have the book thrown at you.

Seriously Fass I just wanted to know. You having "fag" in your info doesn't matter to me, but a clarification on rules is never a bad thing. Chill :)

Seriously Fass I just wanted to know. You having "fag" in your info doesn't matter to me, but a clarification on rules is never a bad thing. Chill :)

"it seems to have become a form of trolling/griefing by mod-proxy"

Do not think you have me fooled for a second as to your true motives. I see right through you. Hopefully, the mods will also, if they haven't already, sooner rather than later.

Also, Fass, speaking of getting over one's self...

"Seriously, if I have to tell someone to get over themselves..."

Don't you ever get tired of failing to read threads? Perhaps if you had become tired of it, you would not just have failed to read my post in trying to make that dull "barb" of yours I had already made myself (I'm gloriously self-deprecating that way, I know - one of a myriad of my congenial traits that I love having), but also not failed to see the "mods only" request in the OP. You do know what "mods only" means, no? It means "thread-starter, the accused, and mods only". That means, last time I checked, not you. So, you and Ruffy and the rest of your little "Generalite Maffia" clique best run along now.

Fass is obviously expressing pride for his sexuality, I don't see where or how he is using it derogative way.

Honestly...

Read my post. I never said he was using it in a derogative way. I was asking a question because it's a fine line and I wanted that line defined.

And please people...I said Mods Only...

First off, this is not meant to be a debate thread on the topic I'm about to present, so please, MODS ONLY! I'm also not necessarily reporting Fass, because I truly do not know site policy on the subject. Here's the post in question:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13766726&postcount=16

As you can see, in his sig, Fass calls himself a "fag" in a joking, playful manner. Now granted no one can know for sure, but from the opinions presented one can assume that Fass is either homosexual himself or very pro-homosexual rights. (I really don't troll NSGers personal lives, sorry if my info is a bit off, Fass.)

Is it acceptable for him to use a slur such as that in jest, especially in his sig since sigs have been held to a higher standard than posts? To what extent are we allowed to use terms such as that, and the "dreaded" n-word and whatnot, in comedic or joking forms? It causes somewhat of a problem, since it is hate speach being used in a very obviously not hateful way.

Frankly, is this legit or not? The situation just made me think, and I couldn't for the life of me think what NationStates' official policy would be on the topic.

Context, as always, is key. As I recall sometime last year I had "fag enabler" in my sig as a reference to the hateful Westboro Baptist Churchgoer's foaming at the mouth "God Hates the US because it supports fags!" rants.

Clearly, in this context, it is not meant to be offensive.

Now, can we please have a bit less snarling at each other?

Also, this is MODS ONLY.