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Due to debate over at the Freedom of Speech Act (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=544375), it was determined that it may have been duped due to Article 2 of the UBR:

Article 2 -- All human beings have the right to express themselves through speech and through the media without any interference.

So, how useful is UBR? Is it assumed that all nations must follow UBR no matter what (even when dealing with national security), and that therefore, censorship for ANY REASON is banned? Or is it that UBR is merely an advisory document, recommending, but not really doing anything?

Since FSA's goal is to basically declare that human beings can express themselves, and that the government cannot suppress free speech unless in certain circumstances such as violence, it is rather likely that if UBR is all powerful, FSA would merely just be a duplicate and therefore not really needed. But if UBR is merely a 'encourages' resolution, then FSA can exist. I was led to believe it was the former, so, Article 2 really shocks me in its broadness and not allowing for any valid exceptions.

I'll need a mod ruling, and whatever the mods say, we'll agree to it.

Why is this in Moderation? Mods are to be called for if someone broke the rules of the forum or something.....If you want to discuss the UBR and its intricacies, then go make a thread in General about it. Don't bother the Mods.

My two cents.

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to prove here, but this isn't a place for debate. This forum is specifically a place for questions about our rules and to report those who break them. If you want a debate over this, take it to the General forum.

Wait, wait, no.

I didn't mean to start a debate. No, no. I just wanted to see what the mods' ruling is on this. Is the FSA a duplicate of the UBR? That's was all, judging from the fact the FSA regulates censorship while the UBR prohibits all restrictions on free speech. I just laid out the possible ways of looking at it, but I wanted the mods to come in to say what is right. I didn't want a debate at all. I just don't really know.

A legality ruling, I think.

Wait, wait, no.

I didn't mean to start a debate. No, no. I just wanted to see what the mods' ruling is on this. Is the FSA a duplicate of the UBR? That's was all, judging from the fact the FSA regulates censorship while the UBR prohibits all restrictions on free speech. I just laid out the possible ways of looking at it, but I wanted the mods to come in to say what is right. I didn't want a debate at all. I just don't really know.

A legality ruling, I think.

No, this isn't a legality ruling. This has nothing to do with NationStates rules, as it clearly isn't within our rules thread. As I stated previously, this is a debate topic, and has no need for a moderator ruling. Take it to General.

Actually, he really is asking for a Mod ruling. It's just specifically a question about the UN proposal rules and how they apply to certain resolutions rather than more general forum or game rules.

That said, please keep it to the thread in the UN forum where it has already been mentioned. The issue isn't currently significant enough to warrant a thread on it in Moderation.