NationStates Jolt Archive


Blackmailing the mods

Ifreann
13-11-2007, 13:12
Or trying to at least.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13212110&postcount=271

Now, dear mods, or YOU delete the http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542000 posting, or I send the link to www.pcc.org.uk.

Though on the plus side, I don't think the PCC can do anything to jolt.
Kryozerkia
13-11-2007, 13:33
Edwinasia has just proven his own hypocrisy. He made a thread insulting the mods yet he wants them to do exactly what he's whining about. He can't have his cake and eat it too.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 13:33
No I'm doing my duty as a citizen.

If you don't do what's possible to interrupt a crime then you could be sentenced as well.

And what do you know about law, anyway, wiseguys?
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 13:35
Edwinasia has just proven his own hypocrisy. He made a thread insulting the mods yet he wants them to do exactly what he's whining about. He can't have his cake and eat it too.

Where did I insult them?
Ifreann
13-11-2007, 13:38
<snip>

I'm not going to get into an arguement about whether that thread about Jews broke any laws or not. This is not the time and most assuredly not the place.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 13:45
I'm not going to get into an arguement about whether that thread about Jews broke any laws or not. This is not the time and most assuredly not the place.

Ifrean, if you say 'Blacks are smarter then whites due their genetics', then you're performing racism.

If you say that 'Jews are smarter then anyone due their genetics' then you're performing racism.

You can say without doing any racism by yourself 'Some people say that jews are smarter then anyone due their genetics'

If you perform racism, then you're breaking a law and you could be fined.

I reported the specific posting from its early start, the mods ignored my warnings. They even banned me, 'cause I found it disgusting that racist talks were allowed on the board and I expressed this .

Now or they delete it and everything is fine.

Or I send the link to a real authority.

Whatever the consequences are...

Simple and clear.
Dryks Legacy
13-11-2007, 13:48
No I'm doing my duty as a citizen.

If you don't do what's possible to interrupt a crime then you could be sentenced as well.

And what do you know about law, anyway, wiseguys?

That's quite a different tune from that thread you started. If you're going to start a thread about how you want a place with more freedom of speech, and then you turn around and in the same thread, start trying uphold the law, not the rules but the law specifically.

Do you want a forum that is respecting total freedom of speech?

Why not having a separated forum on the main page?

A freedom of speech zone that is dark, sinister, dirty and MOD free.

It would be a nice experiment and I’m not sure if it would work, such an anarchistic forum…

What do you think?

There are good reasons to have a moderated section:

• It prevent flames
• They kick out spam
• They delete illegal or unlawful things (such as promoting child porn or racism)
• …

And that’s all good.

In my opinion in a moderator-poor channel, these entire things should continue.

But in the moderator-rich channels they do more:

• Allow racism, ‘cause it fits in their line of thinking, like: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542000
• Delete threads ‘cause they just don’t like it
• Adjust polls, like they did with the one in this thread (the last option, wasn’t created by me)
• Protect ‘old’ posters, by allowing that they flame or perform personal insults, which is strictly forbidden for new ones.
• Discourage new ones to have a different opinion as the average moderator his/her opinion.
Kryozerkia
13-11-2007, 13:48
Where did I insult them?

I believe it happened over the course of your thread about a forum with true "freedom of speech". I'll leave it at that.

I find it amusing that you complain about racism and how it's illegal yet you're threatening mods... (when asking/appealing could have worked too)
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 13:53
That's quite a different tune from that thread you started. If you're going to start a thread about how you want a place with more freedom of speech, and then you turn around and in the same thread, start trying uphold the law, not the rules but the law specifically.

• They delete illegal or unlawful things (such as promoting child porn or racism)
• …

And that’s all good.

ANd I state that:

But in the moderator-rich channels they do more:

• Allow racism, ‘cause it fits in their line of thinking, like: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542000


I still aprove this one.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 13:53
I believe it happened over the course of your thread about a forum with true "freedom of speech". I'll leave it at that.

I find it amusing that you complain about racism and how it's illegal yet you're threatening mods... (when asking/appealing could have worked too)

I appealed for it three times...
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 13:54
Will we try it out, send the link, and see what will happen?

I know already what will happen...
The Most Glorious Hack
13-11-2007, 13:56
This is under review.

-The Most Glorious Hack
NationStates Game Moderator
The Most Glorious Hack
13-11-2007, 14:05
On second thought, never mind. Go ahead and report it, Edwinasia.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 14:07
On second thought, never mind. Go ahead and report it, Edwinasia.

Thanks.
Frisbeeteria
13-11-2007, 14:33
On second thought, never mind. Go ahead and report it, Edwinasia.Thanks.
Oh, and by the way ...when they ignore or deny your claim on the basis that neither NationStates nor Jolt are journalists nor media companies, nor are our posters doing anything illegal per the site Terms and Conditions, nor are any of them breaking any laws in any relevant location ... you can come here and publicly apologize. We've about had it with your constant ability to be offended by anything that annoys you.

You should also be aware that our litigation policy is to deny access to our resources until and unless the litigation is resolved in the favor of the complainant. Next time you try to threaten us with ANYTHING, you're gone. Permanently.


(Unless, of course, a court with jurisdiction decides otherwise ... which has incidentally never happened.)
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 16:34
Oh, and by the way ...when they ignore or deny your claim on the basis that neither NationStates nor Jolt are journalists nor media companies, nor are our posters doing anything illegal per the site Terms and Conditions, nor are any of them breaking any laws in any relevant location ... you can come here and publicly apologize. We've about had it with your constant ability to be offended by anything that annoys you.

You should also be aware that our litigation policy is to deny access to our resources until and unless the litigation is resolved in the favor of the complainant. Next time you try to threaten us with ANYTHING, you're gone. Permanently.


(Unless, of course, a court with jurisdiction decides otherwise ...
which has incidentally never happened.)


'you're gone', do you mean literally? Are you treating me with death or a very bad accident?

You're just making it worse.

You are treating me that I should accept your racism?

You are treating me, that I may not use my civil rights?

And IMHO, apologies have to come from another side.
Khadgar
13-11-2007, 16:45
'you're gone', do you mean literally? Are you treating me with death or a very bad accident?

You're just making it worse.

You are treating me that I should accept your racism?

You are treating me, that I may not use my civil rights?

And IMHO, apologies have to come from another side.

Lovely know you, ta!
Skinny87
13-11-2007, 16:53
...and good luck to you on this.

You realize this is insane, correct? If Stormfront can't be sued or litigated against for what goes on there, then Nationstates is hardly going to be litigated against. You might want to research the poster 'Hataria' to see some precedent...ie nothing happening.

But really...what makes you think this could possibly be a good idea?
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 17:03
...and good luck to you on this.

You realize this is insane, correct? If Stormfront can't be sued or litigated against for what goes on there, then Nationstates is hardly going to be litigated against. You might want to research the poster 'Hataria' to see some precedent...ie nothing happening.

But really...what makes you think this could possibly be a good idea?

Other UK boards will remove racist lines when they are asked for.

Want to bet?
Skinny87
13-11-2007, 17:04
Other UK boards will remove racist lines when they are asked for.

Want to bet?

Oh, really? Got any links?

You also realise that the PCC doesn't investigate single cases, as other posters have said, right?
Ifreann
13-11-2007, 17:10
'you're gone', do you mean literally? Are you treating me with death or a very bad accident?

You're just making it worse.
That's very clearly not what he's saying. If anyone is risking legal action here it's you. Anyone know about how legal blackmail is?

You are treating me that I should accept your racism?
Fris isn't a racist.......

You are treating me, that I may not use my civil rights?
Nowhere in the world do you have the civil right to blackmail others.
And IMHO, apologies have to come from another side.
Guess you're wrong about that too.
HC Eredivisie
13-11-2007, 17:12
'you're gone', do you mean literally? Are you treating me with death or a very bad accident?

You're just making it worse.

You are treating me that I should accept your racism?

You are treating me, that I may not use my civil rights?

And IMHO, apologies have to come from another side.

'Gone' like in 'IP ban', perhaps?
Telros
13-11-2007, 17:13
Seriously, this "crusade" of yours is just plain ridiculous and has provided me with plenty of laughs.

OH NOES, THERE IS RACISM ON TEH INTARWEBZ!1010101010!

Look, dude, they said this isn't a media site, its a fricking game/discussion/roleplaying sight. We rp racism a lot as we take a realistic view of the world, which you need to do. There will always be people with racism, period. We have several of those people who pretend they are so they can troll or really are and like to argue with all us "liberal" people. It doesn't matter, you say you want freedom of speech on this board? Um, we pretty much do, with people stating they believe Jews are superior or blacks are better than whites, whatever.

WHO GIVES A FLYING F**K? Its the internet, if it bothers you so much, then LEAVE. The Mods are busy people, with their own lives, involving work and college, not to mention the legion of tasks they have to do maintaining the bandwidth of the site, cleaning up old threads, keeping the peace, and doing punishments. They are not Gods who can be everywhere at once, nor should they be. Some of us should come around and help restrain some of our more avid posters, but when they go into a literary rage, like you yourself have done, then the mods get called in.

Also, going by your line of thought, we could get YOU in trouble for blackmail, which I am sure is against plenty of laws as well. But its simple fricking WORDS! They don't matter unless you MAKE them matter. Most of us here don't like and shun the crazy racists on this forum, ANYWAYS.

If you don't like it, tough. We are not changing things for one person, a new one at that, when this system has been working for YEARS. Other boards may do different, whoop-de-doo. Get a life, and find something else to do then trying to f**k with other people's sites.

Thats my two cents, I suggest we let the mods discuss the situation with this guy, although he's crazy enough about his cause that we could blab till the end of time and he will still be the civil rights zealot that he is.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 17:20
That's very clearly not what he's saying. If anyone is risking legal action here it's you. Anyone know about how legal blackmail is?


Fris isn't a racist.......


Nowhere in the world do you have the civil right to blackmail others.

Guess you're wrong about that too.

Asking one not to steal your car or else you have to call the police is not blackmail, wiseguy.
Ifreann
13-11-2007, 17:22
Asking one not to steal your car or else you have to call the police is not blackmail, wiseguy.

Meh, I'm not a lawyer. Nor are you, I believe.
Telros
13-11-2007, 17:22
Threatening them that you'll go tell on the site unless they do something sounds a LOT like blackmail. Saying they better do something or you will do *blank* IS BLACKMAIL.
Kryozerkia
13-11-2007, 17:24
'you're gone', do you mean literally? Are you treating me with death or a very bad accident?

You're just making it worse.

You are treating me that I should accept your racism?

You are treating me, that I may not use my civil rights?

And IMHO, apologies have to come from another side.

You're dealing with people whose first language is primarily English, and are used to loaded phrases like "you're gone". This is not a threat, it means that you're going to be forced to leave through a DEAT and eventually a DoS. The actions that are proposed are standard actions.

And of course "you're gone" is literal because you're not going to be welcomed here any more given your general attitude problem.

If there really was a case for racism and not a discussion of racial qualities based on what we observe and know (using stats for example), the mods would have acting accordingly. However, there was no dictionary definition case of racism with the thread in question.

There is no one saying you can't exercise your civil rights. However, those rights do not afford you the right to threaten and blackmail people. The irony being that despite what you want to achieve (in this case, getting a ruling on a supposedly racist thread), you're using what would be considered highly questionable if not illegal actions to achieve your objective.

If you want to know what true racism is, go to StormFront. Then come back here and you'll realise there is a true difference. If you don't, well then that's just sad.

As for your retort to Ifreann using your example of theft, that is not the same as threatening action on something that is not illegal. You talk about freedom of expression, yet you're aching to curb a discussion that is a far cry from racism. Racial discussions are NOT racism. If they were, then saying that you're of X race and you support the ethnic nation of X that somehow X race is inherently superior to others.
Jonathan Castro
13-11-2007, 17:28
No I'm doing my duty as a citizen.

If you don't do what's possible to interrupt a crime then you could be sentenced as well.

And what do you know about law, anyway, wiseguys?

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/245/superretardaq0.jpg

-_-
Vangary
13-11-2007, 17:30
Edwinasia...seriously...you need to lighten up, or grow up. I don't care which.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 17:30
You're dealing with people whose first language is primarily English, and are used to loaded phrases like "you're gone". This is not a threat, it means that you're going to be forced to leave through a DEAT and eventually a DoS. The actions that are proposed are standard actions.

And of course "you're gone" is literal because you're not going to be welcomed here any more given your general attitude problem.

If there really was a case for racism and not a discussion of racial qualities based on what we observe and know (using stats for example), the mods would have acting accordingly. However, there was no dictionary definition case of racism with the thread in question.

There is no one saying you can't exercise your civil rights. However, those rights do not afford you the right to threaten and blackmail people. The irony being that despite what you want to achieve (in this case, getting a ruling on a supposedly racist thread), you're using what would be considered highly questionable if not illegal actions to achieve your objective.

If you want to know what true racism is, go to StormFront. Then come back here and you'll realise there is a true difference. If you don't, well then that's just sad.

Hitler and his boys were worse. I should focus on them.

I know.
Skinny87
13-11-2007, 17:31
Hitler and his boys were worse. I should focus on them.

I know.

Look, this is absurd. In no way is Nationstates a racist forum, and the threads you've highlighted are not racist in any way. As to the issue of free speech and civil rights, this is a private online forum - your civil rights don't effectively exist, and are at the whim of the owner. Thus, you can't use the 'Civil Rights' card.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 17:31
Edwinasia...seriously...you need to lighten up, or grow up. I don't care which.

For a first time user, you know the way around in the house. :)
Vangary
13-11-2007, 17:34
For a first time user, you know the way around in the house. :)

I'm not a first time user. In the course of the near two years I've been here, I've had near to 80 nations with at least 1500 posts between them on almost every forum involving nationstates (I.I, General, Moderation,Un, etc...).

I have 28 surviving nations, but hopefully within the next twelve days this will shrink to just five.

[Kryozerkia knows me, we had an incident involving one of my nations having a name almost exactly like his, it was resolved but I got tired of that nation as well and made this one. My most prominent nation was Undbagarten with 700 something posts (it was tragically deleted because of my noobish behavior) and now I frequently post as Blasphemous Priest. Some people here might have heard of it.]

{If you don't believe, check out the region entitled "My Rejected Nations" every nation in there but one is mine. Vangary is not in there because I am still using it.}
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 17:41
I believe you.

I'm not a first time user. In the course of the near two years I've been here, I've had near to 80 nations with at least 1500 posts between them on almost every forum involving nationstates (I.I, General, Moderation,Un, etc...).

I have 28 surviving nations, but hopefully within the next twelve days this will shrink to just five.

[Kryozerkia knows me, we had an incident involving one of my nations having a name almost exactly like his, it was resolved but I got tired of that nation as well and made this one. My most prominent nation was Undbagarten with 700 something posts (it was tragically deleted because of my noobish behavior) and now I frequently post as Blasphemous Priest. Some people here might have heard of it.]

{If you don't believe, check out the region entitled "My Rejected Nations" every nation in there but one is mine. Vangary is not in there because I am still using it.}
Blasphemous Priest
13-11-2007, 17:44
I believe you.

I'm sure you believe me.

*wait* No you don't. Or am I just interpreting your sarcasm where it is not present?
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 17:44
Look, this is absurd. In no way is Nationstates a racist forum, and the threads you've highlighted are not racist in any way. As to the issue of free speech and civil rights, this is a private online forum - your civil rights don't effectively exist, and are at the whim of the owner. Thus, you can't use the 'Civil Rights' card.

It's not private, but public accessible by just anyone.

And even in real private clubs you can't do racism if you want to. Only, over there the evidence is harder to find.

In 2 hours I found about 14 racist postings HERE...

Please, be silent, you know nothing, you're just lulling.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 17:45
I'm sure you believe me.

*wait* No you don't. Or am I just interpreting your sarcasm where it is not present?

I really believe you.
Tagmatium
13-11-2007, 17:45
It's not private, but public accessible by just anyone.

And even in real private clubs you can't do racism if you want to. Only, over there the evidence is harder to find.

In 2 hours I found about 14 racist postings HERE...

Please, be silent, you know nothing, you're just lulling.
It is a privately owned forum, so their rules apply. It's the same on every forum, unless they're breaking the terms and conditions of the forum's hoster.
Vangary
13-11-2007, 17:47
I'm sure you believe me.

*wait* No you don't. Or am I just interpreting your sarcasm where it is not present?

He should be me. But I don't think he does.

See. Blasphemous Priest, Vangary, Kyrozarkia, Carthacova, Cathargova, Eupharcova, North Aezoria, Ibinius, General Industries, Thacea, Thacia, etc...we are all the same, created on the same three or four IP addresses. I am sure the mods could verify this.
Deus Malum
13-11-2007, 17:49
*polite cough*

The last time I checked, this was not General.
Skinny87
13-11-2007, 17:50
It's not private, but public accessible by just anyone.

And even in real private clubs you can't do racism if you want to. Only, over there the evidence is harder to find.

In 2 hours I found about 14 racist postings HERE...

Please, be silent, you know nothing, you're just lulling.

Again, it is a privately-owned forum and thus you must abide by the rules of the owner. So again, you can't claim a breach of civil rights.

I'd also like to see these 'racist posts'. From years of experience the Mods are generally pretty good at shutting down racist threads, so they can't be that bad or they'd be gone.
Blasphemous Priest
13-11-2007, 17:50
I really believe you.

Good. Blasphemous Priest away!

*points fist in the air...nothing happens* :( *takes the walk of shame*
Kryozerkia
13-11-2007, 17:51
I'm not a first time user. In the course of the near two years I've been here, I've had near to 80 nations with at least 1500 posts between them on almost every forum involving nationstates (I.I, General, Moderation,Un, etc...).

I have 28 surviving nations, but hopefully within the next twelve days this will shrink to just five.

[Kryozerkia knows me, we had an incident involving one of my nations having a name almost exactly like his, it was resolved but I got tired of that nation as well and made this one. My most prominent nation was Undbagarten with 700 something posts (it was tragically deleted because of my noobish behavior) and now I frequently post as Blasphemous Priest. Some people here might have heard of it.]

{If you don't believe, check out the region entitled "My Rejected Nations" every nation in there but one is mine. Vangary is not in there because I am still using it.}

Yes, a good fellow you are. Such manners. :) I was impressed that it was handled so well.

And yes, this guy has been around a while so he's no greenie. :)
Blasphemous Priest
13-11-2007, 17:52
*polite cough*

The last time I checked, this was not General.

Your right. It was a boring conversation anyway. I'm off.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 17:53
It is a privately owned forum, so their rules apply. It's the same on every forum, unless they're breaking the terms and conditions of the forum's hoster.

Well try to start up a PRIVATE forum where you promote child porn.

Don't think you come away with "Hey it's private here!"

Wahahahahaha!
Blasphemous Priest
13-11-2007, 17:56
Yes, a good fellow you are. Such manners. :) I was impressed that it was handled so well.

And yes, this guy has been around a while so he's no greenie. :)

Why thank you. Your nice too. {Oh, and just in case you missed the part around the middle, I stopped using Cyrozarkeria or whatever I called it too. Vangary is my new experiment now.}

I'm off! *again*
Skinny87
13-11-2007, 17:57
*polite cough*

The last time I checked, this was not General.

Yes, DM is right. Perhaps we should all await either a Mod decision or the outcome of Edwinasia's complaint.
Blasphemous Priest
13-11-2007, 17:59
I love it when people see another reality :p

Alright. Alright. You have my attention.

Why'd you reply to your own post. It looks like you are calling yourself delusional.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 18:00
Alright. Alright. You have my attention.

Why'd you reply to your own post. It looks like you are calling yourself delusional.

What are you talking about?

I never did that ;)
Blasphemous Priest
13-11-2007, 18:01
What are you talking about?

I never did that ;)

Rrrriiiigghht.

:)
Blasphemous Priest
13-11-2007, 18:02
Yes, DM is right. Perhaps we should all await either a Mod decision or the outcome of Edwinasia's complaint.

Correct you are.

*commences waiting. Until the end of break if need be. At which point BP must log off you face a pile of shit from the boss*
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 18:05
Lets move to the General section...
Whereyouthinkyougoing
13-11-2007, 18:09
Well try to start up a PRIVATE forum where you promote child porn.

Don't think you come away with "Hey it's private here!"

Wahahahahaha!

Yes. That would be because child porn is illegal while racism is not. It's not. It's really, really not. You have written about a billion posts saying that it is but that doesn't change the fact that it is not.

Racism is not illegal. Period. Discrimination on basis of race is illegal in many countries. Incitement to racial hatred is illegal in some countries. Insulting a person with racist slurs is illegal (although that's the case for any kind of harsh insult, they can all get you sued).

But being a racist or saying racist things or posting a racist thread about how "All Arabs are terrorists" or "All blacks are drug dealers" or "The Holocaust never happened" is NOT illegal* and it's also not against the rules of this site.

Is it disgusting? Absolutely. Would I rather not see threads like that? Absolutely. Are they illegal, either by law or according to the site rules? Absolutely not.

Unless such threads are posted in a clearly defamatory, trollish, flamebaiting manner, the moderators won't delete them just on basis of being racist alone.

Does this mean that you can post a lot of racist things here as long as you post them in a "civil manner"? Absolutely. Is that disgusting? Absolutely, in my opinion. Is it illegal? Absolutely not.

So get it in your head already. RACISM = NOT ILLEGAL.

Sheesh.



*The latter would be illegal in my home country but not in the UK (or in almost all other countries in the world, for that matter) and not under the rules of this site, and those are what counts here.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 18:16
Why is it not?

'Cause some German who can't laugh says so? :)

I'm pretty sure. 100% that it is not legal in UK.

We'll see soon.

xxx

Yes. That would be because child porn is illegal while racism is not. It's not. It's really, really not. You have written about a billion posts saying that it is but that doesn't change the fact that it is not.

Racism is not illegal. Period. Discrimination on basis of race is illegal in many countries. Incitement to racial hatred is illegal in some countries. Insulting a person with racist slurs is illegal (although that's the case for any kind of harsh insult, they can all get you sued).

But being a racist or saying racist things or posting a racist thread about how "All Arabs are terrorists" or "All blacks are drug dealers" or "The Holocaust never happened" is NOT illegal* and it's also not against the rules of this site.

Is it disgusting? Absolutely. Would I rather not see threads like that? Absolutely. Are they illegal, either by law or according to the site rules? Absolutely not.

Unless such threads are posted in a clearly defamatory, trollish, flamebaiting manner, the moderators won't delete them just on basis of being racist alone.

Does this mean that you can post a lot of racist things here as long as you post them in a "civil manner"? Absolutely. Is that disgusting? Absolutely, in my opinion. Is it illegal? Absolutely not.

So get it in your head already. RACISM = NOT ILLEGAL.

Sheesh.



*The latter would be illegal in my home country but not in the UK (or in almost all other countries in the world, for that matter) and not under the rules of this site, and those are what counts here.
Honourable Angels
13-11-2007, 18:21
Why is it not?

'Cause some German who can't laugh says so? :)

I'm pretty sure. 100% that it is not legal in UK.

We'll see soon.

xxx

I love you too, d-harling
xxx

>.>

I think he has split personality disorder (is that schizophrenia? ((sp?)
JuNii
13-11-2007, 18:27
You know Edwinasia,

If you don't like how the forum is set up, go. No one is forcing you to stay, and the Mods can certainly kick you out. the fact that they haven't is proof that they are fair and they give everyone alot of chances to learn the rules.

If you don't like how some threads are, then don't enter those threads. no one is forcing you to read things you don't want to read.

If you don't like some posters, then put them on Ignore. That's why it's there.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 18:32
For the mods.

Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against you or your work.

I don't feel comfortable by seeing racist lines and I'll use what's within my powers to get rid of it.

When I see a racist graffiti on some wall in my street, I just buy some paint.

When I see it on a board, I ask politely to remove it.
I did it several times.

So be a sport and don't complain later.

And Frisbeeteria, NationStates Moderator Team, "I'm gone", isn't?

I remember that one. You can kill my nation, but not my mind.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 18:34
I love you too, d-harling
xxx

>.>

I think he has split personality disorder (is that schizophrenia? ((sp?)

No. Be silent about things you don't know anything about

Schizopherenia and a personality disorder are not the same.

Why do so many people here talk about subjects they don't know shit? :)
Honourable Angels
13-11-2007, 18:35
For the mods.

Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against you or your work.

I don't feel comfortable by seeing racist lines and I'll use what's within my powers to get rid of it.

When I see a racist graffiti on some wall in my street, I just buy some paint.

When I see it on a board, I ask politely to remove it.
I did it several times.

So be a sport and don't complain later.

And Frisbeeteria, NationStates Moderator Team, "I'm gone", isn't?

I remember that one.

Think of it this way, dear, this forum is pretty much a benchmark for free speech, and Im not 100% convinced what youre trying to prove to us is raciscm, is actually racist.

Racism is a big deal, sure, but if you think its racist youre taking it a teeny bit far. Im half Indian, and when someone said 'Oi! Sambo! Make me a f***ing curry!' I didnt even get the police involved.

Many fluffles :fluffle:

(The world needs more of them. Hug a hater.)
Honourable Angels
13-11-2007, 18:36
No. Be silent about things you don't know anything about

Schizopherenia and a personality disorder are not the same.

Why do so many people here talk about subjects they don't know shit? :)

Hey, dont insult me, I wasnt saying they were the same! I said:

'I think he has split personality disorder (is that schizophrenia?? ((sp?)'

note the bolded.

It was a question :(

This way it stops me from talking about subjects I know little about :)

:fluffle:
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 18:50
Hey, dont insult me, I wasnt saying they were the same! I said:

'I think he has split personality disorder (is that schizophrenia?? ((sp?)'

note the bolded.

It was a question :(

This way it stops me from talking about subjects I know little about :)

:fluffle:

First of all, you don't know the difference.

Still you diagnose me, without having, clearly, a license.

And even you're licensed, which I clearly doubt, you're not using a decent procedure to diagnose me.

So a guy pretending that he is doctor, using a stupid diagnose technique and who doesn't know even the basics of mental disorders is diagnosing another…

I think you're pretty insane. Go visit a doctor!
Honourable Angels
13-11-2007, 18:58
First of all, you don't know the difference.

Still you diagnose me, without having, clearly, a license.

And even you're licensed, which I clearly doubt, you're not using a decent procedure to diagnose me.

So a guy pretending that he is doctor, using a stupid diagnose technique and who doesn't know even the basics of mental disorders is diagnosing another…

I think you're pretty insane. Go visit a doctor!

but...but...I said 'I think' which is personal opinion...And then I asked a question...And I didnt diagnose you, I just merely pondered out loud....

:(

Dont like you no more. No fluffles for you.
Skinny87
13-11-2007, 19:02
Okay guys, this isn't General. Perhaps you should take it over there until the Mods have time to respond?
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 19:09
but...but...I said 'I think' which is personal opinion...And then I asked a question...And I didnt diagnose you, I just merely pondered out loud....

:(

Dont like you no more. No fluffles for you.

I still like you, but you still should visit a doctor.

Diagnosing people without a license is not legal.

Imagine, that one would enter a complaint against you. :)

waahahahaha
Honourable Angels
13-11-2007, 19:10
Okay guys, this isn't General. Perhaps you should take it over there until the Mods have time to respond?

Whoops. My excuse? Noobyness. Didnt actually notice this was in nuts and bolts.

*grabs hat...,Leaves*
Euroslavia
13-11-2007, 20:11
For the mods.

Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against you or your work.

I don't feel comfortable by seeing racist lines and I'll use what's within my powers to get rid of it.
Interesting. What powers do you speak of? Are you a moderator? No. You have no powers here. This is a privately owned site.


When I see a racist graffiti on some wall in my street, I just buy some paint.

Your street /= A privately owned website. You aren't the owner, therefore on this site, we're the only store that sells paint, and we're not selling it to you, someone with a track record of causing problems of his own.


When I see it on a board, I ask politely to remove it.
I did it several times.

Politely? That's a joke. "Remove this or I'll report you" is far from polite. You've also received answers from two moderators (now, from three). We will not remove it.


And Frisbeeteria, NationStates Moderator Team, "I'm gone", isn't?

I remember that one. You can kill my nation, but not my mind.
Who ever said anything about killing your mind? You break our rules, you lose the chance to come here, permanently. That's all that really matters to me.

On side note, I'm closing this thread, to prevent any further posting. If any other moderators would like to jump into this, feel free, but as of now, we're done here.