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Another DK thread...

Jocabia
30-07-2007, 21:34
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12921745&postcount=98

This seems to be an inappropriate response aimed at attacking the poster rather than their argument.

Also, I'm not going to quote all of their posts, by Remote Observer and Greater Trostia just seem to be going back and forth insulting each other rather than making an argument.
JuNii
30-07-2007, 23:09
I wonder if the constant claims of one person being another's puppet can be considered flamebaiting...

Not that I mind, but it does get rather... tiring. since it becomes a dulled point being that it's overused by alot of people.
Philosopy
30-07-2007, 23:29
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12922194&postcount=13
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12922226&postcount=15
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12922247&postcount=17
Jocabia
30-07-2007, 23:58
No comments, I see.

I'm waiting for someone to say:

1. Irrelevant.
2. All lies.
3. The Brookings Institute is a haven for neocons.
4. They didn't really go to Iraq.

You know the problem is that DK starts a thread and then posts things like this in an attempt to turn it into a warzone. It basically says "when will all you people who never agree with me show up and say stupid things". Yes, it avoids saying it, but it's evidence he's really interested in stirring the pot more than rational discourse.

You look at any number of RO threads and you'll see that if it doesn't get one of his usual detractors in fast enough, he makes some similar comment in an attempt to bait everyone.

Another example -
You can't post that here on NS General - they'll call you a racist and a Muslim-basher.

He practically begs to turn each thread into being about him or other threads he's been involved in.
Jocabia
30-07-2007, 23:59
I wonder if the constant claims of one person being another's puppet can be considered flamebaiting...

Not that I mind, but it does get rather... tiring. since it becomes a dulled point being that it's overused by alot of people.

If you're referring to RO being accused of being DK, he is, according to RO. RO said that DK, RO and several other puppets are all controlled by the same "set" of people.

If you're referring to some other accusation of puppetry, then ignore me because I missed it.
JuNii
31-07-2007, 02:10
If you're referring to RO being accused of being DK, he is, according to RO. RO said that DK, RO and several other puppets are all controlled by the same "set" of people.

If you're referring to some other accusation of puppetry, then ignore me because I missed it.

Kinda. but if he admits it... then I have no complaints.

but you also have F&G and MtaE and who knows how many more.
Sarkhaan
31-07-2007, 17:10
I'm not sure if I should start another thread with this, or add it here as it seems at least tangentally relevant

It seems that RO is baiting other players, as demonstrated in these posts:
Um...ok then. Your link appears to have gotten this news from here (http://www.officialnewsagency.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=74&Itemid=73), from www.officialnewsagency.com a "news" site that features other such headlines as "Bush to Criss Angel: Make Illegals Disappear" and, in their "about us" section, states:



It's fucking fake.
Your first time today that you've bothered to google what I've posted.

You failed in the other thread because you didn't bother to look into the Pace University Koran story.
I provided a source in the Pace University thread, and you didn't bother to read that either.

It seems like if I post a source, you kneejerk into saying it's fake.

When I give you a fake one, you actually bother to read...

Quite amusing.

Now, either he fell for the fake article, and refuses to swallow his pride, or he is only posting that article to get attention and responses.

Either way, I'm getting pretty tired of the constant bickering and flame wars that follow RO everywhere he goes. While it isn't his fault that some people dislike him, he doesn't exactly make an effort not to pull them out of the cracks with every post.
Deus Malum
31-07-2007, 18:57
Kinda. but if he admits it... then I have no complaints.

but you also have F&G and MtaE and who knows how many more.

I'm reasonably sure RO and F&G are not the same person. F&G tends to be more off-the-wall, more controversial, and more eloquent.
Hydesland
31-07-2007, 19:06
Loads of people bait posters. RO just gets more attention because he baits left wingers.
JuNii
31-07-2007, 19:21
I'm reasonably sure RO and F&G are not the same person. F&G tends to be more off-the-wall, more controversial, and more eloquent.

LOL! I meant those that call F&G MtaE. :p

if (s)he admitted it too... well then... *shrugs*
Neesika
31-07-2007, 22:29
You mean...admitting to trolling suddenly makes trolling acceptable?

Wow...good to know...I guess I could have saved HerPower that way.
Jocabia
31-07-2007, 23:01
You mean...admitting to trolling suddenly makes trolling acceptable?

Wow...good to know...I guess I could have saved HerPower that way.

No, what he's referring to is that people are constantly accusing people of being puppets. He was saying it's okay to call RO a puppet of DK if RO admits to being a puppet of DK. He wasn't addressing whether or not they are trolling.
Sarkhaan
01-08-2007, 17:47
Loads of people bait posters. RO just gets more attention because he baits left wingers.

And when every thread he is in degrades into bait and flame, it gets really old. He purposely baits and then admits to it, which is trolling, and is obnoxious regardless of which side it comes from.
The Brevious
02-08-2007, 04:00
Loads of people bait posters. RO just gets more attention because he baits left wingers.

And centrists too, but the less discriminating of forum frequenter wouldn't take the time to notice the difference.
The blessed Chris
02-08-2007, 16:25
Loads of people bait posters. RO just gets more attention because he baits left wingers.

Much as I dislike him/her, he is no worse than Greater Trostia. It does much the same as RO, except that baiting right wing posters seems to be acceptable.
Greater Trostia
02-08-2007, 18:56
Much as I dislike him/her, he is no worse than Greater Trostia. It does much the same as RO, except that baiting right wing posters seems to be acceptable.

1) I don't start trolling threads
2) I am not an admitted troll
3) I don't lie

There is a difference.

Also, what's with your recent habit of following me to any thread I post in and calling me stupid? I can find several instances of that lately. You just come in and blurt out some insult at me that has nothing to do with anything I say, then leave.
The blessed Chris
03-08-2007, 16:00
1) I don't start trolling threads
2) I am not an admitted troll
3) I don't lie

There is a difference.

Also, what's with your recent habit of following me to any thread I post in and calling me stupid? I can find several instances of that lately. You just come in and blurt out some insult at me that has nothing to do with anything I say, then leave.

Don't accredit yourself with the importance. If I happen to stumble upon your posts, I might reply to them if I deem them worthwhile.

Incidentally, how would you respond if RO posted that list above, without even a cursory attempt at justification? :rolleyes:
Ardchoille
04-08-2007, 14:14
Re posts 1 - 6: Unabashed Greed: a pattern of flamebaiting, directed at one poster: one week forumban.

Re post 7 on: Your instincts were right, Sarkhaan, it should have been another thread. However, since it wasn't: the Remote Observer posts quoted so far aren't, in my opinion, actionable.

I think subsequent posts are skating around an accusation of using a puppet to troll. But generalised comments don't cut it. So: if you think puppet trolling is going on, link to the posts concerned. (And don't take this as confirmation of any theories about identities.)

Re the whole thread: Did you guys miss this post? (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12912175&postcount=10)

Kindly note that the following message is etched in letters of fire above the doors of Moderation:

MODERATION IS NOT GENERAL

And that if ye heed not these words, O pilgrims, ye will end up like unto The Most Blessed Chris, who hath a three-day forum ban for flaming in Moderation.

Greater Trostia, by the skin of his teeth, hasn't, but flaming-by-implication is still flaming. Don't do it. And when complaining about another player, please help get the matter resolved quickly by linking to examples.