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Now look,

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12822969&postcount=2
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12823010&postcount=10
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12823050&postcount=18

Now, it's possible someone could honestly believe these "ideas" to be "reasonable." Just like hey, someone could honestly believe in MTAE's "ideas" to bring back slavery. But the language indicates too much intelligence for that. Just because he asserts at every opportunity that he believes what he types, doesn't change that it's trolling.

I'm sure I could be wrong, as usual. But there you have it.

Wow...

That's not going to end well.

I'll leave this to the mods to decide, but want to make a quick statement first. Are you seriously claiming that I am too intelligent to support a reasonable viewpoint which you (and all the other posters thus far) are unable to refute? That makes you a troll, in my opinion. You are deeming me too intelligent to be right-wing in my outlook; thus, you are implicitly stating that all right-wingers are not intelligent. This seems like flaming to me.

I'll leave this to the mods to decide, but want to make a quick statement first. Are you seriously claiming that I am too intelligent to support a reasonable viewpoint which you (and all the other posters thus far) are unable to refute? That makes you a troll, in my opinion. You are deeming me too intelligent to be right-wing in my outlook; thus, you are implicitly stating that all right-wingers are not intelligent. This seems like flaming to me.

Well, the problem with this statement is:

1: He's not claiming you're too intelligent to support it. He's saying you're trying to piss people off.
2: He's not saying right wingers are unintelligent. His post is targeted at YOU.

1: He's not claiming you're too intelligent to support it.

Yes, he is. Allow me to quote: "Just like hey, someone could honestly believe in MTAE's "ideas" to bring back slavery. But the language indicates too much intelligence for that." He's saying that my language indicates too much intelligence [he deems me to be too intelligent] to advocate such a viewpoint. That's exactly what he's claiming. The logical conclusion is that anyone who supports my ideas is un-intelligent. A possible extension would be that right-wingers are un-intelligent (although this is certainly more of a leap, but, looking at his post history, you will get a sense of this hatred and elitism).

I'll leave this to the mods to decide, but want to make a quick statement first. Are you seriously claiming that I am too intelligent to support a reasonable viewpoint which you (and all the other posters thus far) are unable to refute? That makes you a troll, in my opinion. You are deeming me too intelligent to be right-wing in my outlook; thus, you are implicitly stating that all right-wingers are not intelligent. This seems like flaming to me.

It seems to me that not every right-winger wants to bring back slavery? Maybe?

Just to drive home a point: I'm NOT involved in most of the fray in that thread.

Actually, from what I can tell, he's not trolling. He's just a fanatic. He doesn't realize the cost to the REST of the planet if the North Pole gets bombed to kingdom come. It would MELT quite a bit, if we don't even talk about the number of nukes needed to make the entire place uninhabitable might cause a nuclear winter.

Are you seriously claiming that I am too intelligent to support a reasonable viewpoint which you (and all the other posters thus far) are unable to refute?

It's standard practice not to feed trolls, like for example getting into a "debate" with you in which you will never, ever concede a point. You'll ignore the times when your points are refuted and concentrate, as now, on the controversies your points make.

So just because I don't indulge your need to pretend debate does not mean I am "unable to refute." Honestly... "PROVE ME WRONG! Oh you won't? HAHA IM RIGHT." is not debate.

That makes you a troll, in my opinion.

Rubber, glue, etc. You love this line of 'reasoning.'

You are deeming me too intelligent to be right-wing in my outlook

Your outlook is not "right-wing." It is "troll."

; thus, you are implicitly stating that all right-wingers are not intelligent. This seems like flaming to me.

There are plenty of people on the right who are intelligent.

Me, for example.

So, no flame here. (And honestly, can you "flame" "all right-wingers?" All right-wingers aren't even on the forum...)

And honestly, can you "flame" "all right-wingers?" All right-wingers aren't even on the forum...

If you stated that all Jews were sub-human, that would also be flaming. It doesn't matter that not all Jews peruse this forum; it's blatant and disgusting flaming.

Note that posts of opinions you disagree with does not automatically equate with trolling.

^^
The Rules.

If you stated that all Jews were sub-human, that would also be flaming.

Nah. Flaming is targeted at another poster. What you are describing would be trolling, or flamebait, or perhaps just hatespeech.

But it's irrelevant since your "all right-wingers" accusation was a strawman.

I'm done arguing in moderation, though if a NSG mod wants to debate with you exactly what qualifies as flaming vs trolling vs baiting around here I'll watch with interest.

F 'n G has spilled over into the Moderation thread. I'm not sure there's enough popcorn.

You call that trolling? How many people would die? Probably none.