NationStates Jolt Archive

Ok, here is my thing about fris closing my thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12774195#post12774195).

It's not an IC gloat thread, I couldn't give a single neuron fire of care about Hataria being deleted. Alot of the people occupying his lands are enemies of just hated by the public in my nation.

This is a legitimate thread about taking an opprotunity to eliminate alot of people my country doesn't like or just doesn't give a damn about. If Hataria hadn't of been deleted I would have done exactly the same thing.

It's one thing to keep people from RPing invading someone who shouldn't of had that many nations to begin with [reference: that guy that with like 200 nations], it's an entirely different thing to nuke a land that's being taken over by other people, who happen to generally be diplomatic enemies.

I'm talking to Melkor on IRC right now, and he told me it's considered bad form, but since has NS moderated RP? If that thread is considered gloating, then why aren't the other, overtly gloating threads being closed?

I'm just defending the thread's non-gloating, totally IC caused legitimacy, especially compared to the out and out gloating of other people's RPs. If you decided that the other threads are to be closed also as well as leaving mine closed, that's fine. Mods needs to make their stance known, things like this should be all or nothing, not case by case.

P.S. I'm asking for mods only to post in this thread, as it's about MY thread, the mods don't need people aspiring to be mods, or random IIers/NSers/generalites to defend/attack them. [I'm saying this with the #draftroom community in mind, as I know they well defend me.] This is between me, my thread, the mods and their stance.

I am just wondering why you decide to nuke people. All they do is ruin Rps especially when you do not get previous approval by the nations you are nuking. I for one am not interested in nuclear war at all, especially when I was not made aware of it beforehand.

I am just wondering why you decide to nuke people. All they do is ruin Rps especially when you do not get previous approval by the nations you are nuking. I for one am not interested in nuclear war at all, especially when I was not made aware of it beforehand.

Then you can ignore it, it doesn't need a moderator ruling.

Then you can ignore it, it doesn't need a moderator ruling.

Alrighty. I suppose you are right in that regard.

Are we allowed to make threads about the occupation of (ex-)Hataria?

Since they haven't locked the current threads regarding that I asumme we would be.

We might lock them. I don't know if they've even been looked at. Assuming that mods approve the existence of something because they haven't acted against them is a mistake, as we a) have lives, b) don't always agree on a course of action immediately and c) it's the weekend.

We will not accept the same sort of dogpiling that happened to every Hataria thread to continue after his deletion. Those of you who are celebrating his deletion should do so quietly and off-line, as we'll be delighted to add bans and/or deletions to anyone who decides to create a celebration thread, IC or OOC.

This decision was reached before Hataria was even deleted and will stand.

I understand that you have lives. Well, there is no gloating of hat leaving on those threads, at least, as we are trying to be civil.

I was wondering... would it be against the rules to have a thread focused on a nation's deat but not attacking the nation itself?

say... using Hat's nation for an example. people role play a gigantic, catastrophic event that leaves the nation... well... deated. and everyone else roleplays the effects on their nation. Envoronmental impact, Refugees, economic impact, etc...

would that be allowable?

I was wondering... would it be against the rules to have a thread focused on a nation's deat but not attacking the nation itself?

say... using Hat's nation for an example. people role play a gigantic, catastrophic event that leaves the nation... well... deated. and everyone else roleplays the effects on their nation. Envoronmental impact, Refugees, economic impact, etc...

would that be allowable?

Even if it is not allowable, the nations involved want their war spoils, and thus wouldn't probaly agree to it.

I've locked the other threads concerning the "post mortem" Hataria. My reasons are simple:


I do not want players to think that account deletion creates fodder for RP.

Leaving aside (for the moment) the fact that these are usually thinly veiled OOC gloats, Hataria has not been banned and seeing thread after thread about what happened to his old nation is likely to serve no other purpose than to lead to a repeat of what started this whole mess to begin with. Hataria may be gone, but I don't want to have to turn around and start handing out IP bans because The Problem continued (or perhaps even intensified) after his departure. The deletion was meant to solve (or help solve) an ongoing problem. I was not concerned with the specific content of these RP's, but rather that allowing them to continue may exacerbate our concerns.

I tend toward the belief that when an active RPer is deleted, it should be treated as a game-wide IGNORE, insofar as players are able to do so. Obviously this isn't always possible if you have a backstory event that involved him, but that shouldn't compel someone to appropriate a "dead" nation's land/people/assets.


Now, I'm not going to warn anyone who made these threads, but I'll be keeping my eye on the situation and if the dogpiling continues, heads will roll.

Thank you Melkor, now that that has been settled, we can all move on.