trolling
Greater Trostia
06-06-2007, 01:20
in this thread:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529105
FAG has made a big issue of euphemistically calling racial discrimination against blacks and other minorities "reverse reverse racism" and advocating it.
He also spends time criticizing "black culture", in very typical racist fashion where you say "culture" instead of race and it suddenly becomes acceptable and non-bigoted.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12738165&postcount=54
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12738240&postcount=80
And he's also indulging in calling people who respond to the thread, a troll, or a spammer.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12737969&postcount=3
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12738003&postcount=12
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12738137&postcount=42
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12738145&postcount=46
And ignoring or twisting reasoned responses.
Very classic MTAE style trolling, if you ask me.
The Most Glorious Hack
06-06-2007, 05:25
Holding a different view than you is not trolling. Responding to image-spam of trolls is not trolling.
Best way to slay a troll is to ignore them. There's a handful of people posting in that thread and if they'd just give it up he'd get no attention and go away.
Well probably not go away, MTAE is a persistent troll.
Quick related question, is JMLP (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12739673&postcount=161) a puppet of the OP for that thread? The tone of the post is significantly different, but still.
Fassigen
06-06-2007, 17:04
Quick related question, is JMLP (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12739673&postcount=161) a puppet of the OP for that thread? The tone of the post is significantly different, but still.
http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529156
He's copy&paste spamming already, anyway.
Greater Trostia
06-06-2007, 17:10
Holding a different view than you is not trolling.
Yes, thanks, I know that.
But I wouldn't classify this as "holding a different view," any more than MTAE's "bring back slavery" threads were just a "different view." And that shit got closed. Why?
Deus Malum
06-06-2007, 18:00
http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529156
He's copy&paste spamming already, anyway.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12739686&postcount=34
And pic spamming now.
Hydesland
06-06-2007, 19:11
Holding a different view than you is not trolling. Responding to image-spam of trolls is not trolling.
Very good call there!
This is certainly not actionable. There is no proof that when F.A.G says black culture he really means black race, and even if he did, I don't think you can actually get banned for racism. (?)
In any case, he is actually following the rules more closely then other posters in that thread, who were picture spamming.
Brachiosaurus
06-06-2007, 19:50
Isn't F.A.G. an objectionable nation name since it would be a derogatory term for gays?
Brachiosaurus
06-06-2007, 19:52
nevermind. I just realized it was just an abbreviation.
Ardchoille
07-06-2007, 05:35
@ Fassigen:http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12742398&postcount=107
@ Deus Malum:http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12742458&postcount=41
On the original question, I trawled through that thread yesterday at the same time as Hack was looking at it and came to the same conclusion -- independently and half a world away -- and would have been posting the same thing if Speedy there hadn't beaten me to it.
Having subjected myself to taking in a similar thread just a few days earlier, I certainly don't want to read another reverse-racism thread for a while. Too many in a short period and it'd be thread-trolling (if that's a word).
But I'm not daft enough to say, "@given number@ is too many". Like all this stuff, it's a judgement call.
JMLP's at it again:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12743172&postcount=202
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12743167&postcount=201
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12743154&postcount=200
From here:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528785
Isn't F.A.G. an objectionable nation name since it would be a derogatory term for gays?
It's an abbreviation. His actually region title is FreedomandGlory.
Also, I'm assuming that the reason the example MTAE thread was closed because (I think this is a safe assumption, I didn't read it) it either did or was clearly going to go down in flames. Criticizing a culture is not trolling. If it was, all of us who are irritated about the oppression of woman in the Mideast would be banned.
It's an abbreviation. His actually region title is FreedomandGlory.
Also, I'm assuming that the reason the example MTAE thread was closed because (I think this is a safe assumption, I didn't read it) it either did or was clearly going to go down in flames. Criticizing a culture is not trolling. If it was, all of us who are irritated about the oppression of woman in the Mideast would be banned.
The name is a bit of troll tactical genius. MTAE doubtlessly noted most of us referred to his various persona by the capitalized letters in his name, MTAE, RC, et al. So he comes up with FreedomAndGlory, if we keep to our pattern he can claim he's being flammed every time someone refers to him as FAG.
The name is a bit of troll tactical genius. MTAE doubtlessly noted most of us referred to his various persona by the capitalized letters in his name, MTAE, RC, et al. So he comes up with FreedomAndGlory, if we keep to our pattern he can claim he's being flammed every time someone refers to him as FAG.
Just out of curiosity, do we KNOW he's MTAE, or are we just guessing?