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Mods

Kampfers
25-05-2007, 04:24
Personally, don't you think being a mod would suck? All the people whining to you, having to patrol the forums for bad posts, not being able to play the game anymore because you have to police it...

Personally, that takes all the fun out of NS for me...
JuNii
25-05-2007, 04:32
Personally, don't you think being a mod would suck? All the people whining to you, having to patrol the forums for bad posts, not being able to play the game anymore because you have to police it...

Personally, that takes all the fun out of NS for me...

... if you think so, then you should do everything you can to lessen their work.

I for one do appreciate our Mods and endevor to not be a problem for them. ;)
Ashmoria
25-05-2007, 04:36
i dunno, our mods seem to be OK with it. they do move on from time to time but overall they keep the job for quite a while. that has to mean something doesnt it?
Wilgrove
25-05-2007, 04:37
I like our mods! All hail the mods!
Troglobites
25-05-2007, 04:48
I like our mods! All hail the mods!

Like anyone would admit otherwise.

Oh, I know your there with the button.... Please, don't push the button:(
Andaras Prime
25-05-2007, 04:54
The mods have liberal bias.
Katganistan
25-05-2007, 04:55
Personally, don't you think being a mod would suck? All the people whining to you, having to patrol the forums for bad posts, not being able to play the game anymore because you have to police it...

Personally, that takes all the fun out of NS for me...

Who said we can't play the game?

The mods have liberal bias.

And your proof?
Andaras Prime
25-05-2007, 04:55
And your proof?

Sarcasm detector present?
IL Ruffino
25-05-2007, 04:59
Who said we can't play the game?

Who the hell does play the game? O.o
Katganistan
25-05-2007, 05:00
Mine must be broken....

...does that mean you think there is a conservative bias then? :confused:
JuNii
25-05-2007, 05:01
:eek:

This has GOT to be a first...

this is the FIRST time I've seen a spammy-type thread moved to MODERATION instead of SPAM!!!

MOD BIAS!!!! :p:p:p

Kidding, I love you guys. :cool:
Katganistan
25-05-2007, 05:05
Well... it may end there yet, but since the thread's got to do with us, it's the best place to make sure we all see it.
The PeoplesFreedom
25-05-2007, 05:19
If the mods do have bias, they keep it to themselves. Liberals and conservatives both get the Mod hammer of Justice.
Tarlachia
25-05-2007, 06:37
Well... it may end there yet, but since the thread's got to do with us, it's the best place to make sure we all see it.

Because, I'm sure you'd rather put this thread here, and deal with more spam/trolling/flaming threads on a regular basis.

And then return here and remind yourself why you like being a mod.

Do I get a cookie?
The Most Glorious Hack
25-05-2007, 07:52
Personally, don't you think being a mod would suck? All the people whining to you, having to patrol the forums for bad posts, not being able to play the game anymore because you have to police it...Being able to help people with problems... watching the game grow... knowing you're helping to make it a better place for the players... helping shape it's growth as it changes over time...

And I still play the game. Real life is far more restricting than modding when it comes to that.
Reploid Productions
25-05-2007, 08:05
If the mods do have bias, they keep it to themselves. Liberals and conservatives both get the Mod hammer of Justice.

I think we've been accused of every bias possible. We've been called neo-conservatives, ridiculiberals, nazis, commies, Catholics, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, crazy pagans, white, black, red, various shades of pink and brown, anti-abortion, anti-life, seriously crazed-up fruit loops, pro-war, anti-war, anti-American, anti-Canadian, anti-European, anti-Australian, terrorist supporters...

Damn, I wish I could remember all of Neut's old old nation pretitle right now.
Imperial isa
25-05-2007, 08:18
I think we've been accused of every bias possible. We've been called neo-conservatives, ridiculiberals, nazis, commies, Catholics, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, crazy pagans, white, black, red, various shades of pink and brown, anti-abortion, anti-life, seriously crazed-up fruit loops, pro-war, anti-war, anti-American, anti-Canadian, anti-European, anti-Australian, terrorist supporters...

Damn, I wish I could remember all of Neut's old old nation pretitle right now.

thats a lot of anti's

anti-Australian mm ok what one of you a new zealander :p
Tsaraine
25-05-2007, 09:27
anti-Australian mm ok what one of you a new zealander :p

Yes. Although I don't think that that charge has been leveled against me personally. I got called a fascist once, though! That's something like half a Godwin's Law.

~ Tsarmageddon
Araraukar
25-05-2007, 09:39
In every game and forum that I am a member of, I highly appreciate the hard work, patience and knowledge of moderators. They often get abuse they certainly haven't earned, and people give them a hard time just for doing their (most often) voluntary service to the gaming community.

Mods, I salute you. :)
Araraukar
25-05-2007, 09:41
"seriously crazed-up fruit loops"

Mmmm, fruit loops... ^_^
Problem Ghosts
25-05-2007, 10:12
I consider the mods as similar to RL policemen. They have a difficult, and often thankless job, but they are still human. They eat, sleep, and burp, just like the rest of us.

And they definitely still play the game. I've seen at least two of them regularly in the UN, and see an occasional modly name in the RP forums.

And I second what Araraukar said. :)
Jocabia
25-05-2007, 10:34
I consider the mods as similar to RL policemen. They have a difficult, and often thankless job, but they are still human. They eat, sleep, and burp, just like the rest of us.

And they definitely still play the game. I've seen at least two of them regularly in the UN, and see an occasional modly name in the RP forums.

And I second what Araraukar said. :)

I think of them more like bouncers. They want to ensure everyone has the opportunity to have a good time and that we get to do what the place was designed for, a good portion of what they do is done behind the scenes and in such a way that we don't notice it, they take all the crap when something goes down, but no one ever notices that they are the reason crap isn't ALWAYS going down, and when it finally comes to the point where patrons are just unwilling to be cooperative, those patrons find themselves on the sidewalk.

Yep, bouncers, I say. To the whole lot of 'em.

And that fruit loops line is the reason I now have a bowl of cereal. Must not read abuse hurled at the mods after travelling all night.
Brutland and Norden
25-05-2007, 10:42
I think we've been accused of every bias possible. We've been called neo-conservatives, ridiculiberals, nazis, commies, Catholics, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, crazy pagans, white, black, red, various shades of pink and brown, anti-abortion, anti-life, seriously crazed-up fruit loops, pro-war, anti-war, anti-American, anti-Canadian, anti-European, anti-Australian, terrorist supporters...
Awwww... poor mods. Doin' all the work and yet being called names??

Don't worry. Me love mods.

I'm not suckin' up. Seriously. I've been in another unmoderated forum, took a leave, and when I returned, it was full of spam, trolls, and flaming. Hardly post there anymore. Them mods prevent NS Forum (or Fora?) from degenerating into that kind of mess. Thank God for mods.
Ardchoille
25-05-2007, 11:28
Mod bias, eh? Mod bias? What about player bias, I ask you? What about that? Look! Look at this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12678172&postcount=48)!
*Pantses Ardchoille*
And this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12673070&postcount=68)!
<snip> ... she's doubly-guilty. You've accepted the position, now leave your old and crooked ways behind, Ard.
AND this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12638644&postcount=105)!
<snip>She's tossed in the bunch with the rest of 'em. And deservedly so. Take that how you want it.

So, we're not noticing a pattern developing here, are we, at all, hmmmmm?

I mean, if that's not bias, what is?
Kampfers
25-05-2007, 19:31
You just never see the mods RPing. Which is what NS is all (or mostly) about.
Jocabia
25-05-2007, 19:45
Mod bias, eh? Mod bias? What about player bias, I ask you? What about that? Look! Look at this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12678172&postcount=48)!

And this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12673070&postcount=68)!

AND this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12638644&postcount=105)!


So, we're not noticing a pattern developing here, are we, at all, hmmmmm?

I mean, if that's not bias, what is?

*Gets caught pulling Ard's pigtails* Dang, so you noticed that, huh? Besides my bias is funny.
Frisbeeteria
25-05-2007, 19:46
Which is what NS is all (or mostly) about.

It is? News to me. It'd be news to the raider community, the regional politics community, the General debate community, the General social spam community, the UN resolution-writing community, the NSwiki national history community, the ship design community, and quite a few others.

... Each of whom think their idea of the game is the only way the game should be played, and each of whom is wrong. I'm part of the mod community, which gets to write and enforce the rules of the game. I find that an entirely satisfactory mode of 'play'.
Dread Lady Nathicana
25-05-2007, 19:49
Mods rp all the time, just not all of them. Where have you been playing, boyo? Not only do they rp, I'm in alliances with them - active alliances that have been so for years now. And like Fris said, they're active all over the place in as far as I can tell, every aspect of the game - hence their being able to manage it as they do. Might want to do some research before you up and drop comments on things you don't seem to know much about. ;)
Erastide
26-05-2007, 00:50
You just never see the mods RPing. Which is what NS is all (or mostly) about.
I'd be happy to introduce you to the 100s of people I've interacted with that won't touch Jolt with a 10ft pole. And they may RP, but it's not necessarily *here*.
Romanar
26-05-2007, 00:54
You just never see the mods RPing. Which is what NS is all (or mostly) about.

I see Fris & Hack in the UN forum all the time, as players. I've also seen some mods in the RP sections. I can't remember who, and I don't know how active they are there, since I'm not really active in Jolt's RP, but I lurk, and I know I've seen them there.
Katganistan
26-05-2007, 01:40
Remember folks....
ModAlert
26-05-2007, 01:41
...some of us have puppets, too.
Katganistan
26-05-2007, 01:42
...or good friends, at least. ;)
Utracia
26-05-2007, 01:51
How could being a mod be considered a bad thing? The power you have in that position is.... nothing to ignore. You have the fate of every poster in your hands. You can sit up on your interweb Olympus and smite the troublemakers who spam and flame and troll. What could be better?
Dread Lady Nathicana
26-05-2007, 02:32
Getting paid for it? *grins*
Utracia
26-05-2007, 02:44
Getting paid for it? *grins*


Well... yeah.... but still. :D
Huntaer
26-05-2007, 03:21
...some of us have puppets, too.

Oh? So is that how you mods know about stuff before people get the chance to report it?

I always thought Fris was just the fastest gun in the west (with Kat close in second), but I never thought he actually might be using a chain gun.
Katganistan
26-05-2007, 03:33
How could being a mod be considered a bad thing? The power you have in that position is.... nothing to ignore. You have the fate of every poster in your hands. You can sit up on your interweb Olympus and smite the troublemakers who spam and flame and troll. What could be better?

Getting paid for it? *grins*

Or not having to smite so often. :D

Oh? So is that how you mods know about stuff before people get the chance to report it?

I always thought Fris was just the fastest gun in the west (with Kat close in second), but I never thought he actually might be using a chain gun.

Can't speak for anyone else, but usually, Katganistan is the nation I use. Also, there are more than one avenue for reporting stuff, and not all of them are publicly visible.

Other than that, Fris and I are just that damned good. ;)
Jocabia
26-05-2007, 03:46
Or not having to smite so often. :D



Can't speak for anyone else, but usually, Katganistan is the nation I use. Also, there are more than one avenue for reporting stuff, and not all of them are publicly visible.

Other than that, Fris and I are just that damned good. ;)

Ha. Just ha.
Utracia
26-05-2007, 03:53
Or not having to smite so often. :D

Oh come on, admit it. It's fun to smite. :)
Huntaer
26-05-2007, 04:20
Can't speak for anyone else, but usually, Katganistan is the nation I use. Also, there are more than one avenue for reporting stuff, and not all of them are publicly visible.

Other than that, Fris and I are just that damned good. ;)

I would just love to know what those non publicly visible avenues are. Pretty please?
Jocabia
26-05-2007, 04:27
Oh come on, admit it. It's fun to smite. :)

Honestly, I think they go out of their way to choose people who won't enjoy it too much.
The Most Glorious Hack
26-05-2007, 05:13
I would just love to know what those non publicly visible avenues are. Pretty please?If we told you, they'd be publicly visible, now wouldn't they?
Cookesland
26-05-2007, 05:23
do you like being mods?
Katganistan
26-05-2007, 12:41
Just for myself, again: mostly. :)

I would just love to know what those non publicly visible avenues are. Pretty please?

Getting Help Page, and #themodcave on irc.esper.net.
(Sorry, Hack, they'll be thinking that we have mind powerz or something. Which we do, but they'd be worried if they knew it.... aw geez....)
Ardchoille
26-05-2007, 14:53
Do I like it? Ask me in a few months, when the blisters settle down.

So far it's a bit like driving. For years, you watch other people do it. Turn the key and go, right? And then you get to hop in, and you turn the key, and the car won't start. Because you didn't know about the accessories-only setting, or the clutch, or the gears, and why are the windscreen wipers flapping when I thought I was using the indicator?

I do like driving, though.

Since you've asked a question, I get to ask one back: When is your UN delegation gonna pay that months-overdue Strangers' Bar tab, eh?

EIDT: I forgot:

Honestly, I think they go out of their way to choose people who won't enjoy it too much.

The very first question they ask is: Are you now, or have you ever been, a masochist?

I lied in my interview.
Tsaraine
26-05-2007, 17:14
Do I enjoy it? It varies. Sometimes I have a warm fuzzy grow, as if I'd helped a kitten across the road. Sometimes I have a dark and malicious glee, much like a policeman must feel when he Defeats Evil. Sometimes I feel an impotent rage against the stupidity of Humanity, which I imagine Jesus feels all the time (or would, except He is too mellow). Sometimes all at once!

And what we didn't tell Ardchoille is that the masochism thingy is just so nobody feels left out on Leather Thursdays. This is why honesty is important, folks!

~ Tsarmageddon is your Master :D

But not really.
Melkor Unchained
26-05-2007, 17:31
I like it well enough, but I have to take breaks. My last one was pretty long (and I thought it would be permanent at first) but I came back around like I always do.

I was modded in like April or May of 2003 (I was the first one), so the enormous majority of my time on NS has been spent as a moderator and as a result it's kind of hard for me to look at NS through a player's lens anymore. Some of the newer mods have an advantage over me in this area, since they know more about what it feels like to be a regular player here than I do.

It's really not that bad most of the time, but I'm always wary of people who have an apparent eagerness to be a moderator. It can definately be a lot of work, so anyone who would campaign for it is either power hungry or masochistic. Possibly both.
Jocabia
26-05-2007, 17:49
It can definately be a lot of work, so anyone who would campaign for it is either power hungry or masochistic. Possibly both.

I think that's why it's nice to say thank you once in a while. However, I would point out that there is the overwhelming advantage of being a part of making this the place it is. You've been here since the beginning. You've got to see it evolve thus far. You've gotten a say. You've gotten to help all of us have more fun and kept it thriving. That's gotta feel good.
Cookesland
26-05-2007, 18:43
Since you've asked a question, I get to ask one back: When is your UN delegation gonna pay that months-overdue Strangers' Bar tab, eh?



he didn't pay yet!? what's it up to now?
JuNii
26-05-2007, 19:43
Do I like it? Ask me in a few months, when the blisters settle down.Lighten up on the grip when welding the mod Hammer, you don't have to hold it that tight... and put a little more "umf" on the followthrough... oh and remember to always keep your head down.

So far it's a bit like driving. For years, you watch other people do it. Turn the key and go, right? And then you get to hop in, and you turn the key, and the car won't start. Because you didn't know about the accessories-only setting, or the clutch, or the gears, and why are the windscreen wipers flapping when I thought I was using the indicator? for me it was the fact that I was using the house key instead of the car key... damn thing also snapped off in the ignition...
Jocabia
26-05-2007, 20:13
Lighten up on the grip when welding the mod Hammer, you don't have to hold it that tight... and put a little more "umf" on the followthrough... oh and remember to always keep your head down.

I find gloves help until you build up some callouses. Though if we listen to DLN there is a mod pillow that Ard could use. Somehow the mod pillow of doom isn't quite as threatening though. Unless it's made of feathers. Cuz I'm really ticklish.

Personally, I think she should try a new approach. Something different from other mods. I know if I was all angry and flamey, I would definitely be encouraged to mend my ways by a back rub. Maybe a piece of candy. Some random flattery.

"Oh, come on, Jocabia. You know better than to be so angry." *rubs back* "You have the knees of a Greek god and your butt looks fabulous in those jeans." *gives a single skittle and watches as Jocabia becomes a soft and cuddly poster*

Ard, the mods have been going about this all wrong. I think you should learn 'em a thing or two about kinder, gentler moderation.
Ardchoille
27-05-2007, 05:55
he didn't pay yet!? what's it up to now?

If I answered that I'd be numbers-spamming and I'd have to modslap myself.

Actually, I should anyway, because I'd forgotten about this:
Tag Games: Carrying on with a conversation or chase game in unrelated threads is spamming and topic hijacking. Don't do it.

*modslaps self*

*gets all sulky with self and goes away to mutter about self on offsite forums*

And nix to this kinder, gentler stuff. I've asked Hack to teach me to breathe dragonfire just like his Mme Vermithrax. GTG now, it's time for my tutorial.

*stokes fires in happy anticipation -- Ardchoille, Poster Toaster.*
Katganistan
27-05-2007, 05:57
WHO SEZ I AIN'T KIND AND GENTLE!!!!?????


*swings Mod Hairbrush of Doom!*
I V Stalin
27-05-2007, 14:12
Lighten up on the grip when welding the mod Hammer, you don't have to hold it that tight... and put a little more "umf" on the followthrough... oh and remember to always keep your head down.
It's much like playing golf in that respect. Get a good stance, grip the Hammer firmly but not tightly, cock your wrists on the backswing, then strike cleanly through the player and don't lift your head until you're well into the follow-through. Else you'll shank it. ;)
Kivisto
27-05-2007, 15:52
(Sorry, Hack, they'll be thinking that we have mind powerz or something. Which we do, but they'd be worried if they knew it.... aw geez....)

I KNEW IT!!!:p
Huntaer
27-05-2007, 16:19
I KNEW IT!!!:p

This reminds me of something...

I used to think in elementary school that Teachers were strong in the Dark Side of the Force and that was how they knew we didn't studdy for our spelling quizes or math quizes. Perhapse the mods have something similar? :D
Cookesland
27-05-2007, 16:35
This reminds me of something...

I used to think in elementary school that Teachers were strong in the Dark Side of the Force and that was how they knew we didn't studdy for our spelling quizes or math quizes. Perhapse the mods have something similar? :D

i guess their modly-senses start tingling :p
Katganistan
27-05-2007, 17:44
Oh for pity's sake, PUT YOUR CLOTHES BACK ON.
JuNii
28-05-2007, 05:17
I find gloves help until you build up some callouses. Though if we listen to DLN there is a mod pillow that Ard could use. Somehow the mod pillow of doom isn't quite as threatening though. Unless it's made of feathers. Cuz I'm really ticklish.

Personally, I think she should try a new approach. Something different from other mods. I know if I was all angry and flamey, I would definitely be encouraged to mend my ways by a back rub. Maybe a piece of candy. Some random flattery.

"Oh, come on, Jocabia. You know better than to be so angry." *rubs back* "You have the knees of a Greek god and your butt looks fabulous in those jeans." *gives a single skittle and watches as Jocabia becomes a soft and cuddly poster*

Ard, the mods have been going about this all wrong. I think you should learn 'em a thing or two about kinder, gentler moderation.*looks at thread title... Looks at thread section...* err... Jocabia... are you posting in the right thread???

WHO SEZ I AIN'T KIND AND GENTLE!!!!?????


*swings Mod Hairbrush of Doom!* NOT ME!!! *Points to Jocabia and ducks*

It's much like playing golf in that respect. Get a good stance, grip the Hammer firmly but not tightly, cock your wrists on the backswing, then strike cleanly through the player and don't lift your head until you're well into the follow-through. Else you'll shank it. ;)either way, the landings are fun to watch... except when the deated hit the pin... then it gets really messy... :p

Oh for pity's sake, PUT YOUR CLOTHES BACK ON. YES MA'AM!!!wait... how'd you know???
:confused:
*searches for hidden camera*
Flibbleites
28-05-2007, 14:52
WHO SEZ I AIN'T KIND AND GENTLE!!!!?????


*swings Mod Hairbrush of Doom!*

Of course you're kind and gentle, until you get mad. It's a whole Bruce Banner/Incredible Hulk kind of thing.
Karmicaria
28-05-2007, 19:20
Of course you're kind and gentle, until you get mad. It's a whole Bruce Banner/Incredible Hulk kind of thing.

I don't think you mean "when she gets mad". I think it's because she is mad, as in, crazy. I said it about Ard on one of the offsites and I believe that it can be extended to all mods. You're all crazy in your own little way. Think about it. What person in their right mind would accept becoming a mod?

I'm pretty sure that being slightly mad a prerequisite.


Of course, it just makes us love them all the more. :D
Katganistan
28-05-2007, 23:44
This reminds me of something...

I used to think in elementary school that Teachers were strong in the Dark Side of the Force and that was how they knew we didn't studdy for our spelling quizes or math quizes.

Nah, we just remember being students ourselves. As I tell my students: anything you're going to try to get away with in here, *I* tried to get away with when *I* was your age. And you know what, I got caught too."

Then I prove it by catching them in the middle of trying to be slick. Apparently, some think that instead of PASSING notes, THROWING them makes them less noticeable... :rolleyes:
Katganistan
28-05-2007, 23:46
I don't think you mean "when she gets mad". I think it's because she is mad, as in, crazy. I said it about Ard on one of the offsites and I believe that it can be extended to all mods. You're all crazy in your own little way. Think about it. What person in their right mind would accept becoming a mod?

I'm pretty sure that being slightly mad a prerequisite.


Of course, it just makes us love them all the more. :D

You fancy me mad. Madmen know nothing. But you should have seen me. You should have seen how wisely I proceeded -- with what caution -- with what foresight, with what dissimulation, I went to work!*

* with apologies to Mr. Poe.
Flibbleites
29-05-2007, 03:36
I don't think you mean "when she gets mad". I think it's because she is mad, as in, crazy.

Well I obviously meant mad as in angry, hence the whole Hulk reference.
Ardchoille
29-05-2007, 04:57
<snip> I said it about Ard on one of the offsites and I believe that it can be extended to all mods. You're all crazy in your own little way. <snip>

I am but mad north-north-west: when the wind is southerly I know a hawk from a handsaw.

(Apologies to Quintessence of Dust for the intrusion on his turf).