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I deleted all mine, and my first post wasn't a flame. But his was. I shouldn't have wasted my time by replying. I should have known better than to be dragged into a flamewar over nothing. My mistake and all offending posts of mine were deleted by my own will.

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Good. I never should have responded to his first flamebait.

UnHoly Smite, referring to members of one party as "Democraps" is flamebait. Do you not think that you'd react negatively if someone called you a "Republicunt"? The fact that you deleted them counts for something, but the fact that you posted them in the first place still counts.

Your posting style is unnecessarily hostile and combative, and I'll tell you now that it's going to get you banned eventually if you don't take steps to mitigate it. Consider this a polite warning.

BTW, being 26 years old hardly makes you a senior poster. There are plenty of us who actually had the opportunity to vote for or against Carter, not just read about him in history books. Drop the ageist comments. From my perspective, you're the punk kid.

Isn't this the part in the thread where Jocabia usually shows up, acts all smug, then goes running off to Moderation to tattle on everybody?

Or did I miss that bit yet?

Wish granted.

UnHoly Smite, referring to members of one party as "Democraps" is flamebait. Do you not think that you'd react negatively if someone called you a "Republicunt"? The fact that you deleted them counts for something, but the fact that you posted them in the first place still counts.

Your posting style is unnecessarily hostile and combative, and I'll tell you now that it's going to get you banned eventually if you don't take steps to mitigate it. Consider this a polite warning.

BTW, being 26 years old hardly makes you a senior poster. There are plenty of us who actually had the opportunity to vote for or against Carter, not just read about him in history books. Drop the ageist comments. From my perspective, you're the punk kid.




Nice to see mod bias is alive and well. Good job ignoring the other posters comments and his unneeded hostile attacks on me, including his unwarrented threat. I stand by my comments and posting style, my first comment was directed at Carter not any poster, and that makes the other persons attack on me unjustified. But what he doesn't seem to matter to you.

I won't change my style as it's no more or less hostile than anybody else here. But IMO you should not be a mod. It's still interesting and telling how you ignored the leftists attacks and flames and zoned in on me.....:rolleyes:



Jimmiy Carter is democrap. Plain and simple, I have seen people here call all republicans worse and nothing happen to them. Mod Bias....The people who call the mods here biased have a valid point, and you proved it.

goodbye UnHoly Smite

Flaming moderators is a bad idea.

*waits for mod hammer*

-snip-

You've been given what could at worst be described as an unofficial warning. You haven't been punished in anyway; just told to stop doing something before it gets you in trouble.

As to why you got it and the other guy didn't - probably because you were in this thread in the first place. In many ways, that gives you the advantage; you now know to stop doing something that, if he continues, may get him deleted.

I'd quit while you're behind, if I were you.

goodbye UnHoly Smite

Flaming moderators is a bad idea.


Problems with your post



1. It wasn't a flame but a complaint
2. Frisbeeteria flamed and flamebaited me
3. Frisbeeteria ignored flames and threats on me and zoned in on me
4. I pointed out the flaws in Frisbeeteria's logic and mod actions
5. Mod bias is not a flame but a valid complaint and very true here. read the other posters offending posts.
6. Doesn't matter. Frisbeeteria has made it clear right wingers of any sort are not welcome here, this is why I was singled out and the other poster got away with threatening me.

Mod Bias, if thats a flame....It shows complaining on how the mods do their job is a no no.

You've been given what could at worst be described as an unofficial warning. You haven't been punished in anyway; just told to stop doing something before it gets you in trouble.

As to why you got it and the other guy didn't - probably because you were in this thread in the first place. In many ways, that gives you the advantage; you now know to stop doing something that, if he continues, may get him deleted.

I'd quit while you're behind, if I were you.



The fact is his posting was worse, he flamed, flamebaiting and threatened me. But he got nothing, not even a unofficial warning. I have a right to annoyed here. How is attacking a former president flamebaiting a user? It's not.


It is clear here that attacking a democrat is bad, but attacking republicans, conservative, and any right winger is ok. I have seen it countless times in far worse fashion, only to have mods brush it off as ok. This IS BIAS!

Problems with your post



1. It wasn't a flame but a complaint
2. Frisbeeteria flamed and flamebaited me
3. Frisbeeteria ignored flames and threats on me and zoned in on me
4. I pointed out the flaws in Frisbeeteria's logic and mod actions
5. Mod bias is not a flame but a valid complaint and very true here. read the other posters offending posts.
6. Doesn't matter. Frisbeeteria has made it clear right wingers of any sort are not welcome here, this is why I was singled out and the other poster got away with threatening me.

Mod Bias, if thats a flame....It shows complaining on how the mods do their job is a no no.
1. you could have complained more politely
2. no he didn't
3. no he didn't

4-6 whatever...... if I was going to pick a biased mod, it wouldn't be Fris.

*waits for another mod*

The fact is his posting was worse, he flamed, flamebaiting and threatened me. But he got nothing, not even a unofficial warning. I have a right to annoyed here. How is attacking a former president flamebaiting a user? It's not.


It is clear here that attacking a democrat is bad, but attacking republicans, conservative, and any right winger is ok. I have seen it countless times in far worse fashion, only to have mods brush it off as ok. This IS BIAS!

Neither of you got official warnings, or were banned, or were punished in any way. Nothing Fris has said in this thread will go on your 'official record'. You were given advice by a moderator about how to avoid getting into trouble.

How can not punishing either of you ever be bias?

1. you could have complained more politely
2. no he didn't
3. no he didn't

4-6 whatever...... if I was going to pick a biased mod, it wouldn't be Fris.

*waits for another mod*



1. I don't see what I said as rude.
2. Yes he did.
3. Yes he did. Read the reported posts. He ignore flames and threats.
4-6. You don't know fris, this isn't the first time people have had issues with his modding.



Another mod won't change things. I doubt they will read the other posters attacks and flames and see I have a right to be pissed. If he was warned maybe I wouldn't be so pissed...Maybe.

Neither of you got official warnings, or were banned, or were punished in any way. Nothing Fris has said in this thread will go on your 'official record'. You were given advice by a moderator about how to avoid getting into trouble.

How can not punishing either of you ever be bias?



Because Fris's post was directed at me and only me. The other guy was ignored all together. Thats how.

Might I recommend that everyone relax and let Fris and Unholy Smite work this out. Accusations are not flames necessarily. Unholy has made it clear that he's not going to calm himself until he has this out, unfortunately.

Unholy, Phil is trying to help you recognize that whether or not you feel mistreated a calm reply is going to play much better for you than getting angry and heated. If you can't do that right now becaue you feel attacked (and I think you do) then get up and go play racquetball or watch a show or play in the mud. Take a breath. Then if it's still a problem come back and discuss it.

Might I recommend that everyone relax and let Fris and Unholy Smite work this out. Accusations are not flames necessarily. Unholy has made it clear that he's not going to calm himself until he has this out, unfortunately.

Unholy, Phil is trying to help you recognize that whether or not you feel mistreated a calm reply is going to play much better for you than getting angry and heated. If you can't do that right now becaue you feel attacked (and I think you do) then get up and go play racquetball or watch a show or play in the mud. Take a breath. Then if it's still a problem come back and discuss it.QFT
and Unholy...

please don't be the second poster I'll see go from Unoffical Warning to deat in one thread.

What happens to other posters isn't really your business, it's the moderator's business. You can't possibly claim to have full knowledge of what does and doesn't go on behind the scenes. Just because someone else does something doesn't make it right. And do you know why Fris gets so much hassle? Because he doesn't coddle and put up with a lot of bullshit - and frankly, he shouldn't have to. Nor should any of the others.

They all have a different style, they all have different backgrounds, they all have different political and religious or lack thereof leanings - given that, I have a hard time with the across-the-board bias claim. But hey, everyone's free to their own opinion. If anything, the only bias I think can be claimed with any amount of truth, is a bias against rule-breakers, and folks who are out to cause trouble. They've got a helluva track record with those.

I think every mod on here has had complaints about them at one point or other. Some valid, some just people who are pissed they can't say or do anything they like carte blanche. The problem here is you've been -advised-, not officially warned (yet), and you've copped a massive attitude over it and flat out stated you don't care what the mods say, you won't do it.

Continuing along this path has never ended well in the past, and I don't foresee with my limited abilities that the trend will change any time soon. If you want another mod to review it, ask politely (don't whine about who should or shouldn't be getting smacked, or rant angrily about bias, or make baseless accusations), or at least civilly, and quit taking enough rope to hang yourself in the meantime.

Oh look - another attempt at helpful advice. Is this going to be considered a flame too, I wonder? *shrugs and gets back to planting trees*

Because Fris's post was directed at me and only me. The other guy was ignored all together. Thats how.

Uh, you're not catching on here. There's no bias because neither of you got an official action, however you're on the fast track to banhammer. Actually given the way you post I'd say you've been watched for a while, best bet is to play nice.

Might I recommend that everyone relax and let Fris and Unholy Smite work this out. Accusations are not flames necessarily. Unholy has made it clear that he's not going to calm himself until he has this out, unfortunately.

Unholy, Phil is trying to help you recognize that whether or not you feel mistreated a calm reply is going to play much better for you than getting angry and heated. If you can't do that right now becaue you feel attacked (and I think you do) then get up and go play racquetball or watch a show or play in the mud. Take a breath. Then if it's still a problem come back and discuss it.


I am not flaming Fris nor am I trying to get deated here. If I was I could do alot worse. My past posts have not been as bad. I am just stating how annoyed I was with being singled out, nowhere did I actually say I felt I shouldn't have gotten something, just that it was unfair that I got something and he didn't. Also that Fris's comments at me were unwarranted and flamebaiting. The other guy flamed, flamebaited and threatened me..How is it ok for that to be ignored?


And If I was trying to get banned......I can think of more funny and clever ways to do it than this.

What happens to other posters isn't really your business, it's the moderator's business. You can't possibly claim to have full knowledge of what does and doesn't go on behind the scenes. Just because someone else does something doesn't make it right. And do you know why Fris gets so much hassle? Because he doesn't coddle and put up with a lot of bullshit - and frankly, he shouldn't have to. Nor should any of the others.

They all have a different style, they all have different backgrounds, they all have different political and religious or lack thereof leanings - given that, I have a hard time with the across-the-board bias claim. But hey, everyone's free to their own opinion. If anything, the only bias I think can be claimed with any amount of truth, is a bias against rule-breakers, and folks who are out to cause trouble. They've got a helluva track record with those.

I think every mod on here has had complaints about them at one point or other. Some valid, some just people who are pissed they can't say or do anything they like carte blanche. The problem here is you've been -advised-, not officially warned (yet), and you've copped a massive attitude over it and flat out stated you don't care what the mods say, you won't do it.

Continuing along this path has never ended well in the past, and I don't foresee with my limited abilities that the trend will change any time soon. If you want another mod to review it, ask politely (don't whine about who should or shouldn't be getting smacked, or rant angrily about bias, or make baseless accusations), or at least civilly, and quit taking enough rope to hang yourself in the meantime.

Oh look - another attempt at helpful advice. Is this going to be considered a flame too, I wonder? *shrugs and gets back to planting trees*



Listen, I never complained about me getting anything. If I was warned I wouldn't have cared. I am just stating my unhappiness with nothing happening to the other poster and me being singled out. That is what this is about, the other poster getting off clean. If Fris did anything it should have been public.

Uh, you're not catching on here. There's no bias because neither of you got an official action, however you're on the fast track to banhammer. Actually given the way you post I'd say you've been watched for a while, best bet is to play nice.



You guys don't seem to get my complaint here. I am complaining about me being singled out and the other guy getting ignored. Read his posts and tell me if you think he should get something.

Having reviewed the incident(s) in question, I am making the following judgement;

UnHoly Smite, your "Democraps" comment was flamebait. Your posts subsequent to that were flaming. That you deleted them counts for something, and that something is probably why you got an unofficial warning rather than a real one.

As you have copiously pointed out, Maineiacs is not innocent of the "flaming" charge either - but your offenses were above and beyond worse. As Fris said, your posting style is unnecessarily hostile and combative. It is more offensive than other posters - you were the one who started a flame war in that thread - and I will strongly advise you now to can it, because I can guarantee you will not like what happens if you do not.

You're not flaming Fris in this thread, but you're damn close to it. I'm not seeing anything even slightly indicative of bias in his post; don't assume that he's biased just because he's given you a smack - heck, a flap - on the wrist.

~Tsarmageddon

Having reviewed the incident(s) in question, I am making the following judgement;

UnHoly Smite, your "Democraps" comment was flamebait. Your posts subsequent to that were flaming. That you deleted them counts for something, and that something is probably why you got an unofficial warning rather than a real one.

As you have copiously pointed out, Maineiacs is not innocent of the "flaming" charge either - but your offenses were above and beyond worse. As Fris said, your posting style is unnecessarily hostile and combative. It is more offensive than other posters - you were the one who started a flame war in that thread - and I will strongly advise you now to can it, because I can guarantee you will not like what happens if you do not.

You're not flaming Fris in this thread, but you're damn close to it. I'm not seeing anything even slightly indicative of bias in his post; don't assume that he's biased just because he's given you a smack - heck, a flap - on the wrist.

~Tsarmageddon




How about I shove my foot up yours?:upyours: You got the guts to come up here and make me stop, big man?



How is anything I posted worse than that? I am not complaining because of what I got, but due to the fact Maineiacs got nothing even after he threatened me. This is why I say Bias. This is a clear threat and he should have been dealt with, nothing I said was even close to that. I stand by the Bias statement. How is what he did ok and not deserving of a warning?

You've been given what could at worst be described as an unofficial warning. You haven't been punished in anyway; just told to stop doing something before it gets you in trouble.

As to why you got it and the other guy didn't - probably because you were in this thread in the first place. In many ways, that gives you the advantage; you now know to stop doing something that, if he continues, may get him deleted.

I'd quit while you're behind, if I were you.

As Philosopy said, you were here first, so you got warned. Also, it is not mod bias. It even says say in the one stop thread that is in this section. They are not biased, they are probably discussing about him and what to do right now, we just don't know.

Also, you know to stop it now, Maine-whatever, does not. He is going to be heavily watched now, you are not.

So claiming mod bias is not the thing to do here and seriously? Fris simply said to stop flaming and that your posting style was a little too aggressive. He didn't say anything bad to you in anyway. As the others have said, you are getting off with a mere touch on the wrist. Enjoy it, don't flip out over this. There is no need to create a scene about this, when Fris has been nice and not even done anything to you.

As Philosopy said, you were here first, so you got warned. Also, it is not mod bias. It even says say in the one stop thread that is in this section. They are not biased, they are probably discussing about him and what to do right now, we just don't know.

Also, you know to stop it now, Maine-whatever, does not. He is going to be heavily watched now, you are not.

So claiming mod bias is not the thing to do here and seriously? Fris simply said to stop flaming and that your posting style was a little too aggressive. He didn't say anything bad to you in anyway. As the others have said, you are getting off with a mere touch on the wrist. Enjoy it, don't flip out over this. There is no need to create a scene about this, when Fris has been nice and not even done anything to you.




Again, I am not complaining that I got anything or what happened to me in anyway. Ok? I am complaining that I was singled out and Maineiacs got nothing.


To sum this up, This is not about me getting warned or anything, but Maineiacs NOT getting warned. Read his post and posts, he clearly should get something here. I will continue to explain it until somebody understands my complaint...which is Maineiacs NOT getting anything.

-snip-

You've had the decision looked at by another Mod. If you're still unhappy, I would recommend you read the thread below as to what to do next.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=440491

You've had the decision looked at by another Mod. If you're still unhappy, I would recommend you read the thread below as to what to do next.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=440491



The way I see it is going to the admin is the only course of action, and trust me that is a waste of time since the admin rarely answers or even cares about these things. I have done that before, I am not sure the admin even reads these complaints or even cares. I also don't think this is big enough to justify going to the admin...Yet that is.

It really isn't big enough. The mods can handle this on their own. This is just getting blown out of proportion. Just take a break, calm down and drink some water. This isn't something to get worked up over.

Wish granted.

You were insufficiently smug, so I question your ability to grant wishes.

It really isn't big enough. The mods can handle this on their own. This is just getting blown out of proportion. Just take a break, calm down and drink some water. This isn't something to get worked up over.


Not worth it? He threatened me physically, how is that not worth it? I didn't threaten him.

MODS ONLY (and Unholy Smite) from this point forward, please.

You guys don't seem to get my complaint here. I am complaining about me being singled out and the other guy getting ignored. Read his posts and tell me if you think he should get something.

The only reason you got singled out was that you stated you weren't flaming, and that the other guy was. You were wrong. You were both flaming, and "The Black Forrest" (thread starter of this report) was entirely accurate to refer to it as "A pissing match."

You may have gone back and deleted your posts, but not quickly enough to prevent several of them from being [quoted] back at you. You can't have the best of both worlds - a clean slate and still have a chance to beat hell out of your opponent.

Had I made an official ruling in-thread, it would have been a simple "Knock it off, you two". Seeing as you had each put the other on ignore by the time I got there, that seemed kinda pointless. Instead, I concentrated on the fact that you were here, and [quite politely] slapped you on the wrist. Beyond that, I think Tsaraine summed up the issues quite nicely. I see no reason to address the original thread further.

Your continued behavior in this thread is perfect vindication for my original ruling. You're combative and insulting for no particular reason, taking absolutely no responsibility for your own insulting behavior and demanding redress from others for what appears far milder to my eyes.

I stand 100% behind my original ruling, mild as it was. Feel free to appeal using the appeals process as described in The One-Stop Rules Shop, but you probably shouldn't bother to write the admins, as they instituted the appeals process to avoid precisely this sort of mountain-out-of-molehill complaint.

Not worth it? He threatened me physically, how is that not worth it? I didn't threaten him.
Yes you did, though you deleted it afterwards.
What an immature idiot. How old are you son? You act like a 12 year old. Grow up.


And I would come up there, you talk tough because you know I can't, but If we ever met I'd knock the shit out of you..And you obviously deserve it.

MODS ONLY (and Unholy Smite) from this point forward, please.



The only reason you got singled out was that you stated you weren't flaming, and that the other guy was. You were wrong. You were both flaming, and "The Black Forrest" (thread starter of this report) was entirely accurate to refer to it as "A pissing match."

You may have gone back and deleted your posts, but not quickly enough to prevent several of them from being [quoted] back at you. You can't have the best of both worlds - a clean slate and still have a chance to beat hell out of your opponent.

Had I made an official ruling in-thread, it would have been a simple "Knock it off, you two". Seeing as you had each put the other on ignore by the time I got there, that seemed kinda pointless. Instead, I concentrated on the fact that you were here, and [quite politely] slapped you on the wrist. Beyond that, I think Tsaraine summed up the issues quite nicely. I see no reason to address the original thread further.

Your continued behavior in this thread is perfect vindication for my original ruling. You're combative and insulting for no particular reason, taking absolutely no responsibility for your own insulting behavior and demanding redress from others for what appears far milder to my eyes.

I stand 100% behind my original ruling, mild as it was. Feel free to appeal using the appeals process as described in The One-Stop Rules Shop, but you probably shouldn't bother to write the admins, as they instituted the appeals process to avoid precisely this sort of mountain-out-of-molehill complaint.



I never said I didn't deserve anything, I admitted I shouldn't have responded to him and should have ignored him. Ok? I never said I shouldn't have gotten anything, yes I did flame him but he did flame me first. the difference here was my first post wasn't directed at any poster but to Jimmy Carter and his was a direct flame of me. I should have ignored his stupid comment but against my better judgement I did not. But that doesn't make him treatening me physically ok. He did cross the line with that and all I asked was he be dealt with which he wasn't. I wasn't asking or demanding that anything directed at me be removed, but that it was not right that I be singled out and he be ignored. This is not about your ruling towards my posts, but your lack of one towards his. I already quoted his threat, it was wrong.


Again, I am NOT complaining about being warned or anything, but about him NOT being warned and him thinking he can continue to physically threaten people and get away with it. I am not being unreasonable here.

Yes you did, though you deleted it afterwards.



Ooops. I forgot about that. Like I said, I should have ignored him. I won't deny I should have ignored him and not have posted that. But in my defense he did threaten me first and he never deleted his and admitted he shouldn't have said it, I did.

Problems with your post



1. It wasn't a flame but a complaint
Flame: Expressing anger at someone in uncouth ways with OOC (out-of-character) comments (i.e. swearing, being obnoxious, threatening etc). It does to watch what you post IC (in-character) as well unless the other posters know you're not serious. You do not need to curse to be a flamer. Erudite slams while maintaining a veneer of politeness can also be considered flaming. Flaming in the forums should be reported in the Moderation forum, in the game itself, through Getting Help Page. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8784641&postcount=3
Seems like you expressed anger in uncouth ways, and calling someone biased for warning you that you're close to crossing the line couldn't possibly be considered obnoxious, could it?
2. Frisbeeteria flamed and flamebaited me
We've already disposed of flame; Frisbeeteria did not express anger at you in a hostile, threatening or obnoxious way.
Flamebait: Posts that are made with the aim of angering someone indirectly. Not outright flame, but still liable to bring angry replies. Flame baiting is a far more subtle and covert action; it is an underhanded tactic that is designed to provoke a response from another player. It's in the same context of trolling but with flamebaiting it's just the one person.http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8784641&postcount=3
So, in fact, Frisbeeteria did not flamebait you; however, stating that he is unqualified for his job, unfair in his enforcement, and that all moderators are unfair would, in fact, count as flamebait. So would calling people "kid" repeatedly.
3. Frisbeeteria ignored flames and threats on me and zoned in on mePerhaps because without your uncouth and hostile posting style, which includes calling people morons, idiots, immature, telling them to pull their heads out of their asses and to grow up, there would have been no response?
4. I pointed out the flaws in Frisbeeteria's logic and mod actionsActually, what you fail to realize is that what you pointed out was your own behavior. It appears you didn't like being asked to play nicely and warned that continuing in this vein will have consequences, and responded by attacking the judgment and trying to deflect attention from your bad behavior by yelling about the person who warned you, and yelling about the person who responded to your provocation.
5. Mod bias is not a flame but a valid complaint and very true here. read the other posters offending posts.5.Mod Oppression and Mod Bias: NationStates moderation is based on acting against rule-breaking in the games and the forums. Political opinions do not factor into official decisions by moderators. We make our rulings and interpretations as official representatives of NationStates, and are acting in the name of Max Barry. Our only agenda is RULES ENFORCEMENT. It's often the case that posters who lack the control to post within the rules also hold strong opinions on other matters, and it may appear that the mods are suppressing a particular viewpoint. This is NOT the case. Anyone who shares that viewpoint and manages to post within the rules is welcome to express their opinion. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8784670&postcount=7
Next point?
6. Doesn't matter. Frisbeeteria has made it clear right wingers of any sort are not welcome here, this is why I was singled out and the other poster got away with threatening me. 6. That, sir, is patently untrue. What he has said is unacceptable is your using the word Democrap, as well as your hostile posting style. It is clearly meant to be insulting, and that fact is that you refuse to avoid being intentionally insulting will result in your being removed if you choose to continue.

A number of the moderators on this team ARE conservatives, and chosen specifically so that there is a spectrum of viewpoints, so your belief that there is a moderation bias against the right is uninformed.

Mod Bias, if thats a flame....It shows complaining on how the mods do their job is a no no.
No, it shows that rather than accept responsibility for your words and actions, you'd rather flail around and blame everyone around you for AN UNOFFICIAL WARNING.

You have a perfect right to appeal an unofficial warning. It's possible that the panel convened will disagree with two senior game mods and a forum mod. I think it hardly likely, but anything is possible.

You've now had three moderation opinions as well as some other posters, including neo-con posters, telling you to cool it. Do yourself a favor and rethink your position.

Nice to know threatening people physically is ok here.:rolleyes: I stand by my complaint and of mod bias. He crossed the line and the mods here don't care because he did it at a right winger. Nice to know not ONE mod even attempted to say he crossed the line and his threat was uncalled for and in violation of the rules. 3 mods doesn't mean you are right, it is clear here that you are not. And I have yet to see any reason to see why any of you should be mods. That is a fact which all 3 of you have proven here. The fact you you allow physically threats has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt you are bias and are not worthy of the spot you currently hold.

At this point, I honestly feel sorry for you -- you have no idea of how ridiculous you sound.

You've been told a great deal more politely than your responses have been what the problem is, and it is your behavior.

Cause and effect apparently have no meaning for you in that you refuse to see that your threat and your hostility caused the hostile response.

It's also apparent that anything that deviates from your perception of how the world ought to work is simply ignored or blown completely out of proportion.

I suggest you step away from the keyboard and look at this more objectively at another time.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12677872&postcount=38
Oh? take a week off for flaming.
[further edit]Bye-bye.[/further edit]

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12677872&postcount=38
Oh? take a week off for flaming.

sorry, I know you guys said mods only... but looks like he left a mess in General...

Thanks for sorting it yourselves. :)

Thanks for sorting it yourselves. :)

I told you sometimes my horse is so high I don't get enough oxygen.

See, level heads can rule the day.

Even if General exploded.

For what it's worth, I'm not real proud of my words. I let him piss me off, and reacted badly. I'll try to keep my temper in the future.

The reason UnHoly Smite's last post was deleted further contributes to my belief that Tsaraine is an evil god of sarcasm. He rocks.

I'll delete this post if we aren't to the chummy part of long moderation threads yet.

*smacks Maineiacs on wrist*

Next time, don't respond in kind.

*smacks Maineiacs on wrist*

Next time, don't respond in kind.

Yes, Ma'am.

*smacks Maineiacs on wrist*

MOD BIAS!!!!

I think since the joking the mods thread turned into the mod bias thread I think the mod bias thread should turn into the jokng the mods thread. You know, just to balance the universe. Where is CG?

*Pantses Ardchoille*

Lol.