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Unacceptable

Crazy girl
19-05-2007, 14:12
This is an official complaint concerning The Most Glorious Hack.. He is a moderator with a sense of humor, I find this unacceptable. Please remove him from the mod team at once, and give me his position.
Axis Nova
19-05-2007, 14:35
spam in moderation is a bad idea
Katganistan
19-05-2007, 15:46
Complaint noted, and complainer dipped in dark chocolate.
Erastide
19-05-2007, 15:59
Mmmmm yummy.
Ardchoille
19-05-2007, 16:06
Crazy Girl, you know better than that! Give us some links, why doncha!

(Oh, dear. No, I didn't mean that. Not, like, real links.)

(See, this is why only Game Mods or above are allowed to have a sense of humour. People like me would just abuse the privilege.)
Zarakon
19-05-2007, 17:52
Crazy Girl, you know better than that! Give us some links, why doncha!

(Oh, dear. No, I didn't mean that. Not, like, real links.)

(See, this is why only Game Mods or above are allowed to have a sense of humour. People like me would just abuse the privilege.)

Hey, you don't have a title yet! What's up with that?
Jocabia
19-05-2007, 18:14
Complaint noted, and complainer dipped in dark chocolate.

Oh, that's so sweet.

Personally, I'd prefer Kat dipped in dark chocolate. TMGH is more a powdered sugar kind of a dip.
Frisbeeteria
19-05-2007, 19:08
Reread the response. Crazy Girl was the one who got dipped.

Given that you hear much more about the quality of Dutch chocolade than you do about Chicago confectioneries, probably a good call. If however you'd like to see Hack topped with mustard, onion, sweet pickle relish, a dill pickle spear, tomato wedges, sport peppers, and a dash of celery salt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago-style_hot_dog) on a poppy-seed bun, you'd most likely get some mutual agreement.
Jocabia
19-05-2007, 19:14
Reread the response. Crazy Girl was the one who got dipped.

Given that you hear much more about the quality of Dutch chocolade than you do about Chicago confectioneries, probably a good call. If however you'd like to see Hack topped with mustard, onion, sweet pickle relish, a dill pickle spear, tomato wedges, sport peppers, and a dash of celery salt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago-style_hot_dog) on a poppy-seed bun, you'd most likely get some mutual agreement.

Ha. And I lose yet another debate due to lack of care.

And did you just explain to me what a chicago-style hot dog is? Do you know where I'm from?
Frisbeeteria
19-05-2007, 19:23
And did you just explain to me what a chicago-style hot dog is? Do you know where I'm from?

Not necessarily just to you, and no, I didn't know where you were from. However, now everyone who reads this topic will know the absurdity of what you mid-westerners do to an innocent hot dog. German mustard and sauerkraut is all a proper dog needs, not being dragged through the garden.
Jocabia
19-05-2007, 19:26
Not necessarily just to you, and no, I didn't know where you were from. However, now everyone who reads this topic will know the absurdity of what you mid-westerners do to an innocent hot dog. German mustard and sauerkraut is all a proper dog needs, not being dragged through the garden.

I'd like to report Fris for flamebaiting all Chicagoans. Cuz if you think you can insult our hot dogs or our pizza and not get us to flaming and swearing, you got another thing coming.

Poo. Doggone. Frak. You're a bad person with poor taste.

(Sorry. My mother taught grade school for a bit so I suck at flaming.)

And the hot dogs like the company in our engorged bellies.
Katganistan
19-05-2007, 23:06
Not necessarily just to you, and no, I didn't know where you were from. However, now everyone who reads this topic will know the absurdity of what you mid-westerners do to an innocent hot dog. German mustard and sauerkraut is all a proper dog needs, not being dragged through the garden.

A-men, brotha! Can I get a halleluia?!
JuNii
19-05-2007, 23:15
This is an official complaint concerning The Most Glorious Hack.. He is a moderator with a sense of humor, I find this unacceptable. Please remove him from the mod team at once, and give me his position.

:confused:

*Reads Fris', Ardchoille, Kat's, and Erastide's posts...*

and TMGH is the one with the sense of humor?!?!

*put's sprinkles on Chocolate dipped Crazy Girl* :D
Jocabia
19-05-2007, 23:16
A-men, brotha! Can I get a halleluia?!

And you're reported too. Trolling Chicagoans in moderation is not very wise. You're practically insulting my children (if I had children). I'm so upset I peed a little.
Dinaverg
19-05-2007, 23:16
I am compelled to add that Michigan had nothing to do with this 'Chicago Hot Dog' of which you speak, despite it's obvious position in the previously addressed 'midwest'.
Katganistan
19-05-2007, 23:43
I feel compelled to observe that Michigan is split on this issue....


...and every other.

:D
Jocabia
19-05-2007, 23:45
I am compelled to add that Michigan had nothing to do with this 'Chicago Hot Dog' of which you speak, despite it's obvious position in the previously addressed 'midwest'.

Yeah. Two mods trolling Michigan by suggesting they have something to do with our amazing hot dogs. How many people on this forum are from the midwest and got insulted by this unscrupulous mod behavior. All hidden behind the sweetness of chocolate dipping. Boo.
Dread Lady Nathicana
20-05-2007, 01:10
The argument is moot. Hot-dogs are of the devil. *shudders* Cheddarwursts all the way. We wubs you guys anyways, regardless of terrible taste. :p

"You know what the gourmet here wanted? Hotdogs! You know what they're made of, Chet? Huh? Lips and assholes!" -- The Great Outdoors

... *runs like hell now*
Ardchoille
20-05-2007, 03:14
Hey, you don't have a title yet! What's up with that?

It's because mere words cannot encompass my modly awesomeness. Der!

I think it's one of those 'NS proposes, but Jolt disposes' things. But I've got a working title. Reppy gave it to me yesterday.

*checks mirror to read writing on forehead*

Yeah, it says, "!ouY !yeH"
The Most Glorious Hack
20-05-2007, 04:55
German mustard and sauerkraut is all a proper dog needs, not being dragged through the garden.No, that's what you put on a brat. Noob.
Shazbotdom
20-05-2007, 05:47
...................Best



Thread


...................Ever
Zarakon
20-05-2007, 06:22
...................Best



Thread


...................Ever

That is exactly what I was gonna say...:(

Do you think we could convince the mods to never lock this thread, and just leave it floating around moderation?
Posi
20-05-2007, 06:40
This is the most delicious thread I have ever read.
Troglobites
20-05-2007, 07:05
I feel compelled to observe that Michigan is split on this issue....


...and every other.

:D

:confused: Elaborate, please.
I prefer MY hotdog with chili, onions and mustard.:D
and, yes, I'm in/from michigan.
Crazy girl
20-05-2007, 09:06
Meh, not the first insane thread I made here :D

A thread to keep the pretty pink NS skin we had then:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=475587

Bets for the Modolympics:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=443728

Hate thread for Euroslavia (he was complaining about not having one yet)
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=435872

Me demanding my magic powahs:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=434377

Messed up poll:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=434572
Crazy girl
20-05-2007, 09:09
Also......





OMG ARDCHOILLE IS A MOD WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN CONGRATS TO YOU!:eek:
Jocabia
20-05-2007, 09:10
No, that's what you put on a brat. Noob.

I was thinking the same, but absent a mod title on an internet forum, why would anyone trust my judgement of the value of certain toppings on a hot dog or bratwurst (da bratsssss)?

Oh, in case anyone forgot... MOD BIAS!!!!111SHIFT11!
Crazy girl
20-05-2007, 09:11
Meh, hotdog or bratwurst is nothing. Try a frikandel.
The Most Glorious Hack
20-05-2007, 12:09
Try a frikandel.Are you making up words again?
HC Eredivisie
20-05-2007, 12:14
Are you making up words again?
Google is your friend: Frikandel (http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/Maurieske/Frikandel.jpg)

Delicious.:fluffle:
Katganistan
20-05-2007, 13:15
:confused: Elaborate, please.
I prefer MY hotdog with chili, onions and mustard.:D
and, yes, I'm in/from michigan.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v260/Katganistan/?action=view&current=michigan-map.gif

As you can clearly see.... Michigan is split!
Rubiconic Crossings
20-05-2007, 14:07
So...why is this thread not locked or moved to spam?
The Most Glorious Hack
20-05-2007, 15:18
Maturity is knowing when to be immature.
Rubiconic Crossings
20-05-2007, 15:57
Maturity is knowing when to be immature.

No. Maturity is knowing when its the right time and place to kid around.
Katganistan
20-05-2007, 16:10
Hm, well, concerns moderators... should it be in International Incidents?
Rubiconic Crossings
20-05-2007, 16:20
Hm, well, concerns moderators... should it be in International Incidents?

Well quite honestly I am wondering why this even made three pages here in moderation.

Some consistency might not be a bad thing?

Please understand that I am not ragging on the Mods nor the OP...but when seemingly innocuous threads get moved or locked and then a thread which is spam (and violates the rules regarding posting in moderation I think?) and has heavy mod involvement with the spamming is not locked...well it makes one wonder what actually is acceptable.

I have noticed a tendency for quite random locks and moves of several threads. If I can face censure for posting then I want to be aware of what actually is acceptable.

If I had started this thread in Moderation....or other users would the thread have reached even page two?
Jocabia
20-05-2007, 17:08
Well quite honestly I am wondering why this even made three pages here in moderation.

Some consistency might not be a bad thing?

Please understand that I am not ragging on the Mods nor the OP...but when seemingly innocuous threads get moved or locked and then a thread which is spam (and violates the rules regarding posting in moderation I think?) and has heavy mod involvement with the spamming is not locked...well it makes one wonder what actually is acceptable.

I have noticed a tendency for quite random locks and moves of several threads. If I can face censure for posting then I want to be aware of what actually is acceptable.

If I had started this thread in Moderation....or other users would the thread have reached even page two?

You've been around a while. Pay attention. You'll notice that spam is always one of those judgement calls. Mods aren't against spam always or a lot more threads would end up there. Like every other rule here, the purpose of the spam rules is to keep things clean and keep the forums, each of them, serving there purpose. If you can have a little spammy fun and manage to not get in the way of that, you'll probably not see the thread moved.

Need examples? The hot girls thread. The NS Pub threads. All the threads CG just listed.

The mods aren't generally here to rain on your parade. They are generally the umbrella.
Rubiconic Crossings
20-05-2007, 17:22
Jocabia...I stopped reading your post after the 2nd sentence.

You are not a Mod.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
20-05-2007, 17:32
If I had started this thread in Moderation....or other users would the thread have reached even page two?No.

You've been around a while. Pay attention. You'll notice that spam is always one of those judgement calls. Mods aren't against spam always or a lot more threads would end up there. Like every other rule here, the purpose of the spam rules is to keep things clean and keep the forums, each of them, serving there purpose. If you can have a little spammy fun and manage to not get in the way of that, you'll probably not see the thread moved.

Need examples? The hot girls thread. The NS Pub threads. All the threads CG just listed.

The mods aren't generally here to rain on your parade. They are generally the umbrella.Except of course you're confusing General with the Moderation forum.

I'm all for the mods having a little spammy fun, it makes the whole thing more enjoyable for everybody, and I much enjoy reading the occasional thread here that veers off into some hilarious direction for a couple pages until the spammage gets old and it's locked.

Threads like this, however? A bit of a farce, really, to put it diplomatically.
Jocabia
20-05-2007, 17:38
No.

Except of course you're confusing General with the Moderation forum.

I'm all for the mods having a little spammy fun, it makes the whole thing more enjoyable for everybody, and I much enjoy reading the occasional thread here that veers off into some hilarious direction for a couple pages until the spammage gets old and it's locked.

Threads like this, however? A bit of a farce, really, to put it diplomatically.

Threads in the moderation forum do the same, only involving the mods. And the part that's being ignored is that when they do actually reach a point where they've served there purpose they also get locked. Again, example - http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=434572
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=434377
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=435872

Same poster. Same KIND of thread. So much for mod "bias". As per "If I had started this thread in Moderation....or other users would the thread have reached even page two?" I think it's pretty clear that the SAME user can get locked on the first page or not, so the implication that it lasted this long because it's CG is proven to be false.
Rubiconic Crossings
20-05-2007, 18:23
Threads in the moderation forum do the same, only involving the mods. And the part that's being ignored is that when they do actually reach a point where they've served there purpose they also get locked. Again, example - http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=434572
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=434377
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=435872

Same poster. Same KIND of thread. So much for mod "bias". As per "If I had started this thread in Moderation....or other users would the thread have reached even page two?" I think it's pretty clear that the SAME user can get locked on the first page or not, so the implication that it lasted this long because it's CG is proven to be false.

Amazing. You are the only person who mentions Mod bias. I am not saying that there is Mod bias. I don't think there is. And even mooting the question of Mod bias is just plain silly and aggravates people.

If you had actually bothered to read my post, ask for clarification of the areas you are not sure of then I would not think you are just a Mod wannabe.

Now to give you some insight of what I am wondering about.

There have been threads that are seemingly arbitrarily being moved to spam. Some are not. All I am asking for is some kind of clarification. I do not want to get zapped or told off for spam. Yet I see here a thread that is spam. That also has massive Mod input.

You are not in a position to state anything regarding Mod action as you are not a Mod and therefore not able to speak for them in this particular case.

I am not a killjoy...I think the Mods should have the opportunity to have some fun with the people. The question is whether this forum is suitable.
Jocabia
20-05-2007, 18:30
Amazing. You are the only person who mentions Mod bias. I am not saying that there is Mod bias. I don't think there is. And even mooting the question of Mod bias is just plain silly and aggravates people.

If you had actually bothered to read my post, ask for clarification of the areas you are not sure of then I would not think you are just a Mod wannabe.

Now to give you some insight of what I am wondering about.

There have been threads that are seemingly arbitrarily being moved to spam. Some are not. All I am asking for is some kind of clarification. I do not want to get zapped or told off for spam. Yet I see here a thread that is spam. That also has massive Mod input.

You are not in a position to state anything regarding Mod action as you are not a Mod and therefore not able to speak for them in this particular case.

I am not a killjoy...I think the Mods should have the opportunity to have some fun with the people. The question is whether this forum is suitable.

You mentioned the OP stating that if it were you or anyone else that had posted this thread that it would not have lasted. That's not explicit, but it's certainly implicit.

As for the rest, I think it's pretty clear to anyone with eyes that its a disingenuous attempt to hide your complaint of "but Johnny did it too." Forget that what Johnny did is entirely different and that Johnny in the past has been treated exactly equally to you (as shown in the linked threads).
Dread Lady Nathicana
20-05-2007, 18:32
Another example of how there just ain't no pleasing folks. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. No point in trying to please everyone, because inevitably, SOMEONE will find something to bitch about. Welcome to NationStates. ;)

And for crying out loud, lighten up. Some mild silliness with the mods here is not the same as a thread about 'The color green - discuss' or the like in General. Yeesh. If Moderation, which is the Mod public forum isn't the place, where in hell is?
Vittos the City Sacker
20-05-2007, 18:34
I am not a killjoy...I think the Mods should have the opportunity to have some fun with the people. The question is whether this forum is suitable.

If the purpose of this forum was being lost in spam I might be inclined to agree with you, but the mods know their job and won't let that happen.

And I agree with the mods, I left Illinois for Georgia just so I could have a reasonable hot dog without be looked down upon.
Rubiconic Crossings
20-05-2007, 18:36
You mentioned the OP stating that if it were you or anyone else that had posted this thread that it would not have lasted. That's not explicit, but it's certainly implicit.

As for the rest, I think it's pretty clear to anyone with eyes that its a disingenuous attempt to hide your complaint of "but Johnny did it too." Forget that what Johnny did is entirely different and that Johnny in the past has been treated exactly equally to you (as shown in the linked threads).

Huh??

What are you babbling about mate? I have not had a thread moved to spam nor locked (as far as I am aware).

Nor am I complaining. I am asking for clarification.

You really ought to stop getting involved in things beyond your ken.
Jocabia
20-05-2007, 18:41
If the purpose of this forum was being lost in spam I might be inclined to agree with you, but the mods know their job and won't let that happen.

And I agree with the mods, I left Illinois for Georgia just so I could have a reasonable hot dog without be looked down upon.

And that's the first thing you've ever said that actually makes me not like the man behind the post. Boo.

As to the complaint, when someone starts to throw out personal barbs at people for disagreeing with him and ignores all evidence or attempts to offer links for the clarification he supposedly is trying to gain, I think it really is time to ignore it and let the mods deal with it. Apparently, he hasn't read that part of the OSRS that says that reasoned replies are welcome if you provide specific examples.
Rubiconic Crossings
20-05-2007, 18:43
Another example of how there just ain't no pleasing folks. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. No point in trying to please everyone, because inevitably, SOMEONE will find something to bitch about. Welcome to NationStates. ;)

Great contribution. Not. Thanks Bye.

And for crying out loud, lighten up. Some mild silliness with the mods here is not the same as a thread about 'The color green - discuss' or the like in General. Yeesh. If Moderation, which is the Mod public forum isn't the place, where in hell is?

My dear...I am really not sure what this brings to the discussion beyond yet another thought of....fuck me not another cook. Oh and thanks for the size 0 font. Very clever. I bow to your utterly brilliant posting abilities.

How many times have people been warned about spamming in Moderation? Quite a few over the years.

If the purpose of this forum was being lost in spam I might be inclined to agree with you, but the mods know their job and won't let that happen.

And I agree with the mods, I left Illinois for Georgia just so I could have a reasonable hot dog without be looked down upon.

Sure. And what was an innocuous question has now turned into a circle jerk.

Regards hotdogs...well...everyone knows that the best is bockwurst ;)
Jocabia
20-05-2007, 18:52
Seriously, do you think being abusive and personally insulting in moderation is wise or AT ALL helps your case? I've noticed that whenever anyone asks what they claim is an "innocuous question" and gets pissed whenever anyone disagrees that it is rarely innocuous or a question.

Meanwhile, I sort of agree about the wurst. I don't think they're the best, but they're in the running.
Rubiconic Crossings
20-05-2007, 19:05
And that's the first thing you've ever said that actually makes me not like the man behind the post. Boo.

As to the complaint, when someone starts to throw out personal barbs at people for disagreeing with him and ignores all evidence or attempts to offer links for the clarification he supposedly is trying to gain, I think it really is time to ignore it and let the mods deal with it. Apparently, he hasn't read that part of the OSRS that says that reasoned replies are welcome if you provide specific examples.

What...like 'you've been here a while. Now pay attention'? You forgot or don't know that I signed up well before you.

The other issue is that quite frankly you do not seem to understand that I am asking a pretty simple question...not accusing the Mods of bias or that they are doing a bad job or any of the other multitude of schemes you seem to think I (or even others who ask pretty straightforward questions) have.
Rubiconic Crossings
20-05-2007, 19:10
Seriously, do you think being abusive and personally insulting in moderation is wise or AT ALL helps your case? I've noticed that whenever anyone asks what they claim is an "innocuous question" and gets pissed whenever anyone disagrees that it is rarely innocuous or a question.

Meanwhile, I sort of agree about the wurst. I don't think they're the best, but they're in the running.

What case? There is no case! I am not making a case...I am asking a pretty straightforward question for clarification.

You are not disagreeing with me...you are either looking for a scrap or are too dense to realise that I am asking a simple question or have been involved in Moderation so long that you have become paranoid.
Vittos the City Sacker
20-05-2007, 19:13
I don't think consistency from a thread to thread standpoint is all that important as long as the forums keep on an even keel. In fact I think any real consistency from thread to thread is about impossible.

And in the interests of friendly resolution and consensus, I think we can all agree on the complete inferiority of vienna sausages:

http://www.switcheroo.com/Photos/viennasausages.jpg
Jocabia
20-05-2007, 19:15
What...like 'you've been here a while. Now pay attention'? You forgot or don't know that I signed up well before you.

The other issue is that quite frankly you do not seem to understand that I am asking a pretty simple question...not accusing the Mods of bias or that they are doing a bad job or any of the other multitude of schemes you seem to think I (or even others who ask pretty straightforward questions) have.

You have been here awhile and if you did pay attention you'd notice the things I did. That's not an insult. It's a claim. You might not agree with it, but it's hardly insulting or even aggressive. What you have to say on the matter is no less than abusive and pretty clearly personally insulting - wannabe mod, "I bow to your utterly brilliant posting abilities.", "are too dense", "you have become paranoid", et al. But, hey, must be me looking for a scrap rather than you who have attacked anyone whose opinion you didn't like.

By the way, I've never spoken for the mods. I used explicit examples because doing so allows the mods (as I actually linked to them acting) to speak for themselves.

The rest is just my opinion on the subject in a thread that was NOT created for your bitch session. If you'd really wanted to ask your "innocuous question" without other than mod input there is, in fact, a way to do so.
Xiscapia
20-05-2007, 19:15
...



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Jocabia
20-05-2007, 19:32
I don't think consistency from a thread to thread standpoint is all that important as long as the forums keep on an even keel. In fact I think any real consistency from thread to thread is about impossible.

And in the interests of friendly resolution and consensus, I think we can all agree on the complete inferiority of vienna sausages:

http://www.switcheroo.com/Photos/viennasausages.jpg

The mods regularly point out the importance of context. One statement could be completely reasonable in another context but a flame in the context it was placed. Threads on the same subject have had one locked while another continues because a slight difference in style or content. Spam is an even more squishy issue. That's why mods are people rather than a computing engine that just looks for certain aspects that make a thread or post illegal.
Rubiconic Crossings
20-05-2007, 19:44
You have been here awhile and if you did pay attention you'd notice the things I did. That's not an insult. It's a claim. You might not agree with it, but it's hardly insulting or even aggressive. What you have to say on the matter is no less than abusive and pretty clearly personally insulting - wannabe mod, "I bow to your utterly brilliant posting abilities.", "are too dense", "you have become paranoid", et al. But, hey, must be me looking for a scrap rather than you who have attacked anyone whose opinion you didn't like.

By the way, I've never spoken for the mods. I used explicit examples because doing so allows the mods (as I actually linked to them acting) to speak for themselves.

The rest is just my opinion on the subject in a thread that was NOT created for your bitch session. If you'd really wanted to ask your "innocuous question" without other than mod input there is, in fact, a way to do so.

Wannabe Mod - you sure act like one. That is my opinion.
Dense - Yes as you obviously (after I explained my question on more than one occasion) are unable to comprehend what I am posting.
Posting abilities - size 0 text...yeah I think I am justified in stating my observation.
Paranoid - well...you do seem to spend an awful lot of time getting involved in threads here in Moderation. That was also an observation as you just keep coming back arguing some point that really never existed in the first place.

That is the way I am...direct and to the point with an extreme dislike of bullshit. In real life and on the net. Deal.

Insults - what insults? Did I say I felt insulted? No.

Attacking opinions? err...no...I was 'attacking' your entire premise.

You are looking for stuff that is just not there hence me thinking you are looking for a scrap.

Now lets drop this spat, continue to be friendly in NSG and let the Mods speak for themselves. Yes?
Jocabia
20-05-2007, 19:59
Wannabe Mod - you sure act like one. That is my opinion.
Dense - Yes as you obviously (after I explained my question on more than one occasion) are unable to comprehend what I am posting.
Posting abilities - size 0 text...yeah I think I am justified in stating my observation.
Paranoid - well...you do seem to spend an awful lot of time getting involved in threads here in Moderation. That was also an observation as you just keep coming back arguing some point that really never existed in the first place.

That is the way I am...direct and to the point with an extreme dislike of bullshit. In real life and on the net. Deal.

Insults - what insults? Did I say I felt insulted? No.

Attacking opinions? err...no...I was 'attacking' your entire premise.

You are looking for stuff that is just not there hence me thinking you are looking for a scrap.

Now lets drop this spat, continue to be friendly in NSG and let the Mods speak for themselves. Yes?

You repeat your flames and even up some of them a notch. I don't think flames in moderation are for me to drop or not drop.

I offered that you were throwing personal barbs (another name for insults) and you said "like..." and gave my statement as an example, thus calling it an insult. I explained how it's not and now you agree it's not. Kind of makes it seems like you've gotten so incensed that you're not really taking the time to make consistent posts.

As far as attacking opinions, you've attacked the POSTERS for disagreeing with you. Not their opinion, but the poster. Not just me. Every poster who's disagreed. You've done a lot more than attack premises (which incidentally, since you've pointed out I'm not a mod, is only an opinion).

This isn't a spat. This is you blatantly saying that if another poster other than CG had posted this thread it would have been modded (mod bias by definition) and then getting pissed and abusive when people weighed on your question, your assumptions and your comments.

Your goal whether it be to get a question answered or to just bitch about how the mods do their business is not aided nor lent credibility by your behavior. That's not an opinon. That's a fact.
Frisbeeteria
20-05-2007, 20:03
Jocabia...I stopped reading your post after the 2nd sentence.

You are not a Mod.You really ought to stop getting involved in things beyond your ken.Great contribution. Not. Thanks Bye.

Enough. Here's your clarification.

We're very much in favor of players policing players. Pointing out the rules and precedents in these forums is a form of courteous behavior. We welcome input in Moderation threads too, when the original post isn't "mods only", which this one wasn't.

As for the spammy nature of this thread, we don't care. It's not interfering with our ability to handle this weekend's caseload. It's not causing problems in other forums. As judgment calls go, this one is pretty simple and obvious. It's not fluffles. It's not image spam. It's not somebody blogging their personal life to the exclusion of discussion. Apart from your pickiness, it's mostly just a bit of fun at the partial expense of some of the mods, and we're perfectly content to be the butt of mild jokes like this one.

As for the participants of this thread, or any other player with insight into a moderation question, they are welcome to post where it's permissible ... just as they always have been.
Crazy girl
20-05-2007, 20:10
I bow to the lack of sense of humor of this person. You would make a great mod.




Also...are those Vienna saucages even edible? :eek:
Jocabia
20-05-2007, 20:13
I bow to the lack of sense of humor of this person. You would make a great mod.




Also...are those Vienna saucages even edible? :eek:

I have to say for a frequent traveller who has had to make a meal out of a gas station mini-mart on many a late-night trip, yes, they are edible. If you're starving these things are like little bits of heaven. If you're not, well, I can't describe them without swearing.
Crazy girl
20-05-2007, 20:15
Thanks for the clarification, saves me from actually trying them :D
Rubiconic Crossings
20-05-2007, 20:36
I bow to the lack of sense of humor of this person. You would make a great mod.

Also...are those Vienna saucages even edible? :eek:

mmmm...actually I have a great sense of humour. You can ask the posters who have met me in real life at the NSG meet in London.

No..I am an utter bastard as a mod and there is no way I would do it again.

CG - its a question regarding if this is an appropriate forum for such threads/posts given that people have been warned/had threads closed.

Its nothing to do with you personally (in fact I don't think I have ever interacted with you before).

If you do/did then I apologise but it really is nothing to do with you personally.
Crazy girl
20-05-2007, 20:38
You are forgiven. Now use that sense of humor and have some fun ;)
Rubiconic Crossings
20-05-2007, 20:57
Enough. Here's your clarification.

We're very much in favor of players policing players. Pointing out the rules and precedents in these forums is a form of courteous behavior. We welcome input in Moderation threads too, when the original post isn't "mods only", which this one wasn't.

As for the spammy nature of this thread, we don't care. It's not interfering with our ability to handle this weekend's caseload. It's not causing problems in other forums. As judgment calls go, this one is pretty simple and obvious. It's not fluffles. It's not image spam. It's not somebody blogging their personal life to the exclusion of discussion. Apart from your pickiness, it's mostly just a bit of fun at the partial expense of some of the mods, and we're perfectly content to be the butt of mild jokes like this one.

As for the participants of this thread, or any other player with insight into a moderation question, they are welcome to post where it's permissible ... just as they always have been.

Ok thanks. So let me get this right to avoid future confusion....

Its ok to spam moderation under certain circumstances...they being dependent on how much work you folks have, that there is no image spam (what difference is there between image and text spam in this case?), blogging, or fluffles (which I admit to still being rather confused about...but hey...I'm old!)....is that what you are saying?

Seriously?

So...given there is no indication of your work load as far as I am aware its really a pot luck kind of thing?

And before you or anyone else gets their knickers in a twist again please note I am only asking questions...I was not making accusations or looking at a way to get one over on the Mods. I am concerned in grokking the rules so I do not break them.

Surely that has to be fair enough?

Regarding the policing of players by players - I never had an issue with that...I do however have an issue when a player policing another player is unable to grasp the basics of the issue. Hence my request for Mod input. After all you folks are the dealers out of...errr....justice....not players. Is that really such a huge crime to warrant nearly a page and half of crap?

My pickiness - sorry but that is unjustified. I never said it was a bad thing to have fun with the Mods, I only wondered if moderation was the correct forum. In fact I think it would be great to be able to have more interaction with Mods...for laughs and giggles to discussing issues.

Regarding my comment about if another poster had started this thread and it getting locked was not an accusation of Mod bias. I don't think I have ever seen bias from mods here. If there was I would not be posting here. I was wondering why, if others had been warned about spamming moderation, why the thread was still alive.
Rubiconic Crossings
20-05-2007, 20:59
You are forgiven. Now use that sense of humor and have some fun ;)

Danke ye vel! (ok...I probably bollocksed that up as well! LOL)

Have fun? Indeed...in a weeks time I shall have moved to the Netherlands ;)
Vittos the City Sacker
20-05-2007, 21:11
Thanks for the clarification, saves me from actually trying them :D

If you ever do, make sure you try the jelly/juice that they come in, just so you know what it feels like to vomit with your mouth closed.
Dread Lady Nathicana
20-05-2007, 21:19
Well, I could respond to the earlier childishness by stick-in-the-mud over there, but seeing as it's already been handily well ... handled by someone with authority, and it really isn't worth getting further into it, though he seems dead-set on continuing to dig ... meh. *grins*

I still stand firmly on the cheddarwurst front. Vienna sausages? Hot dogs? Simply cannot compare to the delicious flavour of good sausage with the cheesey goodness of cheddar roasted proper over a grill or campfire. ^_^

BBQ sauce only, please. Mustard is just plain nasty, and ketchup has no place mucking up the already tasty ensemble.

STILL ... I can attest to the sense of humor on behalf of several Moderators. Surely this travesty cannot be allowed to continue. Authority figures, even unpaid volunteer ones, need to be ISLANDS OF STONE in the sea of frippery and chaos that are the forums. Beatings with the Pillow of Punishment will commence until such behaviour has been remedied. (Yes, that means you Hack, and Kat, and even Fris. I know where to find you. Muahaha. *brandishes pillow*)
Crazy girl
20-05-2007, 21:24
Ah, it is good to see someone understands the importance of keeping the mods humorless. How have you been, Lady Nathi?
Jocabia
20-05-2007, 21:35
I'm saying that Ard chick needs to knock it off. Not only are mods to be humorless, but moderation must be as well, so she's doubly-guilty. You've accepted the position, now leave your old and crooked ways behind, Ard.
Dread Lady Nathicana
20-05-2007, 21:37
Quite well thank you, though we ought to see you around more. Hope your puppies are well. Ours seem to be quite happy, especially with the new wading pool we just got them. ^_^

*hands CG a pillow* Down with Mod Humor, I say! Let the beatings commence!
Demonic Gophers
20-05-2007, 21:40
The following is only my assessment of the situation, and has absolutely no authority behind it. I claim no special understanding of the Mods (and I still haven't gotten my magical powers!).

Ok thanks. So let me get this right to avoid future confusion....

Its ok to spam moderation under certain circumstances...they being dependent on how much work you folks have,

I would guess that that has more to do with the activity of the Mods in the thread than with the fact that they consider it acceptable.

that there is no image spam (what difference is there between image and text spam in this case?),

For one thing, images take longer to load, especially for people with slow internet connections.

blogging, or fluffles (which I admit to still being rather confused about...but hey...I'm old!)

[snip]

So...given there is no indication of your work load as far as I am aware its really a pot luck kind of thing?

If the Moderation forum is busy and has many active threads, posting a joke thread would probably be a bad plan. If there are only a few threads that have seen activity in the past couple days, throwing in a bit of fun seems more likely to be allowed. After all, it's not like it will be bumping more important topics off the first page.

And before you or anyone else gets their knickers in a twist again please note I am only asking questions...I was not making accusations or looking at a way to get one over on the Mods. I am concerned in grokking the rules so I do not break them.

Surely that has to be fair enough?

.... Yeah, this certainly looks like a simple, innocent question:

....is that what you are saying?

Seriously?

Regarding the policing of players by players - I never had an issue with that...I do however have an issue when a player policing another player is unable to grasp the basics of the issue. Hence my request for Mod input. After all you folks are the dealers out of...errr....justice....not players. Is that really such a huge crime to warrant nearly a page and half of crap?

My pickiness - sorry but that is unjustified. I never said it was a bad thing to have fun with the Mods, I only wondered if moderation was the correct forum.

Sure, as long as it doesn't get in the way of official business. Seems like it's related to Moderation to me; where would you rather have it put?

In fact I think it would be great to be able to have more interaction with Mods...for laughs and giggles to discussing issues.

On this I agree with you completely. Sadly our honored Mods' duties generally keep them too busy to spend much time chatting...


Regarding my comment about if another poster had started this thread and it getting locked was not an accusation of Mod bias. I don't think I have ever seen bias from mods here. If there was I would not be posting here. I was wondering why, if others had been warned about spamming moderation, why the thread was still alive.

Well, there are different sorts of spam, and I expect it depends partly on how busy the Mod forum is. I can't say for certain, of course, not being a Mod.


Now, on the actual topic: but humor among the NS Moderators has established historical precedent!
Rubiconic Crossings
20-05-2007, 21:41
Well, I could respond to the earlier childishness by stick-in-the-mud over there, but seeing as it's already been handily well ... handled by someone with authority, and it really isn't worth getting further into it, though he seems dead-set on continuing to dig ... meh. *grins*

I still stand firmly on the cheddarwurst front. Vienna sausages? Hot dogs? Simply cannot compare to the delicious flavour of good sausage with the cheesey goodness of cheddar roasted proper over a grill or campfire. ^_^

BBQ sauce only, please. Mustard is just plain nasty, and ketchup has no place mucking up the already tasty ensemble.

STILL ... I can attest to the sense of humor on behalf of several Moderators. Surely this travesty cannot be allowed to continue. Authority figures, even unpaid volunteer ones, need to be ISLANDS OF STONE in the sea of frippery and chaos that are the forums. Beatings with the Pillow of Punishment will commence until such behaviour has been remedied. (Yes, that means you Hack, and Kat, and even Fris. I know where to find you. Muahaha. *brandishes pillow*)

Childish? Like your size 0 text? :rolleyes:
Jocabia
20-05-2007, 21:51
Childish? Like your size 0 text? :rolleyes:

Yet another post in moderation solely aimed at personal attacks. I'm curious how long you'll be permitted to continue this practice.

Honestly, you say you have an innocuous purpose, but you spend your time actively attacking people. Admittedly, her comment wasn't much better, but it was one. Yours are present in every post.
Dread Lady Nathicana
20-05-2007, 21:52
If you have a hard time reading size 0 Gramps, get out your glasses. Shows up just fine on my screen. ;) Criminy, but you seem to have a burr up your backside over piddly things. Childish - as in your constant whining and rules-lawyering over things that have already been covered. Please note, at least I've refrained from size-changing since it seemed to offend so. Can't say as much for your continued ... what's a good term for it. Sniping? Any clarity achieved?

*lies in wait for certain folks to show up, pillow still firmly in hand* >_>

PS - Jocabia. Lighten up, man. Never needed help beating off the grumpies before, don't need it now, thanks anyways. :)
Crazy girl
20-05-2007, 21:55
*takes pillow, accidently hits Nathi with it*


Oops! :D
Demonic Gophers
20-05-2007, 21:57
*Starts digging tunnel to undermine the Anti-Mod Pillow Ambush*
Crazy girl
20-05-2007, 21:59
*sends a snaaaake after the gopher*

O wait, that was the badger song...
Rubiconic Crossings
20-05-2007, 22:06
Yet another post in moderation solely aimed at personal attacks. I'm curious how long you'll be permitted to continue this practice.

Honestly, you say you have an innocuous purpose, but you spend your time actively attacking people. Admittedly, her comment wasn't much better, but it was one. Yours are present in every post.

And you are entirely incorrect. So much for your credibility.

If you have a hard time reading size 0 Gramps, get out your glasses. Shows up just fine on my screen. ;) Criminy, but you seem to have a burr up your backside over piddly things. Childish - as in your constant whining and rules-lawyering over things that have already been covered. Please note, at least I've refrained from size-changing since it seemed to offend so. Can't say as much for your continued ... what's a good term for it. Sniping? Any clarity achieved?

*lies in wait for certain folks to show up, pillow still firmly in hand* >_>

PS - Jocabia. Lighten up, man. Never needed help beating off the grumpies before, don't need it now, thanks anyways. :)

Hmmmm is this flaming by you?

I have 20/20 vision, I am not a grandfather nor even of the age of a senior citizen, constantly whining...please...links , rules lawyering (please...where?), sniping...only because you and Jocabia are seemingly interested in trolling/flaming me now.

And on the Mod forum. I really would have thought you knew better. Seeing as you seem to crop up in an contentious thread in Moderation.
Demonic Gophers
20-05-2007, 22:07
*Hears slithering behind him*

*Produces miniaturized energy sword*
Jocabia
20-05-2007, 22:12
And you are entirely incorrect. So much for your credibility.



Hmmmm is this flaming by you?

I have 20/20 vision, I am not a grandfather nor even of the age of a senior citizen, constantly whining...please...links , rules lawyering (please...where?), sniping...only because you and Jocabia are seemingly interested in trolling/flaming me now.

And on the Mod forum. I really would have thought you knew better. Seeing as you seem to crop up in an contentious thread in Moderation.

Please quote me trolling or flaming? I think it's interesting that you'd tell her that she take care with flaming in the mod forum, considering your posts thus far. Very interesting. I suggest you ask the mods to review this thread for rule-breaking. That should play well for you.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
20-05-2007, 22:37
Jesus fucking Christ, just how high is that horse of yours, Jocabia?



And yes, we get it, the mods have an awesome sense of humor. Who knew?! Thank God there was this thread in Moderation to remind us! Out of the blue, slightly embarrassing to the outside observer, sure, but hey, can't stop making these fellating threads to remind us ungrateful bastards ever so often. Because observing their sense of humor during the act? Just doesn't cut it.
Dread Lady Nathicana
20-05-2007, 22:39
Hmmmm is this flaming by you?

I have 20/20 vision, I am not a grandfather nor even of the age of a senior citizen, constantly whining...please...links , rules lawyering (please...where?), sniping...only because you and Jocabia are seemingly interested in trolling/flaming me now.

And on the Mod forum. I really would have thought you knew better. Seeing as you seem to crop up in an contentious thread in Moderation.

And I here thought you said you had a sense of humor. Links to that as we've yet to see it? *grins*

CG! TREASON! *runs after CG with the pillow* No whapping the support! How can we forward our cause if you're undermining it, damn your eyes! :p
Vittos the City Sacker
20-05-2007, 22:40
As much as I enjoyed reading this thread when I first found it, I now wish death upon it.
Crazy girl
20-05-2007, 22:44
Sowwy, Nathi!


Also...I don't even like meat. Gimme vanilla ice cream with caramel sauce any day.
Dread Lady Nathicana
20-05-2007, 22:48
Which brings us back to chocolate-dipped CG. Hrm. Fudge, maybe? With the caramel? And some sort of crushed nut topping perhaps? All together with real vanilla ice cream? AND CG? Man, that's almost too sweet. :D

As for the hot dogs/brats/what have you ... maybe you could just give them to your dogs as treats instead?
Jocabia
20-05-2007, 22:55
Jesus fucking Christ, just how high is that horse of yours, Jocabia?



And yes, we get it, the mods have an awesome sense of humor. Who knew?! Thank God there was this thread in Moderation to remind us! Out of the blue, slightly embarrassing to the outside observer, sure, but hey, can't stop making these fellating threads to remind us ungrateful bastards ever so often. Because observing their sense of humor during the act? Just doesn't cut it.

My horse really IS too high. I sometimes don't get enough oxygen. (Feel free to sig that)
Crazy girl
20-05-2007, 22:56
Make saucages of it?

Nathi, no eating CG! :eek:
Jocabia
20-05-2007, 22:57
Which brings us back to chocolate-dipped CG. Hrm. Fudge, maybe? With the caramel? And some sort of crushed nut topping perhaps? All together with real vanilla ice cream? AND CG? Man, that's almost too sweet. :D

As for the hot dogs/brats/what have you ... maybe you could just give them to your dogs as treats instead?

I say we strap vienna sausages to her. That'll learn her. And considering the wolves that wander the forums at night.
Dread Lady Nathicana
20-05-2007, 23:01
I say we strap vienna sausages to her. That'll learn her. And considering the wolves that wander the forums at night.

Now that's just mean. *sends Jocabia's High Horse to the glue factory on account* Besides, wolves? Please. Yapping puppies more like. :p Though I suppose she could get licked to death ...
Frisbeeteria
20-05-2007, 23:10
As much as I enjoyed reading this thread when I first found it, I now wish death upon it.

I can't believe it's come to this, but I agree with Vittos. We're pretty much done here.

Rubiconic Crossings, the next time you come to Moderation to flame people AFTER a specific ruling has been laid down on your behalf ... don't bother. Way to bring utter humorlessness to what was a mildly entertaining thread.

Thread closed.