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Quite frankly...

Jocabia
20-02-2007, 20:32
I'm tired of the constant accusations rather than simply making a substantive post.

He starts his reply to me with no actual arguements, just cute attacks.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12332787&postcount=65

Eventually his entire argument becomes "you're a liar."

Then he starts another thread to "discuss" the topic, including selected quotes of me from the other thread. When I show up to defend my position, rather than substantive posts, I get to hear how I'm too ignorant to argue with.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12348909&postcount=201

He starts slow just suggesting I'm getting a free education.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12349200&postcount=204

Now, you'll notice that he drops more and more arguments substituting personal attacks. Dropping arguments against site rules, but making posts that are solely personal attacks are.

And when, after being accused of being ignorant, I post a substantive post in reply, simply ignoring the attack and get no reply, I include a further post to demonstrate that his tactics are not unique and are simply his modus operandi when a thread is not going his way.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12350271&postcount=210

I should think he should expect such a reply when he makes his entire post about how ignorant I am rather than focusing on the arguments being made.

However, he finally not only accuses me being a greifer (apparently I shouldn't have showed up in the thread where he started out the entire thread talking to me and about me), flamebaiter and hijacker.

Amusingly, I was baiting, baiting him to actually reply to the arguments since the attempts at avoidance by making personal attacks are just silly.
And finally, in this thread, suddenly I'm too ignorant to argue with and you don't have to address the substance of my post. It seems the recurring theme of these threads is that as soon as you start getting owned you claim that there is some flaw in the poster and thus don't have to address their arguments. It's remarkably consistent.

Or, hey, here's a thought. If my arguments are ignorant, how about you debunk them. I'll wait.

But accusing me isn't enough. It's the mods fault because I'm Max Barry.

Are you Max Barry or something that they let you get away with that kind of crap on such a regular basis?

You'll notice that the accusations weren't made here so it's clear that it's not an actually attempt to point out that I'm breaking site rules. It's just another baseless attack and, frankly, I'm not offended that he attacks me, but that every thread becomes about personal attacks because he uses them in thread after thread in an attempt to prevent meaningful debate.

None of these are particularly grievious alone, but at what point is enough enough? Is it coincidence that it's every thread PootWaddle is involved in? Shall I cite examples involving other posters? TCT, smunkee, Bottle, etc?
HotRodia
20-02-2007, 22:53
Already addressed in-thread here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12350684&postcount=218). I saw your response to it, and reviewed the links you posted as well as a number of other posts in that thread by yourself and PW.

After consideration, I don't see that PW's conduct is significantly different from yours in terms of making it personal, and your behavior is within the rules, albeit aggressive.

If your (or several poster's) interactions with a particular poster tend to devolve into nonsensical futility, then you should simply refrain from interacting with them.