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Dear Mods:

Is there any way you could keep your Modly eye on RuleCaucasia? This poster is developing a habit of bringing up religion in threads where it is not appropriate, in an attempt to flamebait or troll or whatever.

From my thread here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=511583

What happened to the good old days when tobacco was the major cash crop in the US? Since then, we have become addicted to harder and harder drugs and become less "addicted" to religion.



From the Cycling thread (completely off the mark, IMO) responding to an obvious joke from Farnhamia

*annointing the new convert with light sweet crude*

Bless you, child. Go and cycle no more.

In our increasingly complex world, our fundamental guiding principles (the precepts set forth in the Bible) are slowly being eroded. We are seemingly inexorably drifting away from religion as our dependence on technology increases, our faith is usurped by the computer or the car. No, we need to fight this destruction of our morality by this "brave new world." We need to fight against this culture of hedonism. We should regress to a level where we are willing to work for our rewards instead of having everything handed to us by technology. One way to do this is to abandon cars completely, as it would bring us closer to God. If you are not religious, I urge you not to bring God into the discussion, as you most likely speak out of ignorance.

I'm not sure if there are more, being as I don't have the time right now to do an extensive search, but I was hoping this type of thing could be stopped before it becomes a habit?

Thanks for any advice!

I was unaware that religion was a taboo subject in certain threads. However, I will gladly confine my discussions on religion to threads devoted to a like topic if I am so ordered. I did not mean to break any rules, and I am sorry if I did. However, the topics were open to any sort of discussion, and I simply interpreted them in a certain way. After all, how can you really discuss a topic stating that marijuana is the biggest cash crop in the US? In the bicycle thread, I was simply responding to a post saying that God wanted us to drive in automobiles, and I felt pressed to respond.

I was unaware that religion was a taboo subject in certain threads. However, I will gladly confine my discussions on religion to threads devoted to a like topic if I am so ordered. I did not mean to break any rules, and I am sorry if I did. However, the topics were open to any sort of discussion, and I simply interpreted them in a certain way. After all, how can you really discuss a topic stating that marijuana is the biggest cash crop in the US? In the bicycle thread, I was simply responding to a post saying that God wanted us to drive in automobiles, and I felt pressed to respond.

If you feel the need to respond to a larger issue brought up in a thread, just start a new thread to discuss it.

@Morganatron -- I'm already keeping a Modly eye on it.

If you feel the need to respond to a larger issue brought up in a thread, just start a new thread to discuss it.

@Morganatron -- I'm already keeping a Modly eye on it.

As they say in my profession: "Thank you for your attention to this matter."

If you feel the need to respond to a larger issue brought up in a thread, just start a new thread to discuss it.

Just a quick question. I only wanted to reply to a post made by Farmharia, who stated that God wanted us to drive automobiles. I said that God did not, in fact, want us to do any such thing, and that it would be better to ride bicycles. I didn't really want to have a long debate on it, but rather offer up a one-post opposing viewpoint. Should I have created a new topic just to post that one thing? I felt that it would be considered spam.

Just a quick question..
This kind of nickel-and-dime request for rulings on virtually every post is a classic sign of a troll. "Define for me, in fine-grain detail, exactly what I may or may not post in order to remain undeleted." No. Not going there.

Fact is, you hit our radar a lot. Some of the complaints are justified, some are not. Regardless, if you can't adjust your posting style to match the general content and style balance exhibited by the bulk of our membership, your presence here will continue to be abrasive, apparently for abrasiveness' sake. We won't tolerate that for long.

Learn to adapt and adjust to where you are. It's a sign of civilized behavior.

This kind of nickel-and-dime request for rulings on virtually every post is a classic sign of a troll. "Define for me, in fine-grain detail, exactly what I may or may not post in order to remain undeleted." No. Not going there.

I was asking as politely as I could because I felt that HotRodia was wrong to tell me to post my comment in a new thread. Fine. I'll be more to-the-point: was he wrong? I have seen threads taken very far afield from their original discussion point, yet they those who engage in such activities are seldom reprimanded; when I slightly deviated with my discourse on religion, I was given a warning. I seek a clarification of the rules, because this reeks suspiciously of bias to me. Is that better?

I was asking as politely as I could because I felt that HotRodia was wrong to tell me to post my comment in a new thread. Fine. I'll be more to-the-point: was he wrong? I have seen threads taken very far afield from their original discussion point, yet they those who engage in such activities are seldom reprimanded; when I slightly deviated with my discourse on religion, I was given a warning. I seek a clarification of the rules, because this reeks suspiciously of bias to me. Is that better?

I'll be happy to give you a clarification about rules and bias on this forum, and with regard to this case in particular. I also very much appreciate you bringing it up politely.

1. I really don't know (or care) what your overall politics are like, what your metaphysical beliefs are like, how well you debate, or whether you like American or European cars better. I just don't know or care. So me being biased against you is pretty well impossible at this point.

And even if I was, I'd take extra care to keep that bias out of any rulings against you, by consulting with other Moderators or by considering what I would do if someone of a different ideology/religion/philosophy had done an equivalent thing.

What I have noticed is a lot of complaints about you regarding your posts in General. So if there's any bias, it's probably coming from your fellow posters in General, not here in Moderation.

2. I didn't give you a warning. I gave you advice based on the rules. If I give you a warning, it'll be very obviously labeled Official Warning and possibly followed by a ban.

3. Rules Clarification: If you notice a lot of topic hijacking (see the One-Stop Rules Shop for definition) going unpunished, feel free to report it here in Moderation. If it's just topic drift (when a thread moves from one topic to discussing a closely-related issue) then that's fine.

You weren't warned. You were given advice about larger issues. If you're looking for bias, you're barking up the wrong tree on this one.

Your response to a random joke was in fact an entirely new topic, with the only apparently relevant part being the final line, where you asked the poster not to refer to God. It was in no way responsive to Farnhamia's post, which was at worst a joke using phrasing you don't care for.

It would appear from that sentence that you consider yourself the only one capable of speaking about God in anything other than ignorance. That's thread hijacking mixed with trolling in my book.

I'm backing Hotrodia fully on this one.

[Edit: When mods collide.]

I didn't really want to have a long debate on it, but rather offer up a one-post opposing viewpoint.

Sorry if my opinion is unwelcome in this thread, but I believe I have something to add.

What you just detailed appears trollish. You appear from nowhere and bring up an opposing viewpoint that is in itself entrenched in controversial [for these forums] material. You've posted quite a bit here.

You should, and perhaps DO, know by now that it's impossible to bring up some topics and not get a lengthy debate out of it.

Bringing up these types of highly objectionable subjects over and over in threads where they have absolutely no purpose makes it look as if you're simply trying to get a rise out of people.

What doesn't help your case is that you've been here long enough to KNOW that.

I'll be happy to give you a clarification about rules and bias on this forum, and with regard to this case in particular.

Thank you for taking the time to write a detailed response. I will do as you advised in the future.