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By Reich.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12058142&postcount=72

By Reich.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12058142&postcount=72
Thanks for being so quick in reporting this. Holy fuck.

Wow. He really took that out of context. I wasn't advocating spousal rape. I was merely saying that spousal rape shouldn't be considered rape, namely because I believe that once a couple gets married, they basically forfeit the right to say no.

Again, I am describing ideal circumstances. Ideally, that is what should legally be allowed. I am not advocating breaking the law.

I asked you a question regarding your opinion. You answered it. That's what happened, and that's what the mods will see when they look at the thread.

Wow. He really took that out of context.
He what? He linked to your post. The context is the thread in which you posted it.

He what? He linked to your post. The context is the thread in which you posted it.

Precisely. He asked a question. I gave an answer. He took my answer outside of the context of the greater thread. Read the thread, man.

Precisely. He asked a question. I gave an answer. He took my answer outside of the context of the greater thread. Read the thread, man.

The thread in which you continually argued that spousal rape should not be a crime? By all means.

The thread in which you continually argued that spousal rape should not be a crime? By all means.

Precisely. I am not advocating the commission of a crime. I am advocating the legalisation of what shouldn't be a crime. That isn't againt the rules. I am tempted to tell you to F**k off and give you the finger, but last time I did that, I got banned. :headbang:

Precisely. I am not advocating the commission of a crime. I am advocating the legalisation of what shouldn't be a crime. That isn't againt the rules. I am tempted to tell you to F**k off and give you the finger, but last time I did that, I got banned. :headbang:

However, right now, it IS a crime and you DID advocate that the man SHOULD commit it.

On that technicality alone, Reich, checkmate.

However, right now, it IS a crime and you DID advocate that the man SHOULD commit it.

On that technicality alone, Reich, checkmate.

:rolleyes: Whatever you say, Femisoviet.

:rolleyes: Whatever you say, Femisoviet.

I'm male. That, interestingly enough, does not preclude me from being against rape.

Precisely. He asked a question. I gave an answer. He took my answer outside of the context of the greater thread. Read the thread, man.
I am reading the thread and I sure as hell wish I had never laid eyes on it.

There is no "out of context" here. You advocated spousal beating and forced intercourse, which, if you like it or not, is in our society called spousal battery and rape. So deal with it.

Another post by TFHR, this time he's pretty explicit when he says it. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12058263&postcount=122)
(I'm pretty sure the advocating assault is banned no matter what, even if rape somehow isn't.)

Well, question. If someone advocates the legalisation of marijuana, is that a bannable offense? If not, then neither should this be.

I am not saying that every man reading my posts should go out and do it right now. I am not saying "GO AND FORCE YOUR WIVES INTO SUBMISSION! RAPE THEIR ASSES!"

No. I am not saying that. I am merely saying that society has done married men a great disfavor.

I just want to go on record here to say that, if he gets banned, I was the one that blew the whistle.

Well, question. If someone advocates the legalisation of marijuana, is that a bannable offense? If not, then neither should this be.

I am not saying that every man reading my posts should go out and do it right now. I am not saying "GO AND FORCE YOUR WIVES INTO SUBMISSION! RAPE THEIR ASSES!"

No. I am not saying that. I am merely saying that society has done married men a great disfavor.

You did not advocate the legislation of spousal rape (as if that weren't bad enough), you advocated the forcible intercourse, which is called rape. Deal. You lose.

Well, question. If someone advocates the legalisation of marijuana, is that a bannable offense? If not, then neither should this be.

I am not saying that every man reading my posts should go out and do it right now. I am not saying "GO AND FORCE YOUR WIVES INTO SUBMISSION! RAPE THEIR ASSES!"

No. I am not saying that. I am merely saying that society has done married men a great disfavor.

You don't seem to get the difference between rape and drugs:
Rape obviously and observably harms someone. So, anybody suggesting it should be legal in any form is banned.
Drugs only "harm" the person taking them at most, so suggesting that it should be legal is not banned.
Besides, pot is legal in some countries. Rape isn't.

Rape isn't.

Spousal "rape" wasn't always deemed possible. Your point is moot. Whatever the case, I suggest we both drop it, and let the Mods decide.

Well, question. If someone advocates the legalisation of marijuana, is that a bannable offense? If not, then neither should this be.

I am not saying that every man reading my posts should go out and do it right now. I am not saying "GO AND FORCE YOUR WIVES INTO SUBMISSION! RAPE THEIR ASSES!"

No. I am not saying that. I am merely saying that society has done married men a great disfavor.

You agreed with the statement "A man beating his wife into submission is acceptable"
So, you did say "GO AND FORCE YOUR ...", more or less.

You agreed with the statement "A man beating his wife into submission is acceptable"
So, you did say "GO AND FORCE YOUR ...", more or less.

You are taking my words out of context.

Spousal "rape" wasn't always deemed possible. Your point is moot. Whatever the case, I suggest we both drop it, and let the Mods decide.

Deal.
EDIT:Just dealing with that last post and then I'll leave:
It wasn't out of context, here's the context (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12058263&postcount=122).
The meaning is obviously retained.

Wow. He really took that out of context. I wasn't advocating spousal rape. I was merely saying that spousal rape shouldn't be considered rape, namely because I believe that once a couple gets married, they basically forfeit the right to say no.

Again, I am describing ideal circumstances. Ideally, that is what should legally be allowed. I am not advocating breaking the law.

Wow... Okay, so you <i>are</i> advocating spousal rape. You'd just like the name changed to something like "obligatory sex."

Wow. He really took that out of context. I wasn't advocating spousal rape. I was merely saying that spousal rape shouldn't be considered rape

Yeah, that's kind of like the pedophiles we had here who didn't advocate child rape, just that child rape shouldn't be considered rape.

Or kind of like someone arguing that it shouldn't be considered murder to kill certain kinds of people, because those people are actually subhumans.

I call that trolling and advocating criminal action, but let's see what the mods call it.

Wow... Okay, so you <i>are</i> advocating spousal rape. You'd just like the name changed to something like "obligatory sex."

Hey, a VtM player? :)

I like WoD myself, but mostly Mage (Son of Aether, usually).

Your all loving this a little bit too much

Heikoku you may want to look at this post --> http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12057865&postcount=7

I'm not saying your wrong, but there is no need for discussion here and definatly no need for your continued declarations about how you win and "checkmate" etc. This is the moderation forum just report the posts you find offensive and wait for the moderators to deal with it.

Heikoku you may want to look at this post --> http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12057865&postcount=7

I'm not saying your wrong, but there is no need for discussion here and definatly no need for your continued declarations about how you win and "checkmate" etc. This is the moderation forum just report the posts you find offensive and wait for the moderators to deal with it.

Meh. I guess I am somewhat of a gamer when it comes to arguments, but I don't think it's bannable. I hope. Not a mod though.

Very well. Reich came around and offered his apologies just about now. I accepted and hereby retract my complaint against him. Whether this has or not any influence on the mods' decisions, I wanted to make this known.

Enough. Everyone here remember to avoid getting into debates in the moderation forum about how player X is sooo gonna get it. The Fourth Holy Reich, find yourself a new nation, and troll less with this one. Thread locked. End of line.

The Fourth Holy Reich, find yourself a new nation.
On further review of post history by a panel of mods, the 'new nation' suggestion is withdrawn. The Fourth Holy Reich, find another place to troll. We don't want you back.