NationStates Jolt Archive

During the discussion about an UN resolution, my nation had a very long argument with another nation (see http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=503495 ). I consider that this exchange was totally roleplay. The line of my nation is to support poor countries, and my posting were aimed about that. The other nation did not agree. It generated a very roleplay and interesting discussion.

I consider that my posts were roleplay, and that the posts of the other nation were not always, espacially when he made a reference to "the real world" http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11849036#post11849036

At one point a moderator considered that we had not a discussion but a troll, and he banned me. I have not a problem about that: it was his point of view, and he is a moderator. I was only banned for 3 days, so I accept that.

I was just surprised that the other nation was not banned too.

But then I discovered that the other nation (Glorious Hack) was himself a moderator! was it him which banned me? can he always be a moderator after having beeing involved in a troll? and how can he be moderator after a so bad roleplay attitude (quoting the "real world")!

So I request that he lose his moderator status.

was it him which banned me?Nope.

Already addressed here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=504550) I believe. Pay special attention to post 7 by Fris. It would seem further clarification also happened in the thread in question.

Mods tend to have other mods handle a situation if they're involved historically from what I've seen. Besides, I can hardly imagine how you'd miss that someone you were interacting with wasn't a mod - given the rather visual tags under their nation names. You only 'discovered' this after you got slapped? Please.

[edit]In further reading, Dear God, but you made an ass of yourself in that thread. You're not off to a brilliant start here either. YOU were the troll, not Hack. He just got sucked into trying to debate you. You seem to be having as difficult a time with terminology and context in this regard as you did there. *shakes head in disbelief* Damn. Aaaaaand ... to bed.

In further reading, Dear God, but you made an ass of yourself in that thread. You're not off to a brilliant start here either. YOU were the troll, not Hack. He just got sucked into trying to debate you. You seem to be having as difficult a time with terminology and context in this regard as you did there. *shakes head in disbelief* Damn. Aaaaaand ... to bed.

All that I understand is that when you (a small group of nationstate moderators) do not like a discussion (you just write here that you do not like how I express the point of view of my nation in a roleplay context), you ban others... nice practice indeed....

you (a small group of nationstate moderators)Dread Lady Nathicana is not a Moderator (as mentioned in her signature). In the future, look under the nation's name. If it says "NationStates Moderator Team", "NationStates Forum Moderator", or "NationStates Game Moderator", they're a Moderator.

And, strangely enough, if it says "NationStates Administrator", they're an Admin.

YOU were the troll, not Hack. He just got sucked into trying to debate you.

Even if I would agree that it was a troll (for me it was a roleplay discussion in the context of a UN nationstate debate, do not forget khrutchov), do you really think that someone who can get suck into a troll can be a moderator?
no soundness in your reasonning: if it was a troll, Hack has no more reason to be a moderator; if it was not, you will have to change your mind and accept real roleplay in your forum, guys and girls...

First - learn to adequately express yourself, and get your facts straight if you expect to be taken seriously.

Second - take the new attempt at trolling elsewhere, it doesn't fly.

Third - in reading back through that was anything but 'real roleplaying'. Having been involved in such here for several years, dear newb, I think I might have some inkling as to the difference.

Fourth - you don't have to agree that you were trolling. It's obvious to everyone else.

Fifth - anyone can get sucked into responding to a troll - see the General forum for a wealth of examples. This in no way disqualifies Hack as a Moderator. If you weren't just pissed about not getting your way and on some self-righteous kick for whatever satisfaction you think you'll get out of this, you might see that. Then again, given your poor track record, that might be a bad bet on my part.

Thanks for playing, come back when you have something solid to argue with, have a nice day. ^_^

Dread Lady Nathicana is not a Moderator (as mentioned in her signature). In the future, look under the nation's name. If it says "NationStates Moderator Team", "NationStates Forum Moderator", or "NationStates Game Moderator", they're a Moderator.

And, strangely enough, if it says "NationStates Administrator", they're an Admin.

At least, it prooves my point about not knowing that you were an admin ;{)}

Honestly, I do not have anything against you. I thought we had our disucssion in a roleplay mode, and frankly, I now doubt that you were roleplay when I consider all that append after.

It's mainly because I was very surprised of my banishment that I reconsider my point of view. From y point of view, our discussion was fun, and inline with the role I assigned to my nation. Considering the issues that are submitted to nations, I think that nationstate is based on humor and overplaying, that's was I did: and I was bannished for that!

I only want to be sure that this funny game has not be taken in hostage by a few moderators (it appended in some games)...

Third - in reading back through that was anything but 'real roleplaying'. Having been involved in such here for several years, dear newb, I think I might have some inkling as to the difference.

what a point, so if I went there for a long tile, I would not be bannish, it explains why hack was not, and I was... very professionnal attitude.

For your first point, just know that english is not my first language (it's my third one, in fact), so sorry for not having the same vocabulary as you.

Then, just know that I'm involved in roleplay games for more than 20 years now, I worked in one of the two largest RP magazine in France during 3 years, where I live. I'm the author of a lot of scenario that have been sold, a lot of them being around "humorous games", like "in nomine satanis" (if you know somethink about RPG, you should have heard about it), I worked in teams which created a lot of other french-authored RPG too (like nephilim). I was the representative of the Palladium games in Europe during 5 years.

So sorry if you do not like my conception of roleplay, miss, but I won't change it because of your deep post.

May be you should create a nation and read the so-called "issues" which structure this game. Some are like:

"Smarker, but ee's gone blongie 'round the clonger! Trandy in the blang warked a newtie on the Cheebers, quaff me a duggle if it's brine. Sorky, hang our trandy high!" says Samuel Hendrikson, speaking for the demonstrators, in an apparently rousing response that draws a cascade of cheers. After a few uncomfortable minutes with a professional translator, you find the speaker said, "I respectfully disagree with the Minister. Multilingualism has brought stability to richly-cultured nations such as Brancaland; indeed, I challenge you to provide a single counterexample. I encourage this government to adopt a policy of multilingualism throughout Logical Wits!"

or like:

"You keep your damn hands off my organs!" says alarmed hospital patient Alexei Jones. "They are my organs, and I'll do with them what I like. The government has no right to my body."

so my posts were perfectly in line with the game.

I understand that for other games, my posts could be taken as a troll, but I'm convinced that it was totally roleplay in the context of nationstates.

*golf claps*

Pardon while I dismiss the over-lengthy appeal to authority there. I was suggesting I've got experience with THESE forums, which you obviously lack. As for rp time - baby, I've still got you beat, as if that matters. Point is, each forum game is unique, and you knowing how things work elsewhere counts for absolute dick here. You want to play here, learn how things are played, or continue to get mocked and laughed off.

Said time spent on these forums has been with a nation created for THIS game. Which in your smugness you seem to have again, missed. I'm quite familiar with the issues, and the statistics, and all the many calculators people use to figure their nation's base worth in any given category. I've seen trends come and go, as well as players - just like a lot of folks here on the forums, no big. The suggestion was that you should familiarize yourself with the game before assuming you know how it all works - as many of the rest of us have done. If you'd like to dismiss that experience out of hand, hey, who am I to stop you.

One thing to note - your attention to details sucks, quite frankly. You missed the tags and the fact that only mods/admins have forum avatars? You missed the fact that as I'm posting here I might just have a nation and be somewhat familiar with the game? Come on now - it doesn't take perfect English skills to grasp that. Read the stickies. Learn to pay attention. Read a bit in some of the other threads and get a feel for the FORUM part of the game before making assumptions because quite a few players take this seriously, silly issues in the base GAME part of NationStates aside.

You've already had it explained to you a number of times - your attempt at 'humor' was trolling. It wasn't funny. It wasn't entertaining. It was annoying. If you want to go for humor, there's other nations who have found ways of doing it and not getting themselves into trouble.

Besides - you don't have to change your 'style of rp' to suit my tastes. You do however need to attempt to abide by the rules, guidelines, and ettiquite of this game, as enforced by the Moderator team, and laid out fairly succinctly in multiple places all over these boards, as well as the FAQ in the NationStates game. If not, well, you get to deal with the consequences - just like all of us.

Imagine that. ;)

Learn how our game works and work with it, don't try to enforce your own rules that have nothing to do with ours.

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