NationStates Jolt Archive


DoS?

Jocabia
25-10-2006, 18:41
I don't usually go for this kind of guess work, but I think we can be relatively confident this is our DoS friend back again.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11855150&postcount=67
HotRodia
25-10-2006, 18:56
Good call. Thanks for the heads up.
Ice Hockey Players
25-10-2006, 20:27
Thanks for letting me have some fun with him first, though...makes me wonder why such a person continues to come back except to annoy the mods.
The Black Forrest
25-10-2006, 20:29
Is this why I saw a post simply disappear?

I was going to respond to something in the MJF/Rush thread and *POOF* it was gone when I refreshed.
The Black Forrest
25-10-2006, 20:56
Isn't this the guy?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11855630&postcount=121
Jocabia
25-10-2006, 20:58
And this guy -
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11855308&postcount=245

Seriously, does he think he impresses anyone simply because he can change to another computer?
Philosopy
25-10-2006, 20:58
Isn't this the guy?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11855630&postcount=121

Persistent little fella, you've got to give him that. :p

Is there any reason why he's able to keep creating these nations? I thought that you had Modly tools that blocked DoS people? (This is just curiousity, not a criticism)
The Nazz
25-10-2006, 21:00
Isn't this the guy?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11855630&postcount=121

Same one I did in the other thread.
Ice Hockey Players
25-10-2006, 21:03
Hopefully his parents will be home soon...trust me, if I could zap the jerk, I would. But yeah, he just...doesn't...go...away.

EDIT: Maybe he will go away...or maybe he will come back with another ridiculous username later
Frisbeeteria
25-10-2006, 21:30
I thought that you had Modly tools that blocked DoS people?
We have modly tools that block IP-banned people, but IP addresses are not the be-all and end-all of the internet. There are a variety of technical reasons why some players cannot be banned, thus the sobriquet "Delete-on-Sight". If they were bannable, we'd never see them; so it would be a rather silly name to use, eh what?
Jocabia
25-10-2006, 21:42
Was I actually right on Claptrap? I was much less sure on the second one than the first one I put up.
Philosopy
25-10-2006, 21:46
We have modly tools that block IP-banned people, but IP addresses are not the be-all and end-all of the internet. There are a variety of technical reasons why some players cannot be banned, thus the sobriquet "Delete-on-Sight". If they were bannable, we'd never see them; so it would be a rather silly name to use, eh what?

Well, I knew there would be a reason why it was called that, but I'm afraid my technical knowledge of networks and the internet is somewhat limited. I just turn it on and hope it works. :p
Ice Hockey Players
25-10-2006, 21:47
I think he's back as "Oneshotia"...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11855802&postcount=140

Clearly, Delete on Sight is an exercise in frustration, even if it's mildly amusing. Maybe we need Inflict with 10,000 Volts on Sight.
HotRodia
25-10-2006, 21:47
Was I actually right on Claptrap? I was much less sure on the second one than the first one I put up.

You were, and I actually got that account prior to you reporting it. He doesn't get far if I'm on the watch for him. The problem is that I'm not online 24/7 watching for him...
Ice Hockey Players
25-10-2006, 21:54
I hate to say it, since it's my thread and all, but it may be best for all our collective sanity if we locked the thread in question. I say that because the DoS idiot seems to put all his/her/its energy into that thread. I am assuming that the idiocy will not spread to other threads and infect those. If I am wrong, slap me with a rubber chicken. If I am right, it may be time to just end that thread.
Frisbeeteria
25-10-2006, 21:59
Other Steps Have Been Taken To Remove This Annoyance.


(in other words, I took a slightly more extreme approach, at least for the moment)
Jocabia
25-10-2006, 21:59
You were, and I actually got that account prior to you reporting it. He doesn't get far if I'm on the watch for him. The problem is that I'm not online 24/7 watching for him...

Odd that I knew it. Honestly, I just had a feeling. I don't know him very well. I would have felt pretty silly if I was wrong so I almost didn't mention it. My jedi powers must be strong today. Or... perhaps it was the names.
Philosopy
25-10-2006, 22:08
Other Steps Have Been Taken To Remove This Annoyance.


(in other words, I took a slightly more extreme approach, at least for the moment)

*Knock at the door*

http://mafia-game.com/image.jpg

"Good evening, Mr Iakeo."
The Former Smoking Man
25-10-2006, 22:41
http://www.cis.um.edu.mt/staff/cmeli/xfiles/cm1.jpg

*takes a drag*

The Mods are much too benevolent to do such a thing. Unless of course all those conspiracy theories about Mod oppression and bias are true.
Huntaer
25-10-2006, 23:41
Aren't there ways for people to hack into NS to get around the preperations mods take to get these guys off jolt? Maybe this guy's a hacker and has too much time on his hands...


The Mods are much too benevolent to do such a thing. Unless of course all those conspiracy theories about Mod oppression and bias are true.

Why do you think Fris is so quick to respond to any issue on General? ;)
Hydesland
25-10-2006, 23:45
Forgive my extreme noobishness, but what does DoS actually mean?
Scolopendra
25-10-2006, 23:47
Aren't there ways for people to hack into NS to get around the preperations mods take to get these guys off jolt? Maybe this guy's a hacker and has too much time on his hands...
http://shadowdane.shackspace.com/cats_files/server.jpg

I'm no expert, but of what I do know I'm pretty sure it generally doesn't work that way. This is more of a result of the fact that, all things considered, computing technology is geared towards greater freedom and privacy rather than Big Brother security than of some sort of 1337 h4><z0r hacking our Gibsons.

Oh, and Swordfish is a horrible movie. Do not base any sort of COMPSEC knowledge off of it.
Shazbotdom
25-10-2006, 23:54
http://shadowdane.shackspace.com/cats_files/server.jpg

I gotta save that pic
Huntaer
26-10-2006, 00:31
Forgive my extreme noobishness, but what does DoS actually mean?

I was confused as well, but due to this particular set of circumstances, I believe it stands for "Deleted on Sight."


http://shadowdane.shackspace.com/cats_files/server.jpg


I'm no expert, but of what I do know I'm pretty sure it generally doesn't work that way. This is more of a result of the fact that, all things considered, computing technology is geared towards greater freedom and privacy rather than Big Brother security than of some sort of 1337 h4><z0r hacking our Gibsons.

Oh, and Swordfish is a horrible movie. Do not base any sort of COMPSEC knowledge off of it.



I gotta show my dad that pic... And save it... And thanks for the answer which I seem to understand. Unless another mod has a better one...
Frisbeeteria
26-10-2006, 00:52
Aren't there ways for people to hack into NS? Maybe this guy's a hacker and has too much time on his hands...Since ...There are a variety of technical reasons why some players cannot be banned...... is it possible that, instead of doing some clever hacking ... perhaps these unblockable players might simply go out and ...

... make a new nation or ten?
Jocabia
26-10-2006, 01:19
Since ...... is it possible that, instead of doing some clever hacking ... perhaps these unblockable players might simply go out and ...

... make a new nation or ten?

I would assume that there are some computer sites that you wouldn't want to ban since they are public or associated to a school of some sort.
Huntaer
26-10-2006, 01:28
... is it possible that, instead of doing some clever hacking ... perhaps these unblockable players might simply go out and ...

... make a new nation or ten?

I sometimes miss the obvious. I just simply fail to see the logic, or use for that matter, in creating multiple nations to use NS/jolt if they constantly get baned and refuse to change their responses adequate to the rules in general (as in this case), or to change their RP style in II. I mean, it's just not logical.
Frisbeeteria
26-10-2006, 01:28
I would assume that there are some computer sites that you wouldn't want to ban since they are public or associated to a school of some sort.
I would assume that we've told you all we're going to tell you, and let it drop.



Hint, hint.

[abhored smilie here]
The Most Glorious Hack
26-10-2006, 01:30
I just simply fail to see the logic, or use for that matter, in creating multiple nations to use NS/jolt if they constantly get baned and refuse to change their responses adequate to the rules in general (as in this case), or to change their RP style in II. I mean, it's just not logical.As you walk this big, wide world, you'll learn that some people are jackasses.
Frisbeeteria
26-10-2006, 01:37
I sometimes miss the obvious. I mean, it's just not logical.
How would you react to someone who kept climbing over your fence to toss paintbombs on your house? Would you put up a taller fence? Place landmines in the yard (might be hard on the kids and the dog). Get a shotgun and wait on the back porch for the bastard?

I had my shotgun out today. He doesn't seem to care about the electric fence. He's not running on logic, sense, or anything other people would consider manners. He just wants to throw his idiocy bombs onto our site, and doesn't care whether he survives the experience.

Yeah, it's incredibly stupid. But oddly enough, that's why we have moderators.
Huntaer
26-10-2006, 01:53
How would you react to someone who kept climbing over your fence to toss paintbombs on your house? Would you put up a taller fence? Place landmines in the yard (might be hard on the kids and the dog). Get a shotgun and wait on the back porch for the bastard?

I had my shotgun out today. He doesn't seem to care about the electric fence. He's not running on logic, sense, or anything other people would consider manners. He just wants to throw his idiocy bombs onto our site, and doesn't care whether he survives the experience.

Yeah, it's incredibly stupid. But oddly enough, that's why we have moderators.

Interesting analogy. And I'm glad to have you guys here, even if we(the non-mod guys) end up slightly annoying you guys (including myself). I'd have gone insane if we didn't have mods. I sometimes wonder how you guys cope with these things.
The Nazz
26-10-2006, 05:13
Interesting analogy. And I'm glad to have you guys here, even if we(the non-mod guys) end up slightly annoying you guys (including myself). I'd have gone insane if we didn't have mods. I sometimes wonder how you guys cope with these things.
It's all the hookers they can afford with the great gobs of cash they make from this gig.
JuNii
26-10-2006, 17:42
As you walk this big, wide world, you'll learn that some people are jackasses.either walk the world, or work tech support. ;)

It would be interesting and helpful to get a list of DoS nations and their puppets that they used, granted some are not as helpful as this Iakeo person but it can help the rest of us spotting these DoS nations. ;)
Frisbeeteria
26-10-2006, 17:59
It would be interesting and helpful to get a list of DoS nations and their puppets
No, it wouldn't. I fail to see how publicizing players who have behaved so badly as to warrant permanent removal from this site is something that people want to pursue.

Furthermore, we've got tools that let us track most of them. Only the fact that our automated systems were also taken down by the failure of the Getting Help system allowed this player to hang around as long as he did. Incidently, those tools are now working, and we're killing his new puppets before he can make his presence known here at all.

If you continue with your morbid fascination with rulebreakers, you can find an unofficial list in NSwiki's Hall of Ex-Nations (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Hall_of_Ex-Nations). That is as good as you're going to get.

Can we drop this now?
Jocabia
26-10-2006, 18:10
I may not get an answer to this question either, but... Let's say I was informed that I was unwelcome on this site and told in no uncertain terms that I was no longer welcome on this private site. Is there a potential for legal repurcussions for, say, choosing to create multiple nations and harrassing the mods?
Ice Hockey Players
26-10-2006, 19:02
I may not get an answer to this question either, but... Let's say I was informed that I was unwelcome on this site and told in no uncertain terms that I was no longer welcome on this private site. Is there a potential for legal repurcussions for, say, choosing to create multiple nations and harrassing the mods?

Perhaps, but it might be hard to prove. It may be more productive to contact the person's ISP.
JuNii
26-10-2006, 21:37
Can we drop this now?
Consider it Dropped. :)
The Most Glorious Hack
27-10-2006, 06:30
Is there a potential for legal repurcussions for, say, choosing to create multiple nations and harrassing the mods?Are there legal repurcussions for driving 1 mph over the speed limit?
Jocabia
27-10-2006, 06:43
Are there legal repurcussions for driving 1 mph over the speed limit?

Well put.
Pledgeria
27-10-2006, 07:05
I didn't want to make a different thread for the same topic, but I don't know if this guy is a DoS:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11862982&postcount=81
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11863001&postcount=84

Two posts and s/he's already distinguished him-/herself.
Philosopy
27-10-2006, 10:24
I didn't want to make a different thread for the same topic, but I don't know if this guy is a DoS:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11862982&postcount=81
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11862994&postcount=83

Two posts and s/he's already distinguished him-/herself.

That's one post, and one by you.
Pledgeria
27-10-2006, 10:38
That's one post, and one by you.

Dang it. Okay, thanks. I'll fix it on the edit.
Frisbeeteria
27-10-2006, 13:03
I didn't want to make a different thread for the same topic, but I don't know if this guy is a DoS:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11862982&postcount=81
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11863001&postcount=84

Two posts and s/he's already distinguished him-/herself.

Delusions of humor != DoS. Looks like a garden-variety troll to me, and not a very good one.