NationStates Jolt Archive


Enough Ad-Hominems?

Ny Nordland
21-10-2006, 12:50
These are all from 1 thread, except 1 or 2 posts. As pointed out by other posters, all or almost all of Greater Trostia's posts in this thread have been ad-hominems. Some of them are flames as well, I guess, like this one.

Now didn't you make a decision several weeks and/or months ago to ignore me and what I had to say? You know, to preserve the delicate network of delusions which is all that kept your precarious mental health from plunging into the abyss of despair and humiliation. ;)



Oh! So you're against genocide! Not because it's immoral, but because it's never been done right! There are still those pesky Jews around!

...yep. 2+2 indeed.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11837878&postcount=309

Some others may be flames as well, I'm not sure, as they contain lots of f******* or scumbag etc, but they are definately ad hominems...here:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11836126&postcount=301
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11835961&postcount=297
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11835636&postcount=80
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11832159&postcount=246
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11831920&postcount=237
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11831904&postcount=7
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11830616&postcount=206
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11830592&postcount=202
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11830540&postcount=191
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11830497&postcount=184
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11826418&postcount=98
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11826841&postcount=131
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11826459&postcount=109


This is what GT does in my other threads, fill it with his personal attacks. Is this allowed?
[NS]St Jello Biafra
21-10-2006, 14:04
I think this admission here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11836126&postcount=301) is what gives it away:
As for debating the content of the article, others can play that game if they want, I don't feel like it.
Refusal to debate the content. I'd say spam at the very least.
Philosopy
21-10-2006, 14:09
St Jello Biafra;11839288']

I think this admission here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.ph...&postcount=301) is what gives it away:

Refusal to debate the content. I'd say spam at the very least.



That link doesn't work...

Are you the same person as Jello Biafra? :confused:

Incidently, this link is relevant as well: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11837970&postcount=2 (A thread about trolls, and who is one/was one)
Ny Nordland
21-10-2006, 15:22
That link doesn't work...

Are you the same person as Jello Biafra? :confused:

Incidently, this link is relevant as well: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11837970&postcount=2 (A thread about trolls, and who is one/was one)

Here's the link:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11836126&postcount=301
[NS]St Jello Biafra
21-10-2006, 16:14
That link doesn't work...

Are you the same person as Jello Biafra? :confused:

Incidently, this link is relevant as well: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11837970&postcount=2 (A thread about trolls, and who is one/was one)
Thanks, link fixed.

And no, Jello Biafra and I are in no way related except for our apparent shared love of the Dead Kennedys.
Jocabia
21-10-2006, 16:26
Ad hominems aren't against the rules as far as I know. However ....

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11826121&postcount=14
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11826143&postcount=20
You're not from here so you're point has no bearing. Ad hominem.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11826248&postcount=39
"Amazing. I'm answering to a irrelevant Brazillian."

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11826322&postcount=64
"Of course given your incapacity at discussion,"

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11830486&postcount=181
If one is familiar with NN's regular accusation that GT is black the point of this post is pretty obvious.

This doesn't excuse any flaming, but having NN complain about ad hominems is just too much. He actually spends several pages at the beginning of the thread trying to prove GT is black. I find it interesting that he requires people to ignore the same things in his posts that reports to mods in the posts of his opponents. What's it called when you bait people with posts like "yo bro, wassup" and "you're an irrelevant Brazillian" and then ask the mods to take action when they reply in kind?
Heikoku
21-10-2006, 16:28
Hey, mods, while you're at it, examine this. I was merciful enough not to go to moderation with this, but if he's gonna use mods as a weapon, I decided not to be so nice anymore.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11826248&postcount=39

THINK before you ACT, Ny Nordland. You're less than a poster-boy for the "white superiority" ideas you so much adore.
Frisbeeteria
21-10-2006, 16:50
We're done with this argument. Have been for weeks.
You've been indirectly insulting the intellects of other folks, Ny Nordland. Stop whining when other folks do it to you, and stop spamming Moderation with your inane and insubstantial allegations of rule-breaking on the part of your debating opponents.
If you don't like the way people respond to your inflammatory posts, stop coming around here. This is your final warning on this, Ny Nordland. You've been warned and banned often enough. Next one of these will result in your deletion.

Greater Trostia, a similar warning applies to you. You've lost nations over your interactions with this player. We're tired of both of you and your pointless bickering. Ignore or walk away. We're done being tolerant.
Greater Trostia
21-10-2006, 18:59
Greater Trostia, a similar warning applies to you. You've lost nations over your interactions with this player. We're tired of both of you and your pointless bickering. Ignore or walk away. We're done being tolerant.

So noted - though I would like to point out I've never had a nation deleted for anything other than inactivity.
Ny Nordland
21-10-2006, 21:14
We're done with this argument. Have been for weeks.

If you don't like the way people respond to your inflammatory posts, stop coming around here. This is your final warning on this, Ny Nordland. You've been warned and banned often enough. Next one of these will result in your deletion.

Greater Trostia, a similar warning applies to you. You've lost nations over your interactions with this player. We're tired of both of you and your pointless bickering. Ignore or walk away. We're done being tolerant.

And I'm tired of your empty threats. Whose intellect have I insulted in this thread? And I do hope that you do not lock this thread after giving an insufficient answer.
Ny Nordland
21-10-2006, 21:25
Hey, mods, while you're at it, examine this. I was merciful enough not to go to moderation with this, but if he's gonna use mods as a weapon, I decided not to be so nice anymore.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11826248&postcount=39

THINK before you ACT, Ny Nordland. You're less than a poster-boy for the "white superiority" ideas you so much adore.



http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11830640&postcount=209
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11826457&postcount=108
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11826419&postcount=99
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11826375&postcount=82
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11826362&postcount=76
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11826128&postcount=16

Heikoku's flames from other threads:

"Means is worse than a genocidal chimp"
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11825520&postcount=120

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11820049&postcount=113
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11820031&postcount=110
Ny Nordland
21-10-2006, 21:32
Ad hominems aren't against the rules as far as I know. However ....

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11826121&postcount=14
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11826143&postcount=20
You're not from here so you're point has no bearing. Ad hominem.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11826248&postcount=39
"Amazing. I'm answering to a irrelevant Brazillian."

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11826322&postcount=64
"Of course given your incapacity at discussion,"

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11830486&postcount=181
If one is familiar with NN's regular accusation that GT is black the point of this post is pretty obvious.

This doesn't excuse any flaming, but having NN complain about ad hominems is just too much. He actually spends several pages at the beginning of the thread trying to prove GT is black. I find it interesting that he requires people to ignore the same things in his posts that reports to mods in the posts of his opponents. What's it called when you bait people with posts like "yo bro, wassup" and "you're an irrelevant Brazillian" and then ask the mods to take action when they reply in kind?


Of course Heikoku is irrelevant to me, given our history. I guess that's not a personal attack more than ignoring someone. I'll answer the rest if any of the mods think they are inflammatory in any way.
HotRodia
21-10-2006, 21:50
And I'm tired of your empty threats. Whose intellect have I insulted in this thread?

Way to drop a red herring by taking one part of a quote out of context. Might want to read the bit about spamming Moderation, instead.

And I do hope that you do not lock this thread after giving an insufficient answer.

Wording your post to draw exactly that perfectly appropriate reaction, and then expressing hope that it won't happen. Classic.