NationStates Jolt Archive


Okay, I WILL question this...

Heikoku
16-10-2006, 03:48
I was comparatively very mild, and I've seen people get away unbanned for (much) bigger things than what I did in that thread and got banned for five days for. The fight was between two other people. It's not my fault they were at each other's necks like a chipmunk on Red Bull...
The Most Glorious Hack
16-10-2006, 04:21
Since you've given no context, I will attempt to read your mind. The answer you seek is...

"Potato"
Heikoku
16-10-2006, 04:30
Since you've given no context, I will attempt to read your mind. The answer you seek is...

"Potato"

Five days ago, two or three guys turned a thread by DK into a "he made this thread with a muslim bashing intent/no he didn't" argument that turned into a flame war. I posted FOUR messages in there, all of them much milder than the fight. Yet, just like the other guys, I was banned for five days. Guilt by association. Also, I sent to the mods my complaints via the normal means and got no response.
Shazbotdom
16-10-2006, 04:40
Getting Help Page isn't working. So if you tried there then they wouldn't have gotten it.
Heikoku
16-10-2006, 04:58
Getting Help Page isn't working. So if you tried there then they wouldn't have gotten it.

Great. Well, I'm registering my complaint now, regardless of it doing any good. -_-
Shazbotdom
16-10-2006, 05:03
Great. Well, I'm registering my complaint now, regardless of it doing any good. -_-

Giving the URL to the thread in question also might help the Mods do their job.
Heikoku
16-10-2006, 05:16
Giving the URL to the thread in question also might help the Mods do their job.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=502340

Oh lookie. Junii offered peace. Right after I got banned along with those that were actually fighting him.

Why, thanks, Junii, I'll accept peace. Much like Guatemala accepts peace with Israel, which is at war with the rest of the Middle-east, simply because Guatemala couldn't care less about Israel OR the Middle-east and was ALWAYS at peace with them. -_-
Not bad
16-10-2006, 05:24
Since you've given no context, I will attempt to read your mind. The answer you seek is...

"Potato"

Sorry the corrrect answer is "Guatemala" but thank you for playing.:p
Heikoku
16-10-2006, 05:29
Sorry the corrrect answer is "Guatemala" but thank you for playing.:p

You got my point. -_-
JuNii
16-10-2006, 08:06
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=502340

Oh lookie. Junii offered peace. Right after I got banned along with those that were actually fighting him.

Why, thanks, Junii, I'll accept peace. Much like Guatemala accepts peace with Israel, which is at war with the rest of the Middle-east, simply because Guatemala couldn't care less about Israel OR the Middle-east and was ALWAYS at peace with them. -_-
the bans were handed out while I wasn't on the Forums. I cannot be held responsible for that. while I do not know the exact circumstances, I suspect, it might be when this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=502644) was started. however, the only one who can confirm that would be the mod who handed out the bans.
I am sorry you got banned for that thread. :(
Heikoku
16-10-2006, 08:21
the bans were handed out while I wasn't on the Forums. I cannot be held responsible for that. while I do not know the exact circumstances, I suspect, it might be when this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=502644) was started. however, the only one who can confirm that would be the mod who handed out the bans.
I am sorry you got banned for that thread. :(

Oh, Junii, don't worry, not blaming you here, just expressing annoyance at having been banned. I know you're not to blame here, but you do know that I had sent only 4 messages and that they were pretty calm in comparison, right? *Sends a Guatemalan hat and some tequila to Junii*

(BTW, Brazilian here, before anyone asks)
JuNii
16-10-2006, 08:28
Oh, Junii, don't worry, not blaming you here, just expressing annoyance at having been banned. I know you're not to blame here, but you do know that I had sent only 4 messages and that they were pretty calm in comparison, right? *Sends a Guatemalan hat and some tequila to Junii*

(BTW, Brazilian here, before anyone asks)

no I didn't know you were Brazillian. *sends an Aloha shirt and Kona Coffee* :)

I really didn't know people got banned in that thread. I still tender my apologies to you and them.
Heikoku
16-10-2006, 08:32
no I didn't know you were Brazillian. *sends an Aloha shirt and Kona Coffee* :)

I really didn't know people got banned in that thread. I still tender my apologies to you and them.

Again, not really blaming you - I still disagree with you regarding DK, but I do think I was more polite than what's-his-name and the-other-guy. -_-

I'm expressing my annoyance at what's-his-name and at having been banned unfairly.
The Most Glorious Hack
16-10-2006, 09:36
Hey... remember that time you continued a General Forum argument in Moderation? Boy, wasn't that awesome?

Anyway, you continued to attack the poster rather than the argument after it Kat said that wasn't acceptable. "But teacher, he took three!" isn't an acceptable defence.

Learning (http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html) is (http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-spite.html) fun! (http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/poisoning-the-well.html)
BackwoodsSquatches
16-10-2006, 10:19
As it seems Im either "whatshisname" or "the other guy", I was a little confused myself, so I sent Katganistan a tg, asking him to explain.
I thought a five day ban was a little excessive as well, and wanted to know why an entirely different poster was only banned for a day, for a similar offense on another thread.

He says it was becuase I have a history of "flaming and trolling" with my previous nation.

My previous nation was deleted about three years ago.

I think NS General has been around for four?

At any rate, if nothing else, Kat was helpful, and for that, Im appreciative.

I still think the reasons for that threads creation was racist negativity.
I still think the entire point had everything to do with the subjects religion.
I still think the warning Kat gave seemed to be directed at one person, and not everyone in general.

That being said, this is far from the worst thing thats happened to me, and Im quite sure I'll get over it.
I dont see a reason to raise a stink.
BackwoodsSquatches
16-10-2006, 10:24
no I didn't know you were Brazillian. *sends an Aloha shirt and Kona Coffee* :)

I really didn't know people got banned in that thread. I still tender my apologies to you and them.

I got banned for returning a response to you, specifically.

We were both arguing about the same thing.

I got banned, you didnt.

Why?

Were we not both discussing something other than the specific topic of that thread, that being the muslim taxi driver, and not DK's racist attitudes?

So technically we were both doing the same thing.
But since you were defending him, and I was not, I got banned.

*shrug*
The Most Glorious Hack
16-10-2006, 10:32
So technically we were both doing the same thing.
But since you were defending him, and I was not, I got banned.Except for the minor difference of you attacking the poster and JuNii not.
BackwoodsSquatches
16-10-2006, 10:38
Except for the minor difference of you attacking the poster and JuNii not.

Do you mean accusing him of being a bigot?

The guy who mentioned he'd like to "kill every muslim alive?" or something to that effect?

Becuase thats really stating a fact, not an attack.

*shrug*
The Most Glorious Hack
16-10-2006, 12:24
Irrelevent. That thread did not exist to discuss DK's post history. It existed to discuss the linked article.

Read the links. Learn.