NationStates Jolt Archive


genocide advocating, again

Greater Trostia
02-10-2006, 06:59
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11757994&postcount=142

"Kill them all. All those raghead bastards."
A_B
02-10-2006, 07:11
If he's just talking about terrorists and not arab people in general I wouldn't call it genocide.
Shazbotdom
02-10-2006, 07:13
I think with how it is taken in context that it is directed only towards terrorists.

Although if someone of Arab decent reads that, no one would know what they would take it as.
Neocon pride
02-10-2006, 07:14
I was just talking about terrorists, and i even clarified for ya buddy :)
Greater Trostia
02-10-2006, 07:18
I was just talking about terrorists, and i even clarified for ya buddy :)

"Raghead" doesn't really mean "terrorist." Editing your post doesn't change what you said, nor obviously what you meant.

It's sort of like me saying, "Kill all those ****** bastards," and then editing it later to mean, "Oh, I just meant black gang members. Yeah. See, I'm not advocating murder or genocide! :) :) :)"
Zilam
02-10-2006, 07:33
"Raghead" doesn't really mean "terrorist." Editing your post doesn't change what you said, nor obviously what you meant.

It's sort of like me saying, "Kill all those ****** bastards," and then editing it later to mean, "Oh, I just meant black gang members. Yeah. See, I'm not advocating murder or genocide! :) :) :)"

Well then again not all arabs nor muslims where "rags" on their heads, no?
So its not like he/she was advocating the destruction of the whole race/religion/people
Greater Trostia
02-10-2006, 07:42
Well then again not all arabs nor muslims where "rags" on their heads, no?
So its not like he/she was advocating the destruction of the whole race/religion/people

No. The term "raghead" is used in such contexts to apply to all Muslims and/or all non-Judaic Semites in the Middle East. This is well known. It's an ethnic slur, not a specific reference to someone with a specific fashion style.
Zilam
02-10-2006, 07:45
No. The term "raghead" is used in such contexts to apply to all Muslims and/or all non-Judaic Semites in the Middle East. This is well known. It's an ethnic slur, not a specific reference to someone with a specific fashion style.

Well, how exactly do you know what the said character meant? Can you read minds? :p
Kyouran
02-10-2006, 07:46
No killing all the terrorists would not be genocide. However, calling them "raghead bastards" is only showing your hate towards them in an insulting manner that will not only fan the flames, but anger the other muslims who wear "rags" on their heads. While we can do nothing to convince extremists that want only to kill all non-believers, it is not prudent to cause hostility towards others who have done no wrong, merely because they share the same ethnicity or religeon as those who have.
Wanamingo Junior
02-10-2006, 07:48
It's sort of like me saying, "Kill all those ****** bastards," and then editing it later to mean, "Oh, I just meant black gang members. Yeah. See, I'm not advocating murder or genocide! :) :) :)"

If he wasn't actually advocating genocide of innocents, then yeah, it's exactly like that. He just made a poor choice of words, is all.

Now, if it's like you say, then you're right. But you have no proof, and it's a retarded thing to argue about something like that over the internet.
Greater Trostia
02-10-2006, 08:00
Well, how exactly do you know what the said character meant? Can you read minds? :p

I think the intent was pretty clear. Mods get to decide on this, not me. If they choose to see it as an innocent remark by an admitted troll, fine, no skin off my back.
Laerod
02-10-2006, 12:10
Well, how exactly do you know what the said character meant? Can you read minds? :p"Meant" to my knowledge isn't necessarily as relevant as "said".
Fallenova
02-10-2006, 12:30
Well we may all have different interpretations. What was said may not have been meant, just as what we meant may not have been properly said.
Katganistan
02-10-2006, 13:58
Raghead bastards is as inappropriate as ****** bastard, spic bastard, hooknosed bastard, etc.

In other words: don't use ethnic slurs.