NationStates Jolt Archive


Threatening.

Heikoku
30-09-2006, 21:11
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11751723&postcount=357
Dread Lady Nathicana
30-09-2006, 21:26
Now that is downright treason. Freedom of speech does not cover attempting to overthrow the government. Uncle Sam should give you a visit, in this case. I am contemplating calling the authorities.

Yes, because that is SUCH a detailed plan in your linked post there to overthrow the government, and is a serious enough 'threat' for them to leap into action over. Nevermind the fact our nation was sort of founded on rebellion and overthrowing the powers that existed at the time ... in case you'd forgotten.

Get a grip. Seriously.

And Dobbs - something tells me your response here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11751762&postcount=375) is what's going to get you into trouble, not that original statement. There's something to be said for folks who know when to quit when they're ahead.
Utracia
30-09-2006, 21:45
If anything there is a possible trolling charge. I don't believe it has quite gone that far though. Just spirited debate. :)
Philosopy
30-09-2006, 22:54
If anything there is a possible trolling charge. I don't believe it has quite gone that far though. Just spirited debate. :)
This one is definately a troll. He's also managed to start up yet another paedophile argument in his defence of some Republican Senator.

This thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=501484

From post 10 onwards. I'm afraid I can't be more specific, and I'm sorry to give you so much to read, but pretty much every post is baiting, flaming, trolling and/or spamming.
Utracia
30-09-2006, 23:32
This one is definately a troll. He's also managed to start up yet another paedophile argument in his defence of some Republican Senator.

This thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=501484

From post 10 onwards. I'm afraid I can't be more specific, and I'm sorry to give you so much to read, but pretty much every post is baiting, flaming, trolling and/or spamming.

Yes, I have conversed with him there and since the mods have specified an end to pedo threads it is a violation.

I hesitate on the troll verdict really because he makes debates spark with his political ideas. If he gets slapped down then the forum would just get a bit more boring for me. Besides, calling liberals nasty names is not exactly rare. Nor is having rather fascist ideas.
Heikoku
30-09-2006, 23:33
This one is definately a troll. He's also managed to start up yet another paedophile argument in his defence of some Republican Senator.

This thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=501484

From post 10 onwards. I'm afraid I can't be more specific, and I'm sorry to give you so much to read, but pretty much every post is baiting, flaming, trolling and/or spamming.

I wish I could tell you how much that surprises me, but it doesn't.
Heikoku
30-09-2006, 23:37
Yes, I have conversed with him there and since the mods have specified an end to pedo threads it is a violation.

I hesitate on the troll verdict really because he makes debates spark with his political ideas. If he gets slapped down then the forum would just get a bit more boring for me. Besides, calling liberals nasty names is not exactly rare. Nor is having rather fascist ideas.

Regardless, the pedo thread DOES put him in violation of the rules.
Okielahoma
01-10-2006, 00:18
Wheres Frisbeteeria?
Upper Botswavia
01-10-2006, 00:41
Wheres Frisbeteeria?

Hopefully off enjoying a lovely fall day/evening somewhere in the real world. Fris does not LIVE here, you know... just a volunteer.
Scolopendra
01-10-2006, 03:27
That's not treason. It may be sedition, but looking at the United States Code Title 18 Chapter 115 Section 2384 (http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00002384----000-.html):

§ 2384. Seditious conspiracy

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

Nope, not sedition. It's not directed to the Armed Forces with the intent to coerce or reduce morale, so § 2387. "Activities affecting armed forces generally" doesn't apply. This is nothing and isn't illegal.

He is, however, in violation concerning pedophilia threads. *sigh* Rolled-up newspaper is go.
Upper Botswavia
01-10-2006, 04:56
*hanging head*

Sorry for continuing to post in the Foley thread after it became an obvious pedophilia fest. I got caught up in discussing the legal issues, and, on re-reading it, realize I should have just said "no more troll food" after the first few attempts to explain the law rationally to Means.

Sorry.
:(
Scolopendra
01-10-2006, 05:01
You are forgiven, my child. Now go forth and keep the supremacy of Air Power in your heart.

~Reverend Scolo of the Church of Airpower
Upper Botswavia
01-10-2006, 05:04
You are forgiven, my child. Now go forth and keep the supremacy of Air Power in your heart.

~Reverend Scolo of the Church of Airpower


Thanks Father S.






Although I bet I am older than you are. :)
Ny Nordland
03-10-2006, 20:00
The thread in question is now locked but I see that the mods didnt do anything about Heikoku. I looked from page 22 to page 36 in only this thread and these are Heikoku's flames:

He makes a good job of summarizing them here:


I never called you arrogant. I called you genocidal, a moron, megalomaniac, stupid, ignorant, murderer, uncoherent...

But I never called you arrogant.

And considering you so far failed to reply to any FACTS I pointed out, it's not hard to see who is "actually putting a modicum of thought and logic into his/her arguments" here.

Further, don't flatter yourself. Beating you in an argument does not inflate my ego any more than beating the mentally retarded in a game of chess would.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11751626&postcount=324

Simply, a disgusting comment:

Hey, it's okay! When his mother is raped, he'll be happy, for the "strong" comanded the "weak" as well, no? I mean, he'll also think his mother should be glad for giving in to someone stronger...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11752098&postcount=422

More:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11751640&postcount=327
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11751678&postcount=339
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11751695&postcount=344
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11752065&postcount=416
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11752985&postcount=472
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11753002&postcount=475
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11753170&postcount=493
HotRodia
03-10-2006, 20:28
Addressed.
Heikoku
03-10-2006, 20:54
Snip.

Very funny that YOU take upon yourself the task of policing the forum, given your personal history.

Not at all surprising that you take upon yourself the task of defending a guy that said Hitler had pretty good ideas, given your personal opinions.
Ny Nordland
03-10-2006, 20:59
Addressed.

What did you do? I thought they were ban worthy?
Heikoku
03-10-2006, 20:59
What did you do? I thought they were ban worthy?

Oh, so THAT was what you were aiming for, as opposed to either banning me AND Means or (as he did) warn us both, in order to serve justice. It was not about justice, it was about getting me banned.

*Faints from total lack of surprise*
HotRodia
03-10-2006, 21:10
That's really, really enough.

As Heikoku apparently noticed, I added him to the unofficial warning in the last post.

Ny Nordland, your opinion on what's ban-worthy is obviously not particularly reliable, given your own history of being banned. I suggest you look to your own behavior first, and that of others a distant second.