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In the General thread about Jehovah's Witnesses, a user by the name of Gogotha made a few across-the-board attacks at other Generalites, once accusing us of being "illiterate" and having "come from broken homes." If that's not against the rules, it's certainly in poor taste. Basically, this is a request for clarification of if this is an actual rules violation.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11680046&postcount=81

That's the link.

Sounds like he's calling the people who are bashing JW's at the door, and upholding the JWs' commitment to their God to me.

I don't think that it breaks any rules. To quote the OSRS:
Flame: Expressing anger at someone in uncouth ways with OOC (out-of-character) comments (i.e. swearing, being obnoxious, threatening etc)...You do not need to curse to be a flamer. Erudite slams while maintaining a veneer of politeness can also be considered flaming.
This does express anger, but there is no swearing or threatening, and it would be a stretch to describe it as obnoxious. It's not exactly friendly; but to say it is 'extremely unpleasant' is a little too far. I would say this was poorly worded, caused by a perceived provocation.

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Sounds like he's calling the people who are bashing JW's at the door, and upholding the JWs' commitment to their God to me.

It's one thing to play the other side. It's anothe thing to make personal attacks at people for their opinons and accusing them of being from broken homes. Even if it's not against the rules, it's way out of line.

I don't think that it breaks any rules. To quote the OSRS:

This does express anger, but there is no swearing or threatening, and it would be a stretch to describe it as obnoxious. It's not exactly friendly; but to say it is 'extremely unpleasant' is a little too far. I would say this was poorly worded, caused by a perceived provocation.

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There are other rules, not just the one about flaming. And it looks like trolling to me, because he's addressing a large number of the people in the thread collectively and making statements about them that are likely to bring very bad responses.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11680822&postcount=127

Posted.

Thanks for taking a look at that. Now back to our regularly scheduled forum stuff.

And it looks like trolling to me, because he's addressing a large number of the people in the thread collectively and making statements about them that are likely to bring very bad responses.
Well, I'll respectfully disagree with you on that one, but it's a bit of a moot point now anyway as you only gave a slap on the wrist.

I will put this here as I already posted it in the thread itself not knowing there was a moderation section.

Mr Forum Moderator. How is my response to this 10 page list of malicious, intentionally insulting responses, (including the original post), more trolling than the rest of them. If I am to be chastised for my attempt to bring reason to this farce of a religious discussion than I demand that the entire thread be closed. I am not interested in angry responses. If my post (to which I will add I have not even seen a single angry response, and in fact more than one reply in agreement) is poor form, than I say to you that the entire thread is poor form. Good day. - G.

In future I will be more careful with the wording of my posts so that they will not be misconstrued by 'sensitive' readers like the reader who brought my post to your attention.

I will put this here as I already posted it in the thread itself not knowing there was a moderation section.

Mr Forum Moderator. How is my response to this 10 page list of malicious, intentionally insulting responses, (including the original post), more trolling than the rest of them. If I am to be chastised for my attempt to bring reason to this farce of a religious discussion than I demand that the entire thread be closed. I am not interested in angry responses. If my post (to which I will add I have not even seen a single angry response, and in fact more than one reply in agreement) is poor form, than I say to you that the entire thread is poor form. Good day. - G.

In future I will be more careful with the wording of my posts so that they will not be misconstrued by 'sensitive' readers like the reader who brought my post to your attention.
you directed your insults at specific members of the NS community. Whether it was intentional or not, those attacks are seen as trolling because usually, when you (general "you", not specific to just you personally) call someone an "asshole", they will respond a bit harshly. Just because there were no responses to you does not change that. Many people just don't "feed trolls".

Bringing "reason" is not calling people assholes, telling them they are from broken homes, and that they are illiterate. In fact, that is the exact antithesis.

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I will put this here as I already posted it in the thread itself not knowing there was a moderation section.

Mr Forum Moderator. How is my response to this 10 page list of malicious, intentionally insulting responses, (including the original post), more trolling than the rest of them. If I am to be chastised for my attempt to bring reason to this farce of a religious discussion than I demand that the entire thread be closed. I am not interested in angry responses. If my post (to which I will add I have not even seen a single angry response, and in fact more than one reply in agreement) is poor form, than I say to you that the entire thread is poor form. Good day. - G.

First off, thanks for being polite about this. :)

1. If you think there are other trolling posts in the thread, please bring them to my attention by linking to them.

2. Insulting a whole lot of folks ain't exactly bringing any more reason into a discussion.

3. I'm glad to hear that there have been no angry responses to your post. That means posters have been exhibiting some positive self-control, which is good.

In future I will be more careful with the wording of my posts so that they will not be misconstrued by 'sensitive' readers like the reader who brought my post to your attention.

If you genuinely think all the posts in that thread are trolling, you may be guilty of some "sensitivity" yourself.