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http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=493242
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=493225
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491593
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=493075
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492205
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492182
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491592
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491435
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=489444
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=490584
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=490071
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=490500
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=490284
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=489911
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=489927

Despite earlier admonishments from several users (yes, including me) that the General forum is not a blog, this user continues to post threads containing some shiny picture he saw, or some anecdote from his life, or something he read in the paper, or something someone told him, yes, containing anything but any sort of basis for a discussion.

Thread after thread after thread (many having been moved to spam or locked) he keeps posting these virtually unsubstantial threads (feel free to do a thread start search - the ones I included are but a small sample) and when confronted about them not actually being about anything, he fails to better himself and continues to treat the forum as a sort of blog where he can post these things and people are to comment on them.

Is this permissible?

These threads are different fromt he rest of General... how?

These threads are different fromt he rest of General... how?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=489927

"I was given this" and then follows what he was given.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=489911

"I worked a long time." Nothing else.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491593

This one I don't understand - I can decipher that it has nothing in it to discuss.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=493075

"Here's a video I found." Just the video. Not much else.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492205

"Here's a list I made." Again, nothing there to discuss.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492182

"Here's something I copy&pasted." Still, nothing to actually discuss.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491592

"Here's an anecdote from my life." The search for something to discuss goes on...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491435

"Look at me, I did something." Discussion? What's that?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=489444

"No, really, look, I did something." One goes, yet again, so?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=490584

"Here's a couple of pictures I found/got e-mailed to me." Nope, still nothing of my own in it to actually discuss.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=490071

"ID these movie quotes." Well, this was just spam, so I guess something that purveys discussion in the OP is again out of the question.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=490500

"Look at these pictures." Nothing there but the pictures.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=490284

"Show and don't tell, again." Really, just pics!

Now, I guess we are all entitled blogish posts once in a while where we show pictures or have something happen to us in our lives, but the custom is that one usually ask a question, or have a point of view on it, or, well, basically some sort of thing that is our own in the OP and that one can discuss.

Take for instance the "I worked a long time" thread. He could have written "I worked so and so many hours, and that got me started thinking about working hours legislation and I came to this conclusion about it - a conclusion I would like for people to give their opinions on and discuss." What was supplied was "I worked so and so hours." And that was it.

Or the picture thread about the bald eagles - he could have done something like "Look at this bird I find pretty, an endangered species. I feel sad it's an endangered species, and I'd like to discuss conservation strategies and their successes/failures." Alas, what is given is "Look at these pictures of the bald eagles. Just look."

This user besides from failing to supply the discussion and own opinion part over and over again, keeps repeating this failure and keeps making these threads, which I do have to call "blog threads" because that's basically what they are; him going "look at me, I did something/look at what I found on teh intarwebs" in a show&tell manner that is so common to blogs, but is supposed to be, IMHO at least, discouraged in discussion forums since they aren't blogs, and they aren't a place for people to spam with insubstantialities.

It is the serial nature of the occurance by the same user that is the bigger issue, though, as the first, oh, ten times it happened I thought "this is a new person, someone will set him straight and tell him this a discussion forum, not a place for him to post 'I went to the supermarket today, and that's what I did'," but somewhere around the twentieth time, and several thread moves by mods to spam/deletion later without there being a change or anyone picking up on the pattern, I started thinking: "Hmm, maybe they just haven't noticed it?" Well, I hope you have now.

Maybe you just haven't been around long enough, maybe you have and didn't notice, but General has always been full of this sort of thing. Always. People really have taken the 'anything and everything' to heart there, and have utilized that to their best ability, in spite of arguments, like yours, that perhaps there are better places for it. Especially in the case of long-term players, there seems to be a feeling of having a right to do so, at their discretion, not yours, go on at length about whatever moves them at any given moment. A moderator already made that notation here - people have always laid out the minutae in their lives there, looking for attention, validation, just a place to vent, deliberately irritate (which tends to get deated), what have you. If the forum creator has chosen to allow it, doubt your opinion on the matter is going to change it much.

Aaaaaand apologies, because I forgot the mods only tab whilst perusing several, and I shouldn't have posted at all it turns out. Too much multitasking.

As has been pointed out before, the Mods can't read every single pithy thread that comes through General. Here is a list of utter tripe, that perhaps has escaped notice as being more than just one or two spammish threads. A whole bunch of spammy threads, by different posters, is one thing. A whole bunch of spammy threads by the same poster, over and over and over again, is something else. It's a pattern. Now flaming and baiting gets more attention for sure, but spamming is also against the 'rules'.

Saying that 'this is just how General is' is a cop-out. Spam, when noticed, generally gets moved. Cut and paste spam, when noticed, gets moved, or locked. I think the original point was to avoid giving this poster the idea, via lack of action, that spamming General is actually okay.

The majority of threads in General at any given time, despite the protestations to the contrary, are not spam, and are certainly not spam of this calibre.

Edit: sorry for the two cents, considering the initial call for Mods only.

Yes, it might be annoying to some, but no, it is no different from what any other Generalite does. We all feel the urge to comment on some tedious newspaper clipping, we all relate anecdotes about our unremarkable personal lives, we all moan about the inconvenient deaths of pets, etc etc. And for the most part, few people are going to be interested in hearing about it. But some will want to hear about it. This guy may have posted more than the average number of such threads this month, but on the whole it is the way General has been forever.

I was going to make a new thread, but I realised this already existed.

How is this a debate topic or anywhere close to it?


## Dude, I'm smooth
No, I did NOT-

A) Shave my body, or ANY part of it.

B) Wax

C) Shoot lasers at my body

I did, however, back a 30ft boxtruck into a tree today .
That's it. In its entirety.

Spam? Or maybe someone could give him a link to a blog?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11439873&postcount=1

Yes, it might be annoying to some, but no, it is no different from what any other Generalite does. We all feel the urge to comment on some tedious newspaper clipping, we all relate anecdotes about our unremarkable personal lives, we all moan about the inconvenient deaths of pets, etc etc.

However, if the sum of someone's post is two words and an emoticon without the C&P as in at least one case here, it's going to get locked. As happened with The Red Arrow and his numerous other handles.

Your posts will be evaluated as if the C&P'd text is a single link. If the sum of your post is a sentence or a ridiculously short random comment about the article, your thread will be locked as having no content.

There's a difference between commenting on an article and grunting 'here article.'

I was going to make a new thread, but I realised this already existed.

How is this a debate topic or anywhere close to it?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11439873&postcount=1

This is exactly what I was talking about.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=493665
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=493547
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=493664

It continues unabated; one thread with just pics, one copy&paste article with barely a sentence of his own, and again one thread consisting of an anecdote that there is no point to.

Maybe you just haven't been around long enough, maybe you have and didn't notice, but General has always been full of this sort of thing. Always.

And Fass, urem "Baguetten",, has been around long enough to know better than to to take out his personal animosities against this poster in this fasion.

Latest batch locked. I have pointed out the need to provide a longer commentary in my lock posts.

And Fass, urem "Baguetten",, has been around long enough to know better than to to take out his personal animosities against this poster in this fasion.

I guess I'm the last to know against whom I have "personal animosities," especially when it comes to this user from whom I've made certain to steer clear in addressing other than when I tried to make him realise that these fora were not his blog. I just noticed this pattern; I don't want him banned or even reprimanded. Just to have someone with "power," and thus someone he'll listen to to make him ease up on this type of thread.

Now that TG has done just that, there is no more point to this thread and I'd like it closed, seeing as "mods only" didn't seem to work as intended.

Now that TG has done just that, there is no more point to this thread and I'd like it closed, seeing as "mods only" didn't seem to work as intended.

As long as you are posting again and you arent a mod I suppose that does open it up. Should somebody tell Designated Marksman that if he wants his blogging to be less conspicuous to baggy as well as others then he shouldnt start every mother-lovin' one of his threads like this"##"? The only camoflage he has is Occeandrives who does the same thing.

As long as you are posting again and you arent a mod I suppose that does open it up.

"Mods only" does not preclude the OP or the person whose actions are being reported, the accuser and the accused, if you will, from posting in a thread. It's a measure that's supposed to keep everyone else but the people implicated and the mods out of commenting on a thread when their input is not wanted. When you see "mod only," it's basically "please, do not post if you are not a mod or are not involved in the issue."

Now, please, respect that I have not only from the beginning asked for you to stay away, but also that I have asked that this be locked.