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http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492950

Um...because it's repulsive perhaps?

Um...because it's repulsive perhaps?
Pedophile threads galore, with huge post counts, and suddenly this, very mild thread is considered repulsive enough for closure? I'm not seeing it.

Um...because it's repulsive perhaps?


There are many other repulsive things on this forum..like the paedophilia thread, or maybe even a few...posters ;)

But honestly, there was a good discussion about it going on. Im disappointed :(

Pedophile threads galore, with huge post counts, and suddenly this, very mild thread is considered repulsive enough for closure? I'm not seeing it.

Yeah, and it wasn't even all that much about paedophilia - we were in the middle of an interesting discussion about cultural standards and legislation.

Too bad, really.

A friend just told me that Jolt has an automatic striking down policy on anything kiddy porn.

This is not a discussion which I feel comfortable permitting on a site browsed on school networks. This goes way beyond mere issues of age of consent.

This is not a discussion which I feel comfortable permitting on a site browsed on school networks. This goes way beyond mere issues of age of consent.


Can I make a thread about age of consent?

This is not a discussion which I feel comfortable permitting on a site browsed on school networks. This goes way beyond mere issues of age of consent.

I completely agree.

This is not a discussion which I feel comfortable permitting on a site browsed on school networks. This goes way beyond mere issues of age of consent.
So the pedophilia threads are okay, and this isn't? Could you please explain how that is possible? Certain posters can discuss the merits of fucking six year olds, but discussing the full frontal nudity of those aged 15-17 is worse?

So the pedophilia threads are okay, and this isn't? Could you please explain how that is possible? Certain posters can discuss the merits of fucking six year olds, but discussing the full frontal nudity of those aged 15-17 is worse?
It's not just how close conversation strays to illegal activity, but illegal material too. But the situation is under review.

You've lost it, Tactical Grace.

I came to Moderation to complain that a thread that you started, had been locked by you, because you didn't like the way it was going.

And I found this. And the Utrusca/Baguetta (sorry for misspellings) thread.

You need a week off. Take it.

jeez, i think people need to lay off TG a little.
he closed his own thread and apologised if any offence was caused, what more do ye want? i mean lets be fair, he isn't gonna ban himself or caution himself and at best it was a mild offence.

and in this matter he explained why he felt the need to close it but has now passed it on to be reviewed due to your views. what more do you want? your views have been taken into account not once but twice

jeez, i think people need to lay off TG a little.
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I didn't mean otherwise. I think TG is taking more than his/her share of the load here on NSG. There's threads that need killing, but TG is doing more than a fair share.

I just mean, Tactical Grace needs some time off!

Play some chess. Climb a mountain, go paintballing, look up old school friends. Take up smoking, even. When you're being left all the hard decisions, nothing works better than dropping your bundle.

EDIT: I want to add for "I love Oranges" that I didn't post to any of those threads.

This (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492826) was a bit of friendly banter misunderstood by a third party. No-one got hurt.

This (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492950) is not appropriate discussion for a forum used by kids.

And me locking my own thread because an acknowedged error on my part led to all sorts of unpleasantness? I think you will find that would be reasonably expected of me.

I hope this clarifies any misunderstanding.

Here is your post locking your own thread:
A couple of more pages on, I am very saddened and disappointed that my post has been interpreted in the way in which it was, and am locking the thread because it is not going in an acceptable direction. Hostility in the direction of the forum was not my intention, I apologise if anyone was offended, though I can see that some people set out to be and could not resist piling in.
Point out to me the apologetic bit of that.

Point out to me the apologetic bit of that.
I'm guessing it's this bit:

Hostility in the direction of the forum was not my intention, I apologise if anyone was offended

(This is kinda off-topic in this thread, of course.)

OK. I've given my advice, as an avowed newbie on the forum, to a respected moderator. There's nothing more I can say, and I'm happy to admit I over-reacted.

No irony intended. I always try to make moderation unneccesary, by apologizing and distracting and drawing fire. I wouldn't be a moderator for anything, including money.

You've lost it, Tactical Grace.

*snip*

You need a week off. Take it.
I don't know why suddenly every asshole thinks he should be telling the mods what to do.

I don't know why suddenly every asshole thinks he should be telling the mods what to do.

I tell it like I see it, without fear or favour.
Mod's decisions attract more scrutiny, because they have more consequences.
I'll slap you down, post count notwithstanding, the moment I see the need.
Like now.

I'm not "every asshole." I'm sure glad I'm not yours.
EDIT: Peace, you all. I came to blow off steam, I've done that. Sorry for any offence.

You need a week off. Take it.

When you're a moderator, you can make that determination.

As Tactical Grace says, the situation re: threads about pedophilia are currently under review. Discussions of age of consent would be all right providing there is discussion. However, Child Pornography IS in fact illegal and as such, the thread is locked.

You've lost it, Tactical Grace.

Anyone who's been around the community long enough to follow the moderation debates about pediophilia (most of which has not been disclosed to the public, these are just the final reports) knows that it is a stressful issue that the moderators have taken a lot of time to consider - many of which actually refused to give their opinions because they had difficulty being unbiased on the matter. I understand Max Barry, himself, weighed into the debate. When one considers how much the moderators think over this matter and how much time has been invested into considering these threads, you realize that moderators are struggling with these threads and being both unbiased and keeping the forum standards. Because your balance between those two is different than TGs doesn't mean he's lost it and in this case, it just means that the moderators at large haven't come to a consensus.

Considering these unpaid volunteers put in a lot of hours and then hit stressful topics like this, I think you should give them a break if they make a decision you disagree with. Post why you disagree with the decision, sure, but don't hound them about it.

Speaking of which:

It's not just how close conversation strays to illegal activity, but illegal material too. But the situation is under review.

The thread started off with "would society benefit if it changed the laws to allow this?" Opinions from both sides appeared, and further questions of legalities of similar, less-contraversial things came up along with other contraversial but legal topics. IMO, the thread was an excellent thread and it is a shame if it is ruled illegal.

I just want to add my support for everything Sinuhue has said.

How can a child porn thread be worse than a thread about adults fucking children? Doesn't work out.

I just want to add my support for everything Sinuhue has said.

How can a child porn thread be worse than a thread about adults fucking children? Doesn't work out.
I think, to be fair, the decision was based on legalities outside of the ToS, so perhaps a redirect on the topic and a thread name change? The subject wasn't really child pornography, but age of consent laws in terms of non-sexual nudity.