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There is a thread in General about a NSer losing his father, it seems some new person came in and decided to be a bit of a smartass.

Well it started this whole mess of un-needed drama..

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492871&page=2

Maybe a mod could go through and delete the unnessisary post?

Just to not add to the OPs.. bad feelings.


Sorry for taking some of your time, and thanks.

This really takes the piss:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11411393&postcount=53

He calls him a "****".

I think there should be some sort of forum rulling against these kind of threads. People should not be aloud to post things like this, true or not, because all it results in is flaming and unnescecerry sadness. Threads like ths should be posted in the advice forum on jolt.

There are exceptions of course for people who are very popular on these forums (zooke)

I believe this one is the worst. :(

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11411393&postcount=53

Edit: Hyd got there too.

I agree with Hydesland. We have no idea if this is someone posting to get a rise out of people...just like we aren't sure about many of the threats of suicide or tales of other tragedies. If these claims are true, they really ought not to be dealt with here, where people will respond in ways that could adversely affect the poster (assuming a fragile emotional state), and if they are false...well that is frankly despicable, and a sorry excuse for trolling. Of course, barring extraordinary circumstances, the mods aren't going to be able to make the call as to these claims veracity...so I don't know. Do we just let them post 'in case' we can actually 'help'?

I'm not sure that not permitting such threads in General would accomplish anything (apart from the question how to go about it - pushing them in "spam" or "chat" like the hundredth Chuck Norris thread would be more than cold-hearted, assuming the OP is telling the truth).

I can absolutely see how some people would indeed consider NS General their "friends", like MrMopar stated, and how they would feel the need to come here rather quickly after such an event, esp. if they're in their early teens. I also think that in a situation like that, kids are easily forgotten and overlooked in the home since the adults in the family are shell-shocked and busy with all those things that need to be arranged. It only just happened - chances are he ended up sitting in his room alone eventually while everyone is bustling around him.

I certainly see the possibility that threads like these are just made up in a misguided attempt to make oneself seem interesting.
I fell for that once before, in the case of Israelities et Buddhists.
And I didn't immediately post in the thread today, either - I took the time, for example, to check if MrMopar was happily looking at other threads while we were offering condolences. He wasn't, and while certainly not proof of anything, I decided it was good enough for me to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I'd like to point out that not very many people posted in that thread to begin with - most posts are by or in reply to the obnoxious guy mentioned in the OP here. So I'm guessing many people are wary of falling for some shtick or giving some fakester a platform. Which is totally fine and, IMHO, the way to deal with threads like this. If you don't believe it, don't post in it.
But as long as the thread isn't created with the obvious goal of riling up people (like by saying their father died in a terrorist attack by *insert organization here* or something like that) I wouldn't really see the point of forbidding / locking / moving it, and certainly not of flaming the OP for making it.

Especially since such a thread from a long-time, well-known poster would never be in doubt, everybody would fall over themselves to let them know how sorry they were, so I think it would be a tad hypocritical to disallow them for everybody else.

And, after all, threads like this turn up very rarely here on NS, so I think we can all stomach the odd one once in a while for the sake of giving someone the benefit of the doubt instead of ripping them to shreds, even if some of them do eventually turn out to have made things up.

Also, it's not like the OP was "asking for help or advice from a bunch of strangers on an internet forum", as it is usually put, he was merely stating what had happened (again, presuming it's true).

Phillistine Islands is a prick

I think that these threads shoudl be allowed, but can a moderator please delete all the unessesary posts (Phillistine Island's ones, and those which are responses to him)

Someone has lost a family member, and this guys comes and ruins the whole thing

I back everyone else up here.

So why hasn't a mod adressed this yet?

So why hasn't a mod adressed this yet?

You might be surprised by this, but the mods, since they don't get paid, actually have real jobs and some are in school. I'm quite certain they will address this and even that they will address it quickly WHEN they see it.

EDIT: Also keep in mind that not all mods have the same level of experience. In touchy subjects, many mods seek a concensus or at least try to bounce the reaction off of other mods. They'll deal with it, but you have to be more patient than three hours of waiting conveys.

You might be surprised by this, but the mods, since they don't get paid, actually have real jobs and some are in school. I'm quite certain they will address this and even that they will address it quickly WHEN they see it.

EDIT: Also keep in mind that not all mods have the same level of experience. In touchy subjects, many mods seek a concensus or at least try to bounce the reaction off of other mods. They'll deal with it, but you have to be more patient than three hours of waiting conveys.

Well it's been over 4 hours, and other things have been adressed since then. I guess your Edit was the reason though.

The OP is gone so there is no worries about that. The troll has been fairly well nailed throughout the thread. And the thread has died. Nothing is going to change between now and four hours from now. There is no real benefit to your impatience.

I mainly wanted to see what the mods comments would be to the other issues raised, like should these sorts of threads be aloud or not. I'm feeling ill and so i havn't got much else to pass the time at the moment :(

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11412909#post11412909

The thread is locked and a warning handed out. Yes, such threads are allowable, malicious attacks and namecalling of posters is not.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11412909#post11412909

The thread is locked and a warning handed out. Yes, such threads are allowable, malicious attacks and namecalling of posters is not.

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So why hasn't a mod adressed this yet?Well... when you wrote this, I had been in bed for about 3 hours. Not everyone's on the same schedule that you are.

And since this has been taken care of...