NationStates Jolt Archive

Okay, this is my first time posting, and Ive read the one stop help page or whatever and it didnt say no to this, so...

Alright I dont know whats going on but I was rejected from the UN saying that I have more than one account in it. WTF??? I only have 2-3 accounts that have signed in on this computer, and those are my old accounts, and theyve never even TOUCHED the UN. My brother has his own computer but we run under a router, so that might give us the same IP or something. But what the heck do you guys use to detect multiple accounts in the UN?? Two of my friends have signed on on my bro's computer, and only one of em are in the UN. He's The Republic of Jon M, and you can see that he's only signed on at most 3 times under our IP. This thing you guys use to "detect" is pretty flawed. C'mon guys I didnt do anything wrong. Fix it please.

you can probably find some answers here:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=274575

as for what the mods use to detect multis, the topic says there are 4 different methods, but i think there are more than that now.

One UN nation per IP not per computer.

One UN nation per IP not per computer.
No, HC, that's not the rule. It's still "one per computer". Families with single IP home networks and multiple computers are still welcome to create individual UN nations, but they must make sure to play their nations ONLY on their computers.

No, HC, that's not the rule. It's still "one per computer". Families with single IP home networks and multiple computers are still welcome to create individual UN nations, but they must make sure to play their nations ONLY on their computers.
ah, I didn't know that, sorry for being dumb:p

No, HC, that's not the rule. It's still "one per computer". Families with single IP home networks and multiple computers are still welcome to create individual UN nations, but they must make sure to play their nations ONLY on their computers.

But what if we end up using it at school or in another public place? Do we just have to take the chance that no one else who has used that computer plays Nation States? And even if that was the case, why would a nation be booted for using the same computer as another nation only once? SHouldn't there be something that eliminates those cases? Also wouldn't you be able to eliminate a lot of fake detections by looking at the two suspected nations and seeing if they ever were on at the same time on two different computers and therefore probably wouldn't be the same person? And couldn't you tell if the two users were on the same IP adress but normally used 2 different computers and therefore the using of two accounts on the same computer was most likely a mistake if it occured only once or twice? Also... isn't this flawed because I could claim to have another sister than I have and then I would log on to "her" account only on one of my family's computers and I would log on to my account only on another of my family's computers?

Also... my friends also used their accounts (most of them are UN members) on the school computers and most likely overlapped computers at one point or another and yet I am the only one singled out?

Various detection methods exist, and we do not discuss them. From what I observed during my time as a GM, common sense is applied to cases which are not straightforward.

The rules do have to be enforced however, even for "only once" offenses - sometimes it only takes a one-off disposable multi to spoil the gameplay of a region.

No, HC, that's not the rule. It's still "one per computer". Families with single IP home networks and multiple computers are still welcome to create individual UN nations, but they must make sure to play their nations ONLY on their computers.


That one's new to me too...

That one's new to me too...
Nothing new about it, CG. It's just a rephrase of this post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9709820#post9709820). Perhaps my phrasing is confusing. If so, refer to the "Ejected from the UN" thread for the official ruling, which hasn't changed.

No, HC, that's not the rule. It's still "one per computer". Families with single IP home networks and multiple computers are still welcome to create individual UN nations, but they must make sure to play their nations ONLY on their separate computers.
Better?

Damn. If I'd known that, my sons could have had a UN nation, too (too late now, we've all used both computers). But this seems to mean I could use my computer at work to access my UN nation -- wow! I haven't done it so far, because I know one of the other guys plays NS and he couldn't remember whether he'd ever accessed his UN nation at work.

So, just making sure: at work, he uses his terminal, I use my terminal, we never swap terminals, we both post from the same IP address, we're both on the same building-wide system; can we both safely log into our UN nations?

No, HC, that's not the rule. It's still "one per computer". Families with single IP home networks and multiple computers are still welcome to create individual UN nations, but they must make sure to play their nations ONLY on their computers.

Okay, this just shows how unflexible this is. It should be one per PERSON. The one per computer would mean that families with one computer wont be able to have all members be in the UN. So, am I still banned from the UN or is your so called "common sense" isn't so common to see that I wasn't cheating??

Okay, this just shows how unflexible this is. It should be one per PERSON. The one per computer would mean that families with one computer wont be able to have all members be in the UN. So, am I still banned from the UN or is your so called "common sense" isn't so common to see that I wasn't cheating??

and how do you propose the mods be able to view who is sitting behind the computer screen? I think everyone agrees that the current system isn't a perfect solution, but this isn't a perfect world.

But maybe it's the best of all possible worlds... what say you Voltaire? :D

and how do you propose the mods be able to view who is sitting behind the computer screen? I think everyone agrees that the current system isn't a perfect solution, but this isn't a perfect world.

Youre an idiot. Just because its not perfect doesnt mean that everything has a right to be faulty. Does that mean the only people in the UN are spoiled only childs? And i dont know how they will see whos using the computers, because its not my job. But at least investigate my problem and see that only one user in this whole household has been active in the UN.

Youre an idiot.
:rolleyes:

File a Getting Help request.

:rolleyes:

File a Getting Help request.
And after that, please read the stickies. You might want to try the one second from the top of this forum, entitled "Ejected from the UN? Here's why (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=274575)" It answers the question of why the rule is 1 UN nation per computer.

As much as some people seem to think we are, we're not omniscient gods. We're not in your house, we don't know who's sitting at a computer.