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Ah, so it's speculation when it doesn't follow your madness, I mean, opinion, but it's fact when it does?

I state as a fact that Ny Nordland had sex with his 3-year old sister. It's speculation to say otherwise.

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Norwegians? Ah, one of those small groups that are part of the ACTUAL group, the "European"?

Since Ny Nordland has a pathological inability to see how the shoe fits when it's on the other shoe, he won't get my joke, but you people with a brain can, so, liked it? :)


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They're stupid enough that the answer is yes, Bottle.

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Actually, that not only is PRECISELY what the Christian interpretation of God preaches, it's the OPPOSITE of what the Islamic one does. Now go away, bug.

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Which is why you used the word as "calibrÉ", is it, blabbering idiot?

Also, I pointed out lots of things you ignored simply because it doesn't fit your bigoted point of view. Ignorance should be made of sterner stuff, don't you think, Himmler? And I have yet to read anything even coherent, let alone intelligent that you said.

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Ore wa Burajirujin desu...

Translation, I'm Brazilian. And not even from Asian descent, but I like the culture. :)

And compared to Ny Nordland, a retarded onion would have more mental capacity.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11274997&postcount=279

Wow. Watch out, everyone, as "coolness" becomes Nordland's criteria in linguistics.

And overusing a word just for the sake of style is not stylish. I should know, I am stylish.

Furthermore, you could choose not to turn this into a spelling bee and start answering my points as if you were an intelligent person...

If you were an intelligent person.

Heck, if you were a person.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11275028&postcount=284

EDIT: Actually, it's 1am. Someone else can sort it.

I think you should post what you're saying as well. You've been baiting people in that thread for a bit.

I'm not surprised that this disgusting comments come from you....Your calibré is clear....
Please ignore me, it'd clean some of the post pollution that posters like you are creating. I've yet to hear anything intelligent you said.
See what I mean, when I say you and Heikoku are of same calibre...
Have you heard of figurative speech? I was hoping your comeback to my threads would be with much much more intelligent posts. I'm disappointed.
About muslim world and human rights, you are only speculating that things are going better there.
This answer is so idiotic, I guess it was sarcastic. However, I cant be sure, given the quality of Heikoku's previous posts.
If 75% of USA's population consisted of same ethnicity, you might have a point. But I gather that you still can not comprehend the difference between race and ethnicity. I'm not surprised though. You are just well...you...
If you dont know about the treatment of women and other people in these societies, it is your ignorancy. If you'll argue that this opressive culture isnt inferior, it'd be be even more bullshit than your current post I am answering to. About Denial and a sense of personal insecurity, they are your own irrevelant ad hominem attacks and they arent worth even a reply.
Tactical Grace, Dont assume when you can not understand my points.
Funny that ignorance accusations come from you. I guess you are no better than some others.
Is making idiotic arguments contagious? We say sky is blue. Does it mean sky is 100% of the time 100% blue?
Even 9 year olds can apply such common sense....

This is after Tactical Grace gave you a heads up that he was considering a warning for Trolling and locking the thread.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11259687&postcount=191

You troll and complain when people fall into your net.

Ny Nordland and Heikoku have each been given a week off.

If I really felt like doing a post analysis of both players, I suspect they would both have been deleted. They should be grateful that both Tactical Grace and I were tired today.

Thanks for picking it up, Fris.

To this I would add that I have for a long time gone easy on some of the culture wars going on in the General Forum, to see if anything meaningful can come of them. To see if the whole idea of intrinsic cultural decadence could be laid to rest with arguments, if the tone would change and compromises would emerge.

Unfortunately, when people copy & paste the same agenda from racist or extreme organisations, publications, bloggers, commentators, and similarly bitter fruits of their own contemplation, then proceed to attack the bearers of opposing views - then there is little point.

The NS General Forum is intended as a forum for debate. It is not a captive audience to whom anyone can preach. I want to see dialogue, not preaching to the converted and baiting of opponents.

This thread is one of many I have seen, but it is typical of what will no longer be treated with quite the same leniency. If you wish to attack a group defined by nationality, race, religion or politics, beware of making offensive sweeping generalisations such as "rapists", "terrorists" or "freedom-haters". You may not take a characteristic which may not even be characteristic, and use it to advocate ethnic cleansing or political violence. Theories of intrinsic degeneracy are trolling, and will be treated as such.

The experiment is over. By all means focus on specific issues, but fight your culture wars elsewhere.

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Wow. A part of me looks on this with a certain relief. But I don't view recents events with the same exasperation that you do. We have changed posters like this in the past and we very likely will in the future. I know many of us haven't had the patience we should with such efforts, but we need to. What's the alternative? Giving up?

When I was a boy, my grandfather used to teach me things I wholly rejected. Repeatedly. My grandfather passed away years ago, but his lessons continue to change me. These posters are generally young and often obstinent, but that doesn't mean they don't hear us. They are seeing all of the arguments for their position being dismantled. And when they finally are put in a position of analyzing their beliefs in a real way, that can't do anything but push them to a more reasonable direction. It worked for me.

There is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come - Victor Hugo. We all know that this idea's time has come, so what are we afraid of.

Of course, enforce the rules; You guys do an excellent job of that. Regardless of what Max's intent was when he created this site, it's become a vehicle for change. It changed me into someone more respectful of rights and more concerned about peace. It's a powerful force. An act of love. Please don't let frustration with recent posters change that.

It's a question of acceptable style. Trolling / preaching is not an acceptable style. One can debate in a partisan way the issues that arise when cultures clash, but there are acceptable and unacceptable ways of doing it. Every time we have a new jewish/islamic/liberal/gay conspiracy fad, people are given ample time to adapt, but then it's a clear-out time for those who simply can't cut it. We are under no particular obligation to ensure their confidence in their views is undermined. If some go away still bigots, I am not bothered in the least, so long as they no longer cause trouble in the forum. There is a balance to be struck between individual improvement, and order.

It's a question of acceptable style. Trolling / preaching is not an acceptable style. One can debate in a partisan way the issues that arise when cultures clash, but there are acceptable and unacceptable ways of doing it. Every time we have a new jewish/islamic/liberal/gay conspiracy fad, people are given ample time to adapt, but then it's a clear-out time for those who simply can't cut it. We are under no particular obligation to ensure their confidence in their views is undermined. If some go away still bigots, I am not bothered in the least, so long as they no longer cause trouble in the forum. There is a balance to be struck between individual improvement, and order.

Then how is that different than it's always been. Your earlier post seemed a bit more to end of a lowered tolerance for particular views that tend to lend to hardheadedness. So long as you're not suggesting that your encouragement of shining the light into the dark corners is over then disregard what I said.

We're not talking about individual improvement. We're talking about general improvement. Who cares if you enlighten Jocabia, or entertain him, or make more educated? However, you guys are changing things in a more general way. Less bigots. More politically involved people. Increased interest in education and support for ones' arguments. And the balance you've always struck has not been disregarding that effort but instead balancing that effort against the particular individuals involved in that effort. A balance I've always been glad for.

Then how is that different than it's always been. Your earlier post seemed a bit more to end of a lowered tolerance for particular views that tend to lend to hardheadedness. So long as you're not suggesting that your encouragement of shining the light into the dark corners is over then disregard what I said.
It's a cyclical thing. Of course we will continue to shine lights into dark corners. It's just that every now and then, it's time to toss in a flash-bang and drag the most stubborn examples out. People can have all the controversy they want, but a few people are currently outstaying their welcome, and if their behaviour does not change, their threads will not be getting to a dozen pages any more. That's what I meant. A crackdown on the current crop of trouble-makers, not a policy change that means changes for everyone.

It's a cyclical thing. Of course we will continue to shine lights into dark corners. It's just that every now and then, it's time to toss in a flash-bang and drag the most stubborn examples out. People can have all the controversy they want, but a few people are currently outstaying their welcome, and if their behaviour does not change, their threads will not be getting to a dozen pages any more. That's what I meant. A crackdown on the current crop of trouble-makers, not a policy change that means changes for everyone.
Happy to hear it. I misunderstood.