NationStates Jolt Archive


Question about a missing poster?

The Atlantian islands
24-06-2006, 22:09
Did Fass get deleted by mod, or did he just simply stop logging into his nation?

Any answers would be great, thanks.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
24-06-2006, 22:22
Um...

1) you can not only find his profile by using the search function on the top left under the Nationstates banner, you can also see in his profile when he last logged in to the forum.

2) you can not only look up his nation by using the search function in "The World" on the Nationstates main page, you can also see in his nation's page when he last logged in to his nation.
Crazy girl
24-06-2006, 23:12
Try finding his nation's page?
You can't view it if a nation no longer exists.
Um...

1) you can not only find his profile by using the search function on the top left under the Nationstates banner, you can also see in his profile when he last logged in to the forum.

2) you can not only look up his nation by using the search function in "The World" on the Nationstates main page, you can also see in his nation's page when he last logged in to his nation.
HotRodia
24-06-2006, 23:19
His nation doesn't come up in a search for it, folks.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
24-06-2006, 23:46
That's what I get for being a smartass (albeit a non-smartass-y, helpful one) without doing the research...

I actually only checked his forum profile and was too lazy to search for his nation, figuring that if his profile was still around there was no way his nation was gone. Seems I was wrong. :(
Crazy girl
24-06-2006, 23:54
When your nations ceases to exist, the account gets banned, whether it is because of mod action or not logging in. It still exists though, the owner just can't access it.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
24-06-2006, 23:56
Aha, thanks.
Zilam
25-06-2006, 07:41
How long is it before the account is deated? I mean for not loggin in? Isn't it like 28days?
The Most Glorious Hack
25-06-2006, 08:21
28 days normally; 60 in vacation mode.
Enn
25-06-2006, 10:04
I suspect Fass may have done something many people have done before: just going straight to Jolt and posting without actually getting around to logging into NS.

Though I may be completely wrong.
The Atlantian islands
25-06-2006, 21:58
28 days normally; 60 in vacation mode.

Could you tell me what happend to his account?
The Most Glorious Hack
26-06-2006, 01:32
The account was deleted for numerous rules violations.
Zilam
26-06-2006, 06:42
The account was deleted for numerous rules violations.


Whoa...Fass? No way...thats too bad. Are you under any oath that you can't tell us what he did?
The Most Glorious Hack
26-06-2006, 07:19
Just the typical curtesy that we extend even to posters who don't respect our rules. As you are not he, I feel no obligation to state why.

Of course, from where I'm sitting, it's painfully obvious.
Philosopy
26-06-2006, 12:07
The account was deleted for numerous rules violations.
I didn't see anything flagged up in here...do you keep a file on us all? I always thought Fass was hovering on the very edge of what was reasonable, but the delete at this time still seems a little random.

If you do keep track on us, can we request to see what information you have? I'd quite like to know if you're going to randomly strike me down as well for rule violations I didn't know I'd committed.
Katganistan
26-06-2006, 12:31
I didn't see anything flagged up in here...do you keep a file on us all?
Yes, we do, if your nation's been brought to our attention for rulebreaking behavior.

I always thought Fass was hovering on the very edge of what was reasonable, but the delete at this time still seems a little random.
Everyone has an opinion. The admin, however, trusts those of the moderating team they put into place.

If you do keep track on us, can we request to see what information you have? I'd quite like to know if you're going to randomly strike me down as well for rule violations I didn't know I'd committed.

You can't request to see the information we have simply because 1)if you have done nothing, there is no information to report back and 2) everyone who has had an entry made into their file has gotten a warning along with it telling them what they were warned for either in the thread they were posting in or telegrammed to them if they were involved in a game violation, and 3) we are NOT going to waste time with a personal telegram to each person telling them what they already know.

You say yourself that you recognise that Fass was pushing the envelope; how then can you characterize this as "random?"
Philosopy
26-06-2006, 14:18
You say yourself that you recognise that Fass was pushing the envelope; how then can you characterize this as "random?"
I'm not questioning your decision to do it; as good a poster Fass was, he was clearly pushing it on several occasions, and I often felt it was only his reputation on the forum that was preventing him from being reported.

Having said this, the Moderators usually rely on people linking to particular posts in this forum, as they cannot be expected to watch everything every single poster has said. As I have seen no report about something stronger then this I was somewhat surprised to see him struck off, hence my 'random' comment. Hack refers to 'numerous rule violations'; however, I never saw Fass so much as warned by the Mods.

I'm not trying to criticise, or to be honest even make a point; I was just curious as to why it happened at this moment in time. However, between youself and Hack, you have already answered and made it clear this information will not be available to us.
Sinuhue
26-06-2006, 23:08
Fass gone, and a rule-breaking, flame-baiting, trolling poster like Eutrusca remains? Down the toilet it goes...time for another hiatus I suppose.
Smokey the NSer
27-06-2006, 02:40
Fass gone, and a rule-breaking, flame-baiting, trolling poster like Eutrusca remains? Down the toilet it goes...time for another hiatus I suppose.

You leaving the forum won't solve it's problems, Sin. :)
Sinuhue
27-06-2006, 02:50
You leaving the forum won't solve it's problems, Sin. :)
Nothing I do will...but a hiatus will prevent me from possibly suiciding by mod...
Smokey the NSer
27-06-2006, 02:55
Nothing I do will...but a hiatus will prevent me from possibly suiciding by mod...

That's a good thing. I hope to see you back soon.
Keruvalia
27-06-2006, 03:10
Wait .... Fass will be a sarcastic, insane person and get deleted ...

Eutrusca will say he's going to blow up a mosque and Deep Kimchi will call for the genocide of all Muslims without even a warning?

Yikes.

Fass was one of the good guys. No matter what he thought or how he felt, he'd approach every situation as an individual situation. He never horribly generalised to an offensive degree and I'm sorry if being gay got him poofed. (ba dum chik)

*sigh*

Whatever. I'll just stay out of this one, but I will express my absolute distaste that Fass is gone and certain others aren't.
Keruvalia
27-06-2006, 03:12
Fass gone, and a rule-breaking, flame-baiting, trolling poster like Eutrusca remains? Down the toilet it goes...time for another hiatus I suppose.

No ... stay. Surely someone, somewhere will recognize this error.
Frisbeeteria
27-06-2006, 03:20
The nation "Fass" is gone, but what makes you think the player has left the game? Virtually everyone that gets deleted over accumulated demerits returns with a puppet or two ... or three ... or four. Deletion is our way of saying, "You went too far this time, chief." It's hardly catastophic.

NS Moderation allows for the possibility of redemption. How many web games do that? I bet it's not a huge number. Fass will be back, if he's not already. All this whining is pointless.
Sinuhue
27-06-2006, 04:51
Whining is never pointless Fris. The point might be trivial....but I did get the impression that this was a DoS and not just a DEAT...sorry if I jumped to conclusions.
The Most Glorious Hack
27-06-2006, 04:57
I did get the impression that this was a DoS and not just a DEAT...sorry if I jumped to conclusions."He was deleted for multiple infractions" is what I said. Nowhere did I mention a DoS. If a player is no longer welcome on this site, we'll be explicit about it; we don't split hairs or mince words.
Sinuhue
27-06-2006, 05:15
"He was deleted for multiple infractions" is what I said. Nowhere did I mention a DoS. If a player is no longer welcome on this site, we'll be explicit about it; we don't split hairs or mince words.
True. Deletion just sounds so final. Anyway, my spirits are cheered (as I'm SURE was you intention) and...

*fades away in embarrasment*
The Atlantian islands
27-06-2006, 12:06
The nation "Fass" is gone, but what makes you think the player has left the game?

Exactly;)

You mods are a bright group, arnt ya?
The Atlantian islands
27-06-2006, 12:08
Wait .... Fass will be a sarcastic, insane person and get deleted ...

Eutrusca will say he's going to blow up a mosque and Deep Kimchi will call for the genocide of all Muslims without even a warning?

Yikes.

Fass was one of the good guys. No matter what he thought or how he felt, he'd approach every situation as an individual situation. He never horribly generalised to an offensive degree and I'm sorry if being gay got him poofed. (ba dum chik)

*sigh*

Whatever. I'll just stay out of this one, but I will express my absolute distaste that Fass is gone and certain others aren't.

Fass gone, and a rule-breaking, flame-baiting, trolling poster like Eutrusca remains? Down the toilet it goes...time for another hiatus I suppose.


Guys...guys...just because someone gets in trouble doesnt mean you have to go all first grade on the mods and say...but he, well he...but Eut...well DK...I'm sure they know what other popular posters do, but for whatever reason chose Fass. They do know more than they let on, afterall.
The Atlantian islands
27-06-2006, 12:09
time for another hiatus I suppose.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....:p
Ny Nordland
27-06-2006, 12:55
The nation "Fass" is gone, but what makes you think the player has left the game? Virtually everyone that gets deleted over accumulated demerits returns with a puppet or two ... or three ... or four. Deletion is our way of saying, "You went too far this time, chief." It's hardly catastophic.

NS Moderation allows for the possibility of redemption. How many web games do that? I bet it's not a huge number. Fass will be back, if he's not already. All this whining is pointless.

I guess he returned already, he might be Ithaka...
Frisbeeteria
27-06-2006, 12:58
It appears that we're done here apart from speculation and spam.