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Hi,

I'll attempt to keep this short.

Game goes on for a couple months. (rp's spin off threads etc..)

Game starter leaves.(sorta) ramissle

Transylvania another player decides to remap the area, and change the maps.

It just happens to erase two of my provinces sink one of my island chains and on top of this he gave one of my provinces to another player (this all without consulting me) this in his 'spin off' irathria which he now claims is the original

I tend to disagree saying that he is entitled to play how he would like in his own world, however the catch is that he is declaring all the original threads 'void' and I am still playing in them.

Basically Transylvania is both flaming me and being disruptive in the threads I use. I have already made the distinction between the new irathria and the original but he seems intent on hijacking the original irathria, and is trying to get the original threads locked, and at failing that is now trying to kill them by being a general nusiance.

I've tried to reason with the guy but he doesn't seem to be on the same communication level as me.

Is there some way to get the guy to understand that him going into threads he is not interested in and declaring them void, is generally not an appropriate thing to do. I am fine if the guy would like to keep posting or playing but essentially the guy is trying to be a dictator and say what is allowed or not, including threads i have made, that don't even involve him.

He is wasting a lot of my time, and if I wern't such a laid back person I'd be extremely pissed off at the guy for his blatant ignorance and insulting behavior.


Three threads involved.


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=480864
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472094
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472097
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I apologize in advance for wasting your time with this petty issue; I'm not 100% sure what type of behavior is appropriate around here, but it is largely ruining my capacity to continue in threads and make good use of my time playing rather then responding to his flames.

Oh…I’m flaming you. What do you call when you called me an a$$? The link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10928053&postcount=171) for the proof. Mods, I’m trying to get in touch with Ramissle, I TMed today. Told him in a short TM, what was going on and everything. And asked him to lock the threads.

Hi,

I'll attempt to keep this short.

Game goes on for a couple months. (rp's spin off threads etc..)

Game starter leaves.(sorta) ramissle

Transylvania another player decides to remap the area, and change the maps.

It just happens to erase two of my provinces sink one of my island chains and on top of this he gave one of my provinces to another player (this all without consulting me) this in his 'spin off' irathria which he now claims is the original

I tend to disagree saying that he is entitled to play how he would like in his own world, however the catch is that he is declaring all the original threads 'void' and I am still playing in them.

Basically Transylvania is both flaming me and being disruptive in the threads I use. I have already made the distinction between the new irathria and the original but he seems intent on hijacking the original irathria, and is trying to get the original threads locked, and at failing that is now trying to kill them by being a general nusiance.

I've tried to reason with the guy but he doesn't seem to be on the same communication level as me.

Is there some way to get the guy to understand that him going into threads he is not interested in and declaring them void, is generally not an appropriate thing to do. I am fine if the guy would like to keep posting or playing but essentially the guy is trying to be a dictator and say what is allowed or not, including threads i have made, that don't even involve him.

He is wasting a lot of my time, and if I wern't such a laid back person I'd be extremely pissed off at the guy for his blatant ignorance and insulting behavior.


Three threads involved.


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=480864
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472094
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472097
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I apologize in advance for wasting your time with this petty issue; I'm not 100% sure what type of behavior is appropriate around here, but it is largely ruining my capacity to continue in threads and make good use of my time playing rather then responding to his flames.

Specific posts generally help in getting a quick reply and in having an action occur on the part of the mods.

Sorta I said you were being an a$$, not that you were one.

I think there is a distinct difference between the two. One is directed at an action or behavior and the other is directed towards a person. Not that you seem to be able to comprehend anything I write regardless.

Were you?

Sorta I said you were being an a$$, not that you were one.

I think there is a distinct difference between the two. One is directed at an action or behavior and the other is directed towards a person. Not that you seem to be able to comprehend anything I write regardless.

Were you?

Another bit of advice. Don't bicker in moderation. We all do it from time to time, but it hurts your case. Present your evidence. Ask for help and wait.

Another bit of advice. Don't bicker in moderation. We all do it from time to time, but it hurts your case. Present your evidence. Ask for help and wait.

That is what I did. I add that little post into the mix of everything.

That is what I did. I add that little post into the mix of everything.

Out of curiosity, why do you care if he wants to continue playing in the old threads. What difference does it make to you if he wishes to carry out that game while you branch off in whatever direction? Is there simply "not enough room in this town for the two of [you]"?

Specific posts general help in getting a quick reply and in having an action occur on the part of the mods.


if I translated right, you said go to 'general help'.

P.s. JWolf if you'd like to talk about this fine but essentially what I am looking for is.


1. Either you play in the threads you post in, and/or you don't declare a thread over without consulting the other people using the thread.

2. The only way we are going to be in a common Irathria is if you continue the timeline without changing the territorial political map without consulting first with the people involved.

3. You alone can choose to recognize something as being legitimate or not but you cannot force your opinion on other people.

4. If someone requests you not spam their thread, you don't spam their thread.

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Can you understand or agree to this. If so why not just rejoin the original threads. If a new thread is required start one; however, obviously you are blatantly trying to offend/flame and exclude me by changing my provincial and territorial maps (and only mine) without even asking if I am ok with it first.

Don't go around saying what is allowable for threads I start, plain and simple. If you have an issue ignore them and start your own, but trying to get threads that arn't your locked or killed, in my opinion isn't appropriate behavior.

If you can't understand what i've written I think communication with you is largely redundant.

In my opinion your behavior is unappropriate, and if it continues I ask that you not assosiate with any threads I am involved in, and I will attempt not to assosiate with any threads you are involved in.

Thankyou.

if I translated right, you said go to 'general help'.

P.s. JWolf if you'd like to talk about this fine but essentially what I am looking for is.


1. Either you play in the threads you post in, and/or you don't declare a thread over without consulting the other people using the thread.

2. The only way we are going to be in a common Irathria is if you continue the timeline without changing the territorial political map without consulting first with the people involved.

3. You alone can choose to recognize something as being legitimate or not but you cannot force your opinion on other people.

4. If someone requests you not spam their thread, you don't spam their thread.

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Can you understand or agree to this. If so why not just rejoin the original threads. If a new thread is required start one; however, obviously you are blatantly trying to offend/flame and exclude me by changing my provincial and territorial maps (and only mine) without even asking if I am ok with it first.

Don't go around saying what is allowable for threads I start, plain and simple. If you have an issue ignore them and start your own, but trying to get threads that arn't your locked or killed, in my opinion is appropriate behavior.

If you can't understand what i've written I think communication with you is largely redundant.

In my opinion your behavior is unappropriate, and if it continues I ask that you not assosiate with any threads I am involved in, and I will attempt not to assosiate with any threads you are involved in.

Thankyou.


Sorry, I meant to say generally help. The point is that posting which posts you have a problem with will help you get a quicker response.

It isn't so much the threads but the behavior of Transylvania... effectively him saying that threads are void and such on the three listed above.

The threads themselves are fine, I just find his hijacking, trolling and flamming inciting and degrading of my personal enjoyment.

For someone with 'only' dyslecsia and not outright traumatic brain damage I would think he clearly knows what he is doing.

The post stating

;this thread is void' repeatedly is one of my major concerns.


He could use something more appropriate like I do not endorse this thread as one that I can play in or include as one in my timeline.

It isn't so much the threads but the behavior of Transylvania... effectively him saying that threads are void and such on the three listed above.

The threads themselves are fine, I just find his hijacking, trolling and flamming inciting and degrading of my personal enjoyment.

For someone with 'only' dyslecsia and not outright traumatic brain damage I would think he clearly knows what he is doing.

The post stating

;this thread is void' repeatedly is one of my major concerns.


He could use something more appropriate like I do not endorse this thread as one that I can play in or include as one in my timeline.

Again, then it would help to actually link the posts you are referring to.

Out of curiosity, why do you care if he wants to continue playing in the old threads. What difference does it make to you if he wishes to carry out that game while you branch off in whatever direction?

Because both mine and Ramissle’s thread are the same. I just reposted, so we could edit the first post of the thread.

Is there simply "not enough room in this town for the two of [you]"?

Well, not in . Because a lot of people don’t want ICCD around. The reason for that is his godmodding. I.E. Using 70 of his pop as his armed forces.

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1. Either you play in the threads you post in, and/or you don't declare a thread over without consulting the other people using the thread.

There is only one thread for Irathria that is official, the one I reposted so we can edit the first post. Your thread with the fall of Ramissle is a one-sided RP. You know my reasons why it is one sided and unfair for the others. Just read some of your IC and OOC post in the that thread.

2. The only way we are going to be in a common Irathria is if you continue the timeline without changing the territorial political map without consulting first with the people involved.

At that time, you are not part of Irathria anymore because of your armed forces. Which was 70% of your pop.

3. You alone can choose to recognize something as being legitimate or not but you cannot force your opinion on other people.

Not going to answer you on that because I’m sick of repeating myself to you.

4. If someone requests you not spam their thread, you don't spam their thread.

Sorry I have to say this. Only, I repeat, only one of those three threads is yours. The other two are Ramissl’s threads.

Can you understand or agree to this. If so why not just rejoin the original threads. If a new thread is required start one; however, obviously you are blatantly trying to offend/flame and exclude me by changing my provincial and territorial maps (and only mine) without even asking if I am ok with it first.

At that time, you were not part of ICCD. Plus, no else said anything about those erased islands. Nobody cared. It make the map look better IMO. Cleared up a good piece of the sea.

Don't go around saying what is allowable for threads I start, plain and simple. If you have an issue ignore them and start your own, but trying to get threads that arn't your locked or killed, in my opinion isn't appropriate behavior.

Not going to repeat myself, it is getting old. Your thread about ism Ramissle is void because of the unfair RP you are doing.

For someone with 'only' dyslecsia and not outright traumatic brain damage I would think he clearly knows what he is doing.

I know what I’m doing. Stating those thread as void because they are that.

Hi I see what you mean, although in effect it is the accumulation of posts by him that has resulted I'll start posting the posts from each thread

1st link (note transylvania does not 'head' or lead irathria (atleast the original one)
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10916105&postcount=20
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10916550&postcount=22
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10921948&postcount=25

FYI, nobody leads Irathria anymore. Like I have said many times. There is not one leader of Irathria, there are many leaders.

Hi some more threads


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10928732&postcount=178 (this post is a slanted lie) only 130 million entered and only 100 million originally... the guy is spreading lies. then he goes on this big god mode thing bringing it back up repeatedly only a couple days later to confirm oh it wasn't a godmode afterall... then he brings it back up saying I'm godmoding. Which I'm not as I throughougly explained with many posts. The guy is simply deluded and goes on not understanding anything I write.


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10929316&postcount=182 (demonstrates his attempt to hijack and close down the thread without consulting others, atleast me.)


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10932030&postcount=194 (the point he now declares this thread void)



there are a bunch of others I'll post as I find them... however to fully understand you have to go through a few pages to understand what he did.

FYI, nobody leads Irathria anymore. Like I have said many times. There is not one leader of Irathria, there are many leaders.


then shut up about declaring threads void.

all I know is you havn't consulted me and 3/4th of my territories including an island chain dispapeared in your neo irathria.. without consulting me.

AND you gave a province of mine to another player without consulting me.

Because both mine and Ramissle’s thread are the same. I just reposted, so we could edit the first post of the thread.



Well, not in . Because a lot of people don’t want ICCD around. The reason for that is his godmodding. I.E. Using 70 of his pop as his armed forces.

Okay, so you are harrassing him because you don't want him around. I could be wrong, but I don't think you're allowed to do that. He's clearly asked that you avoid his threads and offered to avoid yours. If you don't want him around that seems like the ideal solution. If you try to harass him off the site, I suspect it's you that's going to have a problem.

Your reasoning doesn't seem to justify your claim. Again, that's just me, but it seemed like this is easily solved by avoiding one another. He seems willing to do so. You don't have to save people from him. If they don't want him around as you claim they'll avoid his threads or simply not reply to him. It's not like you're having a debate and there's some fear that people might think his dangerous position is correct.

Knock off this incessant bickering right now.

I've skimmed this topic without clicking any of the links, and I haven't seen anyone reporting any broken rules. Irritation with a player accused of godmodding, yes, but that's not against the rules of this site, just against common RP etiquette.

NS mods do not regulate roleplay. If you don't like somebody, don't play with them. If you want to close your threads, do so at the start. Posting without permission in a closed thread we can address, though there are rarely sanctions.

I'm going to leave this thread unlocked in case a mod more familiar with RP wants to make a ruling. If the bickering resumes, expect warnings and/or forumbans to be issued. Is that clear?

I was going to say something to Jocabia, not ICCD, but Frisbeeteria said to knock it off. Frisbeeteria is a mod, so I will TM you Jocabia.

I have had enough of this. ICCD is the one flaming me.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10934100&postcount=15 Saying that I only am spreading lies.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10934161&postcount=199 Looks like a flame bait to me.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10934229&postcount=200 The IQ part.

I already have the a$$ linked.

See the thing is I have the feeling you arn't completely retarded, however this underhanded out of character action to remove me is completely stupid. I wouldn't like to play with a person like you anyway.

Well perhaps no one else said anything about it because it wasn't their territory if I suddently sunk half of corpsac or no endorse you think they would be like 'oh that is so great' sink more of my land... I think not.

We'll like I said for you to think something is something for yourself is fine, but don't derail other peoples posts.

As for the switch over, congrats on your hijack, and I have no desire to play with you regardless. People that don't feel like an intelligent and enjoyable RP I am happy to see them go. So BY NOW STOP INTERFERING WITH MY THREADS AND POSTS.

I have had enough of this. ICCD is the one flaming me.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10934100&postcount=15 Saying that I only am spreading lies.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10934161&postcount=199 Looks like a flame bait to me.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10934229&postcount=200 The IQ part.

I already have the a$$ linked.


If it wasn't true I wouldn't say it. Your fabricated attempt to remove me shows you to be not only stupid but deeply issued. If you don't feel like RPing with me DONT. You don't need to be pathetic and make a flame and generally be stupid. As far as politics.. anyone that can be lead by a moron I am happy to see gone.

I'm not trying to be offensive, I mean the language literally, not 'offensively'.

For any mods or otherwise I mean no offense against this person it is just how I see the situation.

Just stop posting because each of those post I can see flames. If you can't say anything to me without flaming then don't post.

This could be see as a flame bait or threat but I don’t really care. ICD, just to tell you. If you said any of that to me in my face, you will be on your back looking up at the sky and asking yourself “What the Hell just happened?”

What part of "stop this incessant bickering" did you not understand?

The Transylvania and Intracircumcordei, 24-hour forumban.

Had 24 hours to think about it. I’m done with trying to talk to ICCD. I’m putting everything in the hands of Ramissle (I hope he answers my TM) and in the hands of the mods.