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Nation deleated.

Eutrusca
19-03-2006, 16:03
May I know why one of my nations, Militant Sexperts, was deleated? It's been around for quite awhile, so I don't know what could have been wrong with it. Can you advise? :(
Tweedlesburg
19-03-2006, 16:15
I'm not sure, but it could easily have been that you just forgot it for too long. Are you sure you did your issues recently enough?
Eutrusca
19-03-2006, 17:16
I'm not sure, but it could easily have been that you just forgot it for too long. Are you sure you did your issues recently enough?
Yesterday, when I decided all the issues for all of my nations. :(

[ weeps softly ]
Draconis Nightcrawlis
19-03-2006, 17:28
Couldn't be someone taking offence to it having sex in the name could it? What did you have as currancy, animal and motto. I'm sure they just edit those though.
Heron-Marked Warriors
19-03-2006, 21:05
What did you have as currancy, animal and motto. I'm sure they just edit those though.

I don't think they do. I think a violation in one of those gets you deleted.
Socialist Whittier
19-03-2006, 21:35
Couldn't be someone taking offence to it having sex in the name could it? What did you have as currancy, animal and motto. I'm sure they just edit those though.
They change to a blank or a message that says "get new currency, motto, or animal". And you at the same time you get a warning that counts as a final warning. Unless you have had previous mischief with that nation. Then it just gets deated.
They base it on intent. I wouldn't try to play innocent if you really intended to cause offense or anything like that cause the Mods have foolproof ways of determining the guilty from the innocent. Well, almost foolproof.
Complex psychological evaluations. oooh. I think I just invented a mod conspiracy theory. :cool:
Actually I think they look at your history of such offenses. In the case of my other nation, NakedTeenageGirls, they allowed it cause of the intent. The nation was a joke nation. But they did make me change the currency and animal. But then it became obscene and got deleted when I used it to create a thread rp with the word rapist in the title. They don't give you any slack when you talk about rape. That's why I didn't bother mounting much of a request to get it back. Cause I reviewed their previous decisions, that you can find in the mod forum archive. After I read the one about the use of the word rape in a thread, I already knew there was no chance I would get NTG back. There were other issues of which I was unaware.
For example, I learned from it that you can use pics of real people to depict fictional characters as long as the fictional characters are not rapists or anything like that. When I used NTG to create a thread called "Rapist on the Loose" the nation name automatically became illegal and was thus justifiably deleted. Unfortunately so was my main nation.
I'll have to remember that stuff in the future.
Eutrusca
19-03-2006, 22:11
They change to a blank or a message that says "get new currency, motto, or animal". And you at the same time you get a warning that counts as a final warning. Unless you have had previous mischief with that nation. Then it just gets deated.
They base it on intent. I wouldn't try to play innocent if you really intended to cause offense or anything like that cause the Mods have foolproof ways of determining the guilty from the innocent. Well, almost foolproof.
Complex psychological evaluations. oooh. I think I just invented a mod conspiracy theory. :cool:
Actually I think they look at your history of such offenses. In the case of my other nation, NakedTeenageGirls, they allowed it cause of the intent. The nation was a joke nation. But they did make me change the currency and animal. But then it became obscene and got deleted when I used it to create a thread rp with the word rapist in the title. They don't give you any slack when you talk about rape. That's why I didn't bother mounting much of a request to get it back. Cause I reviewed their previous decisions, that you can find in the mod forum archive. After I read the one about the use of the word rape in a thread, I already knew there was no chance I would get NTG back. There were other issues of which I was unaware.
For example, I learned from it that you can use pics of real people to depict fictional characters as long as the fictional characters are not rapists or anything like that. When I used NTG to create a thread called "Rapist on the Loose" the nation name automatically became illegal and was thus justifiably deleted. Unfortunately so was my main nation.
I'll have to remember that stuff in the future.
Well, this was with no warning or anything. This morning I tried to log onto it and was informed by the page that it no longer existed.

The name was "Militant Sexperts." The national animal was the Mink. And the currency was the BIG O. I didn't RP with it, so that's right out. And the flag was just a guy kissing a girl's ear. Nothing off-color or obscene about it.

I have no idea why it would have been deleated ... none. :(
Socialist Whittier
19-03-2006, 22:33
Well, this was with no warning or anything. This morning I tried to log onto it and was informed by the page that it no longer existed.

The name was "Militant Sexperts." The national animal was the Mink. And the currency was the BIG O. I didn't RP with it, so that's right out. And the flag was just a guy kissing a girl's ear. Nothing off-color or obscene about it.

I have no idea why it would have been deleated ... none. :(
I rarely rpd with mine too. This was actually the first rp I had with it cause I wanted to start giving my other nations some character instead of just using Whittier all the time. Do something different.
A mod will come around and look at it. They're pretty good at fixing stuff like this if it was a nonoffense deletion. They seem to take some kind of pride in resurrecting nations that can be resurrected. It was like they were competing to see who could restore the most nations or something.
Eutrusca
20-03-2006, 04:34
I rarely rpd with mine too. This was actually the first rp I had with it cause I wanted to start giving my other nations some character instead of just using Whittier all the time. Do something different.
A mod will come around and look at it. They're pretty good at fixing stuff like this if it was a nonoffense deletion. They seem to take some kind of pride in resurrecting nations that can be resurrected. It was like they were competing to see who could restore the most nations or something.
Heh! Yeah. They get $50 US for every nation they resurrect. :D
Eutrusca
20-03-2006, 16:51
Won't someone please, please, please advise me on why my nation was deleated? I'm not going to raise hell because it was, I would just like to know why. :(
Tactical Grace
20-03-2006, 18:30
I asked a couple of days ago and no-one had any idea. Someone will do a check when they have time.
Euroslavia
20-03-2006, 19:35
I am not the moderator who dealt with this case.

Militant Sexperts was deleted for an inappropriate nation name combined with bad fields and a bad flag.
Jocabia
20-03-2006, 21:04
I don't want to spark a giant discussion about this or anything, but isn't the line supposed to be at PG-13. Assuming what Eut said is true about the fields and flag, I don't see how any of that separately or in combination could be seen to even toe the line of PG-13 or its equivalent. Are you sure there wasn't a misunderstanding here?
Eutrusca
20-03-2006, 22:26
I was just curious as to why it was deleated. I can see where someone with an active imagination or a pudish state of mind ( or both ) might find it objectionable.

Nation name: Militant Sexperts.

Nation Animal: Mink

National Currency: BIG-O

National Flag: A young man kissing a young girl's ear. She appears to be enjoying it.
Eutrusca
21-03-2006, 00:12
I am not the moderator who dealt with this case.

Militant Sexperts was deleted for an inappropriate nation name combined with bad fields and a bad flag.
Sorry, but somehow allowing an avowed pedophile to continue having a nation doesn't square with deleating mine for what seem to me to be pretty innocuous things.
Katganistan
21-03-2006, 00:38
I was just curious as to why it was deleated. I can see where someone with an active imagination or a pudish state of mind ( or both ) might find it objectionable.

Nation name: Militant Sexperts.

Nation Animal: Mink

National Currency: BIG-O

National Flag: A young man kissing a young girl's ear. She appears to be enjoying it.

LOL, is that what you called that flag? Seemed to me it was a young blonde with eyes shut, her head thrown back, mouth open and appearing to be lifted from a porn magazine or movie, with the guy behind her, possibly kissing her ear.

And the big-o referred to....?

And of course, it's a coincidence that mink is also slang for female genitals?

The name alone wouldn't have done it. The aggregate of all of them added up to something that was reported as inappropriate.
Eutrusca
21-03-2006, 00:44
LOL, is that what you called that flag? Seemed to me it was a young blonde with eyes shut, her head thrown back, mouth open and appearing to be lifted from a porn magazine or movie, with the guy behind her, possibly kissing her ear.

And the big-o referred to....?

And of course, it's a coincidence that mink is also slang for female genitals?

The name alone wouldn't have done it. The aggregate of all of them added up to something that was reported as inappropriate.
ROFLMAO! Mink is really slang for that? I've never heard that before. The way it was intended was as in "screw like a mink." :D

Ok. I understand. Sorry to have inconvenienced whomever it was that reported me. Thanks for the explanation.
Katganistan
21-03-2006, 00:52
ROFLMAO! Mink is really slang for that? I've never heard that before. The way it was intended was as in "screw like a mink." :D.

Honest, Eut. ;) Look it up in urbandictionary.com.

Other meanings too, but.... well, all together....
Emperor Matthuis
21-03-2006, 20:30
ROFLMAO! Mink is really slang for that? I've never heard that before. The way it was intended was as in "screw like a mink." :D

Ok. I understand. Sorry to have inconvenienced whomever it was that reported me. Thanks for the explanation.


I reported it on a list of offensive nations (in my view) that I made a few days ago because I found it offensive.
I Love Oranges
21-03-2006, 20:37
I reported it on a list of offensive nations (in my view) that I made a few days ago because I found it offensive.

did you also report feckface?
Emperor Matthuis
21-03-2006, 21:13
did you also report feckface?


No I'm not that strict. However there were a few names with 'Fecking' on the list but their names were combined with something else that made the name rude in my opinion.
Eutrusca
22-03-2006, 05:33
I reported it on a list of offensive nations (in my view) that I made a few days ago because I found it offensive.
Well ain't you special!

At least you have the courage to admit to it. Thanks for that. :)
Eutrusca
22-03-2006, 05:34
Honest, Eut. ;) Look it up in urbandictionary.com.

Other meanings too, but.... well, all together....
S'ok, Katty. Still luv ya. :fluffle:
Socialist Whittier
22-03-2006, 14:00
Honest, Eut. ;) Look it up in urbandictionary.com.

Other meanings too, but.... well, all together....
I just checked that site out. You guys actually use that place to define words?
I noticed that that particular definition for mink seemed to have a more people disagreeing than agreeing.
It also seems that the definitions are whatever any old guy comes along and says they are.
I could put on there that trouser means a man's genitals. Would that mean that that is the official definition of trouser?

I thought the mods used more credible sources.
Crazy girl
22-03-2006, 14:12
I think Kat has a better, perfect source to verify these words and meanings :p
Grave_n_idle
22-03-2006, 16:35
I reported it on a list of offensive nations (in my view) that I made a few days ago because I found it offensive.

I'm just amazed that someone (not a Mod, right?) spends their time looking for nation names/flags/descriptions to put on a 'blacklist'....
I V Stalin
22-03-2006, 16:40
I reported it on a list of offensive nations (in my view) that I made a few days ago because I found it offensive.
Don't suppose W*nkhands was on there was it? That was one of mine...I wasn't so bothered about it being deleted (it wasn't going where I wanted, and I couldn't be bothered to take the time to get it back), but there's plenty of other nations out there with 'w*nk' in the name.
Emperor Matthuis
22-03-2006, 17:58
I'm just amazed that someone (not a Mod, right?) spends their time looking for nation names/flags/descriptions to put on a 'blacklist'....


It took me like 20 minutes, I just typed in a few swear words on the world page. It just annoyed me when I saw nations with names that are offensive, so one day last week I put a list of 20 or nations together and reported them. I dunno whether your nation was on there.
Katganistan
23-03-2006, 03:31
I just checked that site out. You guys actually use that place to define words?
I noticed that that particular definition for mink seemed to have a more people disagreeing than agreeing.
It also seems that the definitions are whatever any old guy comes along and says they are.
I could put on there that trouser means a man's genitals. Would that mean that that is the official definition of trouser?

I thought the mods used more credible sources.

And yet, I've heard it before -- and Eut himself stated he meant "screwing like a mink".

Really, now -- show a wee bit of common sense.
Laerod
23-03-2006, 08:03
I'm just amazed that someone (not a Mod, right?) spends their time looking for nation names/flags/descriptions to put on a 'blacklist'....Why? I do it too when nothing goes on in General and I have no other opportunity to distract myself.
OceanDrive2
24-03-2006, 02:16
I just typed in a few swear words on the world page. It just annoyed me when I saw nations with names that are offensive, so one day last week I put a list of 20 or nations together and reported them. I dunno whether your nation was on there.LOL.. Could you share with us.. I mean the List.. I really like to see that. :D
Emperor Matthuis
24-03-2006, 18:20
LOL.. Could you share with us.. I mean the List.. I really like to see that. :D

I made the list straight into the FAQ so I don't have any of them saved, but nations like:

Extreme Penis
Militant Sexperts
Vagina crabs (This nation I just found)


I really can't remember the rest.
Cluichstan
24-03-2006, 19:59
I made the list straight into the FAQ so I don't have any of them saved, but nations like:

Extreme Penis
Militant Sexperts
Vagina crabs (This nation I just found)


I really can't remember the rest.

You've got far too much time on your hands. :rolleyes:
Emperor Matthuis
24-03-2006, 20:21
You've got far too much time on your hands. :rolleyes:

It took me like 20 minutes

I was just checking out the forums and at the same time typed in some swear words on the world page.

I fail to see how this is sad.
Pacific and Atlantic
24-03-2006, 20:45
Someone has guessed the correct password of my fairly old nation 'The Deep Tunnels'. I am devastated, can a moderator intervene please!!!!!!!
Skinny87
24-03-2006, 21:46
I was just checking out the forums and at the same time typed in some swear words on the world page.

I fail to see how this is sad.

What, actively searching for nations with naughty or offensive names? Yeah, that's a sad activity. If you report one when you see it, okay. But actively searching seems to me like a sign that you have too much time on your hands.
Militia Enforced State
25-03-2006, 05:04
Someone has guessed the correct password of my fairly old nation 'The Deep Tunnels'. I am devastated, can a moderator intervene please!!!!!!!

Unless you create a new thread, no one's going to help you on this issue P&A. At least, they shouldn't...
Emperor Matthuis
25-03-2006, 12:57
Okay I'm just going to clear this matter up for the final time. I have a good social life with plenty of friends and I enjoy playing lots of sports and go out frequently.

However one day last week (Monday?), I got annoyed when I saw a load of stupid n00bs creating offensive nations in The East Pacific (my home region). So I decided to create a list of nations with offensive names and I typed in a few swear words on the world page and then pasted them into a getting help report. This took me about 20 minutes, although I was checking two of the regions I'm founder of, as well as some forums at the same time.

So I hope this clears up the matter and I do not have too much time on my hands.
Quaon
25-03-2006, 13:29
I agree that the nation should have been deleted, but Eut's right. How can you let a guy who has admitted (in graphic detail) that he was a pedophile remain on the site? If I recall correctly, it is a crime in most countries, as well as against UN law (I'm not sure about the UN one). What should be happening is that his IP address is logged and transmitted to his local police dept. (if that can be found).
Erastide
25-03-2006, 15:38
Someone has guessed the correct password of my fairly old nation 'The Deep Tunnels'. I am devastated, can a moderator intervene please!!!!!!!
Have you tried requesting another password to your email? Or changing your password if they didn't change the password. Either way, you should report this on the Getting Help (http://www.nationstates.net/69680/page=help) page.

I agree that the nation should have been deleted, but Eut's right. How can you let a guy who has admitted (in graphic detail) that he was a pedophile remain on the site? If I recall correctly, it is a crime in most countries, as well as against UN law (I'm not sure about the UN one). What should be happening is that his IP address is logged and transmitted to his local police dept. (if that can be found).
To the best of my knowledge, noone has talked about the actual *act* of committing pedophilia. Any more questions on that should have been answered by this post. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10604061&postcount=14)

And since everyone in this thread has long received their answers, this is getting locked.