NationStates Jolt Archive


Flaming and personal attacks.

Dakini
04-01-2006, 05:17
Ocean Drive has been making a couple attacks on me and putting words in my mouth in a way that is not all too friendly. I'm wondering if these:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10202433&postcount=103
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10202472&postcount=106

are in violation of the board rules. (He made some other comments the other day that I think are iffy too, I can dig those up as well)
[NS]Simonist
04-01-2006, 20:53
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10205442&postcount=7

At it even when Dakini is nowhere to be seen.
OceanDrive3
04-01-2006, 20:59
This other poster has an opinion about this..

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10198101&postcount=233

Says the person who says Jesus did not exist. Did you expect an asinine statement like that to not bring out bad feelings toward you? The very definintion of trolling.
OceanDrive3
04-01-2006, 21:04
putting words in my mouth in a way that is not all too friendly. I'm wondering if these:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10202433&postcount=103
"is going to say"...

is not like "she says"..

What I mean to say is that by "definition your attacks are on all non-contemporary Faiths... "

and I am going to add a Disclaimer to that post... just in case.. someone does not get the "is going to say.."
[NS]Simonist
04-01-2006, 21:09
This other poster has an opinion about this..

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10198101&postcount=233
The issue with Sal Y Limon has, I believe, already been taken up earlier in the week. Furthermore, this thread is more to the point of Dakini's complaints about you. Saying "But I wasn't the only one who may have been misbehaving!" isn't a very good defense.

I'd suggest it would be a better idea to stop putting words in Dakini's mouth when he's not there (or, in fact, at all), especially in the face of those who aren't a part of your little bickering match, rather than trying to justify it with somebody else's actions. 'Course, being not a moderator and not ever caring to be one, you don't even have to take my advice.
OceanDrive3
04-01-2006, 21:12
"is going to say"...

is not like "she says"..

What I mean to say is that by "definition your attacks are on all non-contemporary Faiths... "

and I am going to add a Disclaimer to that post... just in case.. someone does not get the "is going to say.."Fixed... I made double sure..all understands the sense of my "... is going to say..."
Steel Butterfly
04-01-2006, 21:19
Just wondering, when Dakini said Jesus did not exist, did he in any way attempt to or actually back up his claim. While the debate rages on if Jesus was in fact the son of god or some sort of Messiah among the different religions, most, along with most historians, tend to agree that a man named Jesus did exist and that he was put to death in a way similar to that described in the bible (minus the god-stuff).

My point is, if Dakini tried to defend his opinion in a civilized and educated manenr, right or wrong regardless, its really not trolling. However, if he merely flaunted Scientology (...no comment...) theology while rambling on about how Jesus isn't real, then yes, that could be seen as trolling.

As per Ocean Drive, while what he's been saying could be interpreted perhaps as flamebait, in my opinion, it doesn't seem that bad. Lawyers often time tell the jury what the other side is "trying to get them to think." Ocean Drive could be using a similar tactic to try to get other posters to agree with him and support him in the arguement, or he could just be making fun of Dakini.

Lastly, as [NS]Simonist said, the whole "well he did it too" defense is probably one of the weakest, if not an admission of guilt in itself. It's also immature, trying to bring others down with you. If you did something considered wrong, either man up to it or fight it...don't try to drag others into the middle of the situation.

Regardless, I'm sure a mod will come along shortly and sort this out. Just giving some food for thought.

As always,

NOT A MOD
Dakini
04-01-2006, 23:42
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10205585&postcount=339
Again, he's made a false claim.

I never promoted scientology, personally, I think it's a big pile of poor science fiction.

And furthermore, I haven't been arguing that Jesus didn't exist (it's impossible to prove a negative) I have been arguing that there's no evidence he did, which is the point of that particular thread.

Furthermore, I didn't mention the other person because I responded to them and they haven't harassed me since.

Also, for future refrence, I'm a she.
Jocabia
05-01-2006, 17:25
Fixed... I made double sure..all understands the sense of my "... is going to say..."

How does further baiting help? Perhaps you should just let the mods address the issue instead of pressing further, no?
Haraki
05-01-2006, 18:57
I recommend Ocean Drive and possibly Dakini too stop posting in this thread until the issue has been addressed by a mod. Because Oceandrive seems determined to either prove his innocence and fix his posts or insult those who are here and flamebait them at the same time, I think both of you should stop posting before something gets said that's out of hand. A mod will see and address this, and then it'll be sorted out.