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"Some people claim that Bush is engaged in a war against Islam. The statements above support the idea that some forms of Islam are engaged in a war against civilization. Those forms of Islam must be wiped out by whatever means are most efficient. War, conquest, and cultural imperialism are effective tools against it. So are vigorous and merciless prosecution, punishment, and deportation."

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"It's important to make the distinction in order to prevent eliminating the good Muslims."

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"I prefer it to be done through targeted killings, precision bombing, and the occasional mafia-style exploding car. We might find it usefull to kidnap them from their nations of origin and use drugs and sleep deprivation to extract intel from them before we dispose of them."

"We need to infiltrate their organizations, exterminate their members, and find ways of keeping people from being seduced by their ideology."

In my opinion, this crosses the line. Hence my reporting it.

"Some people claim that Bush is engaged in a war against Islam. The statements above support the idea that some forms of Islam are engaged in a war against civilization. Those forms of Islam must be wiped out by whatever means are most efficient. War, conquest, and cultural imperialism are effective tools against it. So are vigorous and merciless prosecution, punishment, and deportation."

"It's important to make the distinction in order to prevent eliminating the good Muslims."

"I prefer it to be done through targeted killings, precision bombing, and the occasional mafia-style exploding car. We might find it usefull to kidnap them from their nations of origin and use drugs and sleep deprivation to extract intel from them before we dispose of them."

"We need to infiltrate their organizations, exterminate their members, and find ways of keeping people from being seduced by their ideology."

In my opinion, this crosses the line. Hence my reporting it.

I think, in my non-official opinion, that various parts of those quotes are acceptable and various parts aren't. I have trouble seeing how advocating the elimination of religious extremists and terrorists (muslim or not) crossing any line, just as I can't see how stating that steps must be taken to prevent the majority of peace loving muslims from being caught in the crossfire. Saying that we (or whomever) needs to infiltrate the terrorists and exterminate them, therefore saving millions of lives, isn't really bad.

That being said, the author seems to have some sort of fetish in regards to exactly how these otherwise necessary steps must be taken:

"War, conquest, and cultural imperialism are effective tools against it. So are vigorous and merciless prosecution, punishment, and deportation. I prefer it to be done through targeted killings, precision bombing, and the occasional mafia-style exploding car. We might find it usefull to kidnap them from their nations of origin and use drugs and sleep deprivation to extract intel from them before we dispose of them."

That's rather sociopathic...and inspires memories of a short austrian with a stupid hair-do and charlie-chaplan mustache.

Agitation does not become less agitatory just because the people agitated against are unpopular. So it really doesn't matter to me if the deaths called for are those of "good" Muslims or of "bad" Muslims - their deaths are still called for.

Up to the mods to decide if this is acceptable.

as a neutral bystander I would like to mention that these are not bad muslims the person in question is talking about, these are terrorists. Thousands of people have been asking for the death of those terrorists and if you had lost someone in a terrorist attack, you would probably do the same.
I prefer it to be done through ...
He is not trying to convince anyone that they should be killed, he just has his own opinion. Much like a jew would want to see all former members of the SS dead.

Well I gotta say I agree with Fass on this one because I believe in due process, not vigilante justice. A call to murder is a call to murder.

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Oh, come now! This thread is out of hand.

Well I gotta say I agree with Fass on this one because I believe in due process, not vigilante justice. A call to murder is a call to murder.

Just throwing this out there...but your personal beliefs on law enforcement don't really matter...at all...